Comments on: Carper’s No Good, Super Terrible, Completely Awful, New New New “Alternative” To The Public Option http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:37:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: BMcGarth http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60616 BMcGarth Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:25:54 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60616 So right.Look who showed up to speak to the Dems in the Senate yesterday about HCR. The same guy who now runs around getting fat donations for his foundation from the super wealth & Corporations.Yes, the same guy who in the 90's had no problem sending American manufacturing jobs overseas & who continued his predecessor's caress with Corporations, not even fighting to keep Glass-Steagall act in place to protect Americans. And he was invited to speak to Senate Dems by Harry Reid & Rahm Emanuel.So now, do you really expect anything worthwhile to come from the Senate ? I have always said Harry Reid's stance on HCR is bogus.It's a way to make folks think he his doing his mighty best to get a robust PO. And by the way ,he is up for re-election in 2010 in Nevada.The gullible will think Harry really fought for the PO but just didn't have the votes but if you re-elect him he will fix it.Same script Obama used in the GE,elect Obama Prez and he will fix FISA. If Reid is so into a Robust PO then why does Lieberman still command chairmanship of a committee.Lieberman says publicly he can't support such a bill. Once again we are being set up for the inevitable,Pie in our face.The only drama now it seems to me is how quickly will the so called "progressives" in the Senate get run over. So right.Look who showed up to speak to the Dems in the Senate yesterday about HCR.
The same guy who now runs around getting fat donations for his foundation from the super wealth & Corporations.Yes, the same guy who in the 90′s had no problem sending American manufacturing jobs overseas & who continued his predecessor’s caress with Corporations, not even fighting to keep Glass-Steagall act in place to protect Americans.

And he was invited to speak to Senate Dems by Harry Reid & Rahm Emanuel.So now, do you really expect anything worthwhile to come from the Senate ?

I have always said Harry Reid’s stance on HCR is bogus.It’s a way to make folks think he his doing his mighty best to get a robust PO.

And by the way ,he is up for re-election in 2010 in Nevada.The gullible will think Harry really fought for the PO but just didn’t have the votes but if you re-elect him he will fix it.Same script Obama used in the GE,elect Obama Prez and he will fix FISA.

If Reid is so into a Robust PO then why does Lieberman still command chairmanship of a committee.Lieberman says publicly he can’t support such a bill.

Once again we are being set up for the inevitable,Pie in our face.The only drama now it seems to me is how quickly will the so called “progressives” in the Senate get run over.

]]> By: Ann in AZ http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60603 Ann in AZ Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:00:16 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60603 David Dayen has a fresh <a href="http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/blackwater-bribed-iraqi-officials-after-nissour-square-massacre/" rel="nofollow">cross-post up</a>: “Blackwater Bribed Iraqi Officials After Nissour Square Massacre” David Dayen has a fresh cross-post up: “Blackwater Bribed Iraqi Officials After Nissour Square Massacre”

]]> By: mareada http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60602 mareada Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:23 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60602 Read the NYTimes about Maine's "health reform", its a mess and every issue occurs due to a compromise or capitulation to Anthem/BC/BS (though the article never comes right out and says it). All these bills make the same mistakes at a national level. Read the NYTimes about Maine’s “health reform”, its a mess and every issue occurs due to a compromise or capitulation to Anthem/BC/BS (though the article never comes right out and says it). All these bills make the same mistakes at a national level.

]]> By: TarheelDem http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60593 TarheelDem Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:46:00 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60593 What it really sounds like is the old non-profit Blue Cross/Blue Shield structure. What it really sounds like is the old non-profit Blue Cross/Blue Shield structure.

]]> By: Blub http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60590 Blub Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:36:51 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60590 I love it when conservadems negotiate with themselves by offering ever-worse compromises with each other... and in the end, their pointless self-negotiation doesn't convince a single rethug, or even trolls spawned under Connecticut bridges. I love it when conservadems negotiate with themselves by offering ever-worse compromises with each other… and in the end, their pointless self-negotiation doesn’t convince a single rethug, or even trolls spawned under Connecticut bridges.

]]> By: mikesong http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60589 mikesong Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:36:42 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60589 this is as dead as triggers. no way it gets 60 votes in the senate, or even 200 in the house. the opt-out public option will get passed in reconciliation. this is as dead as triggers. no way it gets 60 votes in the senate, or even 200 in the house. the opt-out public option will get passed in reconciliation.

