Comments on: No Health Care Bill Til Next Year? Fine By Me

By: readerOfTeaLeaves

readerOfTeaLeaves — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:53:56 +0000

Agree that delay almost certainly favors not only a public option, but a public option that covers a huge portion of the US public.

I’ve seen a huge shift in attitudes among people that I know just since late August.

By: gamd521

gamd521 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:26:56 +0000

I think that faced with an uphill fight with so many hurdles to overcome like most of the the Media, Obama, the paid off congress and the health industry not tomention an easily swayed public, it is not at all a sure bet that waiting for a better outcome is wise.

Although the pressure from the left to include the PO has borne fruit, that option has also been watered down by the forces working against it. It is hard to argue against the fact that over time the outlines for HCR has not gotten any better.

The only thing that would tip the balance at this point is if the threat of being unseated seems credible. If a move to unseat Reid is to be undertaken it shoulld begin in earnest now, so too for Nelson, Lincoln and Landrieu.

By: btweenmanwoman

btweenmanwoman — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:10:52 +0000

Honestly, I am angry and getting angrier by the minute on this batch of Democratic officials and the current Republican President. Grow a pair. Develop your character. Lead. This body politic is demonstrating the same incompetence and corruption the Republicans deliver. Since a vote for a third party candidate is relatively meaningless, I am begining to feel electing a Republican is better than electing another Democrat who act like a Republican. At least with a Republican in office it is easier to fight like heck to kick ‘em out of office. This Democratic majority is worthless if they act like Republicans. Just like Obama.

By: letsgetitdone

letsgetitdone — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:40:49 +0000

Thanks, Jane. Point taken. You never said it was better to pass a bad bill than no bill at all.

Again, what do you think the messaging should look like from this point on?

By: mikewstagg

mikewstagg — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:23:18 +0000

What the record clearly shows is that these bills will not get better with the passage of time.

Leaving this to fester behind closed doors — beyond the view of the public and the netroots/grassroots — does not serve the interests of anyone interested in reform.

Bring this to a vote. Force the issue.

By: LKN2

LKN2 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:39:20 +0000

The good thing about a VAT is that it acts like a tariff – all those products made in China by American companies would finally be taxed! The bad thing is that our politicos would not lower existing taxes by the amount of new VAT taxes. They’d probably find a new war to spend it on.

By: PaulaT

PaulaT — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:12:57 +0000

Joe would be great for the Palestinians. Look at how he’s “representing” Connecticut. His being on Israel’s team could work out to be the best thing that ever happened to the Palestinians. Get the Saudis to pay him as much as Aetna has and the Middle East is a whole new ballgame for good ole Joe.

By: MarkH

MarkH — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:54:23 +0000

Dems have yelled about healthcare reform for decades. Well, now it’s here and what do they do? Delay, stall, hesitate, call it what you will. It doesn’t appeal to me. What I like to see is that when someone has campaigned for a policy for decades that when they’re given the chance they implement the policy and go on.

If the party was just pulling our leg all this time then maybe these politicians aren’t the guys I want to support.

Pass the Dem agenda or look for other supporters, er suckers.

By: robbep

robbep — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:24:03 +0000

Obama wnts to pass a bill just to say he got a bill passed he cld give a rats ss if it actually helps someone. I dont think the bill in the house is good enough for us to support and if he misses his deadline oh well to bad for him. We progressives need to make it clear to Obama and the dems that anything less than a bill that has a robust public option that we all have access to is unacceptable. If we cant get that then we will just stay home on election nite.

By: John

John — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:15:32 +0000

THANK YOU, JANE!

I’ve been saying for quite a few weeks that the current pile o’ stinking crap being peddled as health care “reform” needs to be deep-sixed so they can start over. There’s so much awful stuff in there that most people don’t know about, like baked-in premium increases for private insurance and how toothless the contemplated public option is. The whole thing is a giveaway to Big Pharma and the medical-industrial complex.

We want REAL health care. Geez, if any of these redneck idiots had the real deal, they’d stop ranting about “socialism” and change their middle names to Hussein. The Democrats need to realize this and stop being GOP Lite.