The Washington Times has a story about Mark Warner addressing one of the biggest unspoken problems in the health care reform debate.
“I wish the president would have started the debate by explaining to the American people that our current health care system is not financially sustainable, for even another decade,” Mr. Warner said. “Driving down health care costs should have been the focus of the debate.”
Warner is completely correct our current system is completely unsustainable and will not survive another decade if it continues in the same manner it has been. The current reform proposals will make some important steps which should help slow the exploding growth rate, but they are too little too late. The problem is that there is not the political will for real cost-cutting reform at this time. Warner himself is as guilty as anyone on that matter. He claims to see the train heading for the cliff, but he has yet to endorse the kind of radical reform necessary to reduce cost.
Has Warner endorsed single payer? Did he come out strongly in support of a public option tied to Medicare rates on the new exchange, which would save the federal government $110 billion? Did he even go a step farther and demand a Medicare-like public option be available to all individuals and business. A move that would drive premiums down and bring in hundreds of billions in taxes because of increased wages? Has he endorsed a single provider rate setting mechanism like Switzerland, Belgium, France, etc., which could cut over 30% of the cost of our health care? Does he support a massive reform of the pharmaceutical industry which would save the nation hundreds of billions by bringing our prices in line with the rest of the world?
Sadly, the answer to all of these questions is no. As much as he claims to be disappointed that Obama is not pushing the issue of cost containment, Warner is equally unwilling to spend the political capital to champion ideas which have a proven track record around the world.
This is the real unspoken issue in the health care reform battle. Smart people, officials like Warner, in very safe seats, see the collapse of our system coming, but are still afraid t champion smart, proven, but never-the-less radical solutions.
What this means is the real reform will not happen for several more years, until the system is just about to or has already collapsed. That is why smart progressive are fighting so hard for what appears to be a small public option. It is not about what the public option will be right away, it is about getting the correct infrastructure in place when things really start coming apart.
Our dysfunctional political system will not allow us to make the large but necessary moves to stop the impending disaster. The best progressives can do is make sure that when the massive skyscraper that is health care system comes down, it is at least a controlled, inward demolition. The public option could be the foundation for a system where the government insures everyone has access to quality affordable care. Without the public option in place, the system could easily collapse into a massive corporate welfare program. A system where private insurance companies are given huge government subsidies to “reduce cost” in the only way they have so far, with massive denial of care.
Reform will not save our current system, because none of the players involved are willing to consider the drastic changes that could save it. That is why Sen. Wyden is fighting for his completely open exchange, Cantwell is promoting her “basic health plan“, Conrad is defending his co-ops, the insruance companies are fighting to kill a public option competitor, and progressives are fighting tooth and nail to get a real national public option. What this health care fight is really about is getting the alternative structure you want ready to replace our current system when it does inventiably breakdown.





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Um, then… uh… why aren’t we mobilizing for something that will actually work? Did we get too caught up in the politics, and not entrenched enough in actual solutions?
So those progressives among us (like me) that oppose this bill and want to see it defeated are dumb? Is that the gyst of this statement?
Thanks a lot. You have a nice day too.
The politicians took single payer off the table before we ever got started in the debate. We need to get rid of these corporate puppet whores and get some representation that will actually do what they are elected to do.
That’s as good a synopsis as I’ll ever read.
And if we had a functional system, it would provide more jobs – not necessarily high-wage, but certainly ‘livable’. Particularly given an aging demographic.
So health care reform is actually:
1. More health bang per dollar spent.
2. A jobs bill.
3. A health improvement bill – by changing toward ‘wellness’ incentives and rewards.
4. A way to address out-of-control government budgets (both for government employees, as well as for Medicare and Medicaid budgets).
Win, win, win, win.
But really, we should let Bart Stupak screw it all up with abortion amendments. And do not look ‘behind the curtain’ to see the gleeful champagne-popping among healthCo lobbyists…
At yKos One, they couldn’t give the Warner ‘08 t-shirts away fast enough.
I use them to wax my car.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Jon Walker and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“What this healthcare fight is really about is getting the alternative structure you want ready to replace our current system when it does break down.”
No, Citizen Walker, the system is already irreparably broken but just hasn’t collapsed yet and the “masters of the economic universe” can’t let it go until they have drained every drop of equity that working people have left. It is my opinion that the ponzi scheme that is our health insurance industry is floating the stock market at the moment and when it finally goes, the false bottom we have created with the bailouts will go with it.
No one wants to take responsibility for what is goin’ to happen to the entire economy when the health insurance industry goes…so all the players are dancin’ a kabuki rythmn pretendin that they’re tryin ta do sumpthin about it.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER!!
I agree with much of this article. But, quite honestly, I have been hearing many politicians since the beginning of this process making the point that the status quo is not an option as the current system is unsustainable. Obama has been saying all along that healthcare will bankrupt the country if we do nothing.
It’s not the lack of SAYING these things that has been the problem. It’s the lack of a spine to stand up for, demand and not cave to the Blue Dogs on the actual reforms that are needed.
Warner has apparently been asleep. Obama has repeated described the cost of the current system as unsustainable and warned that doing nothing was not possible, that it would pose unsustainable problems for the federal budget and for the economy as a whole.
Along with gutting Roe v. Wade through the back door with the C Street Family’s anti-abortion Amendment engineered by long-time member Congressman Stupak, the disgusting Democrats also criminalized non-compliance with the mandate by making it a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison.
If this is true, we must
Kill health reform now, or there will be blood in the streets.
Seems to me that bipartisan approach was a great big failure. I’m cool with bipartisan if and when we’re dealing with mature thinking adults but anyone who has even paid a moments attention the republicans in the freaking 10 years knows we are not.
Here’s where the Dems need to get their chit together. As a woman, my body and my inalienable right to be a sentient human will not be the price for a half arsed bill nor any bill. So far Dems are sleeping on the job not just for “bipartisan” objects but for freaks like Stupak. His dead arse does not and never will trump my will to be free and human in my own country. The dems need to get on board with that wholeheartedly or get busing sucking pickles.
When Dems stand for me, I will stand for them. Right now I wouldn’t turn my back them any more than I’d turn my back on today’s conservatives. It’s looking more like the Dems represent rich corporate hacks than they do the people.
Warner is a good example of a more general problem. If you go through each of the moderate/conservative Dems who are holding up the process, it turns out that none of them has a proposal that would actually improve the bills in any meaningful way. They had a chance to undo the WH drug deal in Senate Finance and they didn’t vote for it; they haven’t pushed negotiations with the drup companies; they vote repeatedly to keep raising payments to Medicare doctors, they won’t support a strong/bigger public option.
The Warner type moderates would make the Senate bill even worse; I don’t know of any exceptions. Snowe? Collins? Lieberman? Ben Nelson? Go through the list and i can’t think of a single holdout Senator who’s tried to improve either the cost-cutting or the coverage of uninsured, or who’s proposed a viable funding method to improve affordability. Are there any exceptions?
Technically, the felony is non-payment of federal taxes, which has always had a possible prison term as part of it’s sentence, in addition to fines.
You wax your car?
Jon, you need to pass along all those reform measures to Congress. They apparently haven’t heard about them either.
David Dayen is upstairs!
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It is useful perhaps to compare how hot button American political playouts work for Americans who want non-stop tax cuts or want to prohibit Americans smoking marijuana or want to restrict American women who might seek abortion choice for a variety of reasons. Compare these with how sought American healthcare reform has been thwarted several times since end of WW2.
It is certain entrenched American money interests are fierce about not seeing any changes to what creates wealth for them. American military weapon makers. Wall Street. American Banking. American For Profit Healthinsurers.All share this desire to fully deny any reset of how the money comes to them in America.
It is certain the unholy alliances formed between WashingtonDC politicians,K Street,entrenched economic niche players and top five per cent of Americans who get to control fifty percent of American household wealth have made this healthcare reform a doomed undertaking.
At this point it were better to not do anything all things considered.
A year from now many details will still be sketchy or hidden from common view. Waiting until 2013 to start this so called reform seems a long and open invitation to entrenched interests to shapeshift WashingtonDC backroom deals to suit them more than common American citizens.
The worst part of not going over to American Single Payer Plan or true American Health Security for all Americans is it will cripple American economic global competitiveness. Employer based healthcare is not the global standard. For profit health insurance based on employer provide is not the global standard. This reform fails completely to address this.
Barack Obama is a fraud. The Democratic Party is a fraud.
They have done very little actual reform or progressive political movement forward into mid 21st century.
Taking credit and crowing about this sham reform reveals how shallow the elected winners of 2008 American election are. They can go to hell.
Not that I’m aware of; good question.
i’d only qualify it with ‘relevant, viable’ exceptions.
These are the worst kind of legislators.This guy,Warner believes in profit,it then means that people take a back seat to profit.I can never support anyone with that philosophy.
Anyone knows if Lieberman was at the Clinton-Dem Senate meeting today ?
And if he was Why was he invited ? He is not a Dem and he is planning to filibuster the Dem agenda.
If the Federal government is propping up the system by subsidizing it with tax money while forcing people to buy its products, then when, pray tell, will it “inventiably” (sic) break down”?
Eh?
Should we wait for the US Federal Government to collapse?
I agree – why prop up a disfunctional system? In truth, the system was headed for immenent collapse (a good thing!), which will not happen if the health care bill passes. Combine the loss of health insurance due to joblessness with the number of companies who are curtailing benefits due to steep insurance price increases, and you have fewer customers for the insurance companies. The need for universal health care would soon become obvious to all. This bill is really a bail-out of our existing system. Also, we will likely normalize relations with Cuba soon. Access to cheap medical care close to our borders would be a threat to hospitals and doctors, who would rather have universal care (provided by them) than see their customers drift offshore.
the late great Steve Gilliard showed no mercy to Kos over Warner
Does Warner not understand that the public option, if robust, would help drive down costs? Come on, Mark, it’s not that complex. It’s already working in Ohio and it could easily be expanded to cover more and more. http://cli.gs/23yYaM/
Oh, they all understand that, stephhunter. What they are looking for is a specifically NEOLIBERAL health insurance policy, one which privatizes profits while collectivizing costs.
Thanks OFG. That’s exactly what I would have said.
Let this fucking piece of crap fail.
Y’know, I’m starting to think it might be a smart tactic for Dems to “let” the Republicans filibuster and thereby block health care “reform.” Then it will be on THEIR plate — the Party of NO — that nothing happened.
To me this is a lot more attractive than Dems getting saddled with this ineffective, piece of crap [and likely to get more so by the time the Senate gets through with it] bill and its consequences: mandates, continued sky-rocketing of premiums, no effective date until 2013, no public option or other cost controllers, extending PhARMA’s drug patent robbery — did I miss anything?
Wonderful job, Jon, to the point & VERY well stated!
Yeah, that’ll work.
I think you’ve identified a brilliant strategy and I support it.
Yes, let the rethugs take credit for killing the so-called “HCR”. Why cannot we separate the idea of “health insurance” from “health care”? Oh yeah, it’s the ownership of the Healthcare Corps by Wall Street, and their honeypots for politicians.