]]> By: NAVDOC3rdMAR http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60588 NAVDOC3rdMAR Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:34:50 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60588 In honor of Veteran's Day. According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that "that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001."It's time for American Women to Stand-up/Speak-up for your full medical rights. Stop the rabid right-wing from restricting American womens medical choices. Call Congress and demand the "stupak-pitts amendment" be stripped from Health Care Reform. Also, demand that liebermann be stripped of his chairmanship of HSC and kicked out of the Caucus.Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score's the baucus plan at $829 Billion over a 10 year period, that is paid for. The CBO also states that it will lower the deficit by $80 Billion and it would be much lower if there was a public option.Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations. Time for publically funded elections. lieberman $12.6M, mcconnell $7.8M, baucus $7.7M, cornyn $6.7M, kyl $5.6M, grassley $5.4M, ensign $5.2M, conrad $5.1M, cantor $4.9M, nelson $4.9M, burr $4.8M, boehner $4.4M, hatch $4.4M, lincoln $4.1M, vitter $3.9M, carper $3.6M were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform. (Source: <a href="http://OpenSecrets.org" rel="nofollow">OpenSecrets.org</a>, Aug. 09)Follow the Money: <a href="http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a>Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!(Toll Free # House and Senate)1-866-311-3405Sign Single-Payer, Public Option and Health Care as a Civil Rights Petitions: <a href="http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a> <a href="http://www.americacantwait.com/TrueMajority" rel="nofollow">Link</a> <a href="http://countdowntohealthcare.com/#" rel="nofollow">Link</a> <a href="http://healthcare.kucinich.us/petition/" rel="nofollow">kucinichpetition</a> Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.SEMPER FI! In honor of Veteran’s Day. According to a study released by the Harvard Medical School, 2,266 veterans under the age of 65 died last year as a result of not having health insurance. Researchers emphasize that “that figure is more than 14 times the number of deaths (155) suffered by U.S. troops in Afghanistan in 2008, and more than twice as many as have died (911 as of Oct. 31) since the war began in 2001.”It’s time for American Women to Stand-up/Speak-up for your full medical rights. Stop the rabid right-wing from restricting American womens medical choices. Call Congress and demand the “stupak-pitts amendment” be stripped from Health Care Reform. Also, demand that liebermann be stripped of his chairmanship of HSC and kicked out of the Caucus.Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score’s the baucus plan at $829 Billion over a 10 year period, that is paid for. The CBO also states that it will lower the deficit by $80 Billion and it would be much lower if there was a public option.Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations. Time for publically funded elections. lieberman $12.6M, mcconnell $7.8M, baucus $7.7M, cornyn $6.7M, kyl $5.6M, grassley $5.4M, ensign $5.2M, conrad $5.1M, cantor $4.9M, nelson $4.9M, burr $4.8M, boehner $4.4M, hatch $4.4M, lincoln $4.1M, vitter $3.9M, carper $3.6M were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform. (Source: OpenSecrets.org, Aug. 09)Follow the Money: LinkCall Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!(Toll Free # House and Senate)1-866-311-3405Sign Single-Payer, Public Option and Health Care as a Civil Rights Petitions: Link Link Link kucinichpetition Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.SEMPER FI!

]]> By: Twain http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60560 Twain Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:07:14 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60560 It would be just great if no one in the Congress had a new idea. They just get worse and sillier. Can't believe some of these people even got elected. It would be just great if no one in the Congress had a new idea. They just get worse and sillier. Can’t believe some of these people even got elected.

]]> By: Beerfart Liberal http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60558 Beerfart Liberal Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:06:15 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60558 OK. I started to read it and got to "trigger" and had bile or something in my throat. I'll have to take this post in small bites. OK. I started to read it and got to “trigger” and had bile or something in my throat. I’ll have to take this post in small bites.

]]> By: Beerfart Liberal http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/11/carpers-no-good-super-terrible-completely-awful-new-new-new-%e2%80%9calternative%e2%80%9d-to-the-public-option/#comment-60553 Beerfart Liberal Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:04:38 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4955#comment-60553 If any of this shit being kicked around passes I still get my insurance through my employer. same. If I lose my job, I'm fucked. same. {sigh}. oh, man. i'm tired. If any of this shit being kicked around passes I still get my insurance through my employer. same. If I lose my job, I’m fucked. same.

{sigh}. oh, man. i’m tired.

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