Comments on: Care For A Side Of Biofuel With That Health Care Reform? http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:37:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: gdawg http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58809 gdawg Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:06:21 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58809 Actually Algae is a very valuable product that sells for hundreds of dollars as ingredients for supplements. To turn it into low value fuel may not be the smartest thing ... I'm just saying. Actually Algae is a very valuable product that sells for hundreds of dollars as ingredients for supplements. To turn it into low value fuel may not be the smartest thing … I’m just saying.

]]> By: cbl2 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58796 cbl2 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:55:18 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58796 yep, that's why I said "scratch that" at 2 above yep, that’s why I said “scratch that” at 2 above

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58614 ThingsComeUndone Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:07:17 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58614 What about using algae as an organic fertilizer we now use fertilizer made from oil I believe and as algae dries on the surface of the soil it might protect the soil from erosion plus I think we can spray the algae on with current farm equipment we would just need a strain of algae that absorbs a lot of nitrogen from the air. What about using algae as an organic fertilizer we now use fertilizer made from oil I believe and as algae dries on the surface of the soil it might protect the soil from erosion plus I think we can spray the algae on with current farm equipment we would just need a strain of algae that absorbs a lot of nitrogen from the air.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58602 ThingsComeUndone Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:02:07 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58602 Its a good idea to research but remember Shale oil in the 70's, Hydrogen power under Bush? We have the GM Volt now we have hybrid cars now we can push now to make every car a Volt or Hybrid or we can keep paying for oil for decades and hope Biofuel comes through. By the way didn't most of the bio fuel companies fail as corn prices went up as farmers who use fuel to harvest the corn ethanol had to charge more? This sounds like a tax giveaway to support a dying industry and maybe demand for corn. Its a good idea to research but remember Shale oil in the 70′s, Hydrogen power under Bush? We have the GM Volt now we have hybrid cars now we can push now to make every car a Volt or Hybrid or we can keep paying for oil for decades and hope Biofuel comes through.
By the way didn’t most of the bio fuel companies fail as corn prices went up as farmers who use fuel to harvest the corn ethanol had to charge more?
This sounds like a tax giveaway to support a dying industry and maybe demand for corn.

]]> By: gdawg http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58449 gdawg Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:30:38 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58449 That quote is about Black Liquor not algae. The pulp guys were inadvertantly given a $50 billion tax credit win fall that the IRS reaffirmed recently becuase of how the cellolusic section of the renewable producer tax credit was written so it has nothing to do with the section in the Health Care bill. Incidentally algae may have a better chance as a feedstock for ethanol (fermentation) than biodiesel because extracting the oil is too expensive. That quote is about Black Liquor not algae. The pulp guys were inadvertantly given a $50 billion tax credit win fall that the IRS reaffirmed recently becuase of how the cellolusic section of the renewable producer tax credit was written so it has nothing to do with the section in the Health Care bill. Incidentally algae may have a better chance as a feedstock for ethanol (fermentation) than biodiesel because extracting the oil is too expensive.

]]> By: selise http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58446 selise Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:21:57 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58446 no kucinich amendment to permit states to go single payer on their own? no kucinich amendment to permit states to go single payer on their own?

]]> By: cbl2 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58445 cbl2 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:13:05 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58445 scratch that, <a href="http://vanhollen.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=152921" rel="nofollow">looks like it's Van Hollen</a> est $24B in tax credits and you called it right on the algae :D scratch that,

looks like it’s Van Hollen

est $24B in tax credits

and you called it right on the algae :D

]]> By: cbl2 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/11/03/care-for-a-side-of-biofuel-with-that-health-care-reform/#comment-58444 cbl2 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:56:