Comments on: Mark Warner: The Current Health Care System Is Falling Apart, But I Don’t Have Any Real Solutions

By: sisterkenney

sisterkenney — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:12:18 +0000

Yes, let the rethugs take credit for killing the so-called “HCR”. Why cannot we separate the idea of “health insurance” from “health care”? Oh yeah, it’s the ownership of the Healthcare Corps by Wall Street, and their honeypots for politicians.

By: Mason

Mason — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:04:36 +0000

Y’know, I’m starting to think it might be a smart tactic for Dems to “let” the Republicans filibuster and thereby block health care “reform.” Then it will be on THEIR plate — the Party of NO — that nothing happened.

I think you’ve identified a brilliant strategy and I support it.

By: cassiodorus

cassiodorus — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:42:07 +0000

Y’know, I’m starting to think it might be a smart tactic for Dems to “let” the Republicans filibuster and thereby block health care “reform.” Then it will be on THEIR plate — the Party of NO — that nothing happened.

Yeah, that’ll work.

By: bailey2739

bailey2739 — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:55:43 +0000

Wonderful job, Jon, to the point & VERY well stated!

By: Mauimom

Mauimom — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:21:51 +0000

Anyone knows if Lieberman was at the Clinton-Dem Senate meeting today ?

And if he was Why was he invited ? He is not a Dem and he is planning to filibuster the Dem agenda

Y’know, I’m starting to think it might be a smart tactic for Dems to “let” the Republicans filibuster and thereby block health care “reform.” Then it will be on THEIR plate — the Party of NO — that nothing happened.

To me this is a lot more attractive than Dems getting saddled with this ineffective, piece of crap [and likely to get more so by the time the Senate gets through with it] bill and its consequences: mandates, continued sky-rocketing of premiums, no effective date until 2013, no public option or other cost controllers, extending PhARMA’s drug patent robbery — did I miss anything?

By: Mauimom

Mauimom — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:15:18 +0000

Thanks OFG. That’s exactly what I would have said.

Let this fucking piece of crap fail.

By: cassiodorus

cassiodorus — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:53:59 +0000

Oh, they all understand that, stephhunter. What they are looking for is a specifically NEOLIBERAL health insurance policy, one which privatizes profits while collectivizing costs.

By: stephhunter

stephhunter — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:45:54 +0000

Does Warner not understand that the public option, if robust, would help drive down costs? Come on, Mark, it’s not that complex. It’s already working in Ohio and it could easily be expanded to cover more and more. http://cli.gs/23yYaM/

By: cbl2

cbl2 — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:04:13 +0000

the late great Steve Gilliard showed no mercy to Kos over Warner

By: LKN2

LKN2 — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:02:26 +0000

I agree – why prop up a disfunctional system? In truth, the system was headed for immenent collapse (a good thing!), which will not happen if the health care bill passes. Combine the loss of health insurance due to joblessness with the number of companies who are curtailing benefits due to steep insurance price increases, and you have fewer customers for the insurance companies. The need for universal health care would soon become obvious to all. This bill is really a bail-out of our existing system. Also, we will likely normalize relations with Cuba soon. Access to cheap medical care close to our borders would be a threat to hospitals and doctors, who would rather have universal care (provided by them) than see their customers drift offshore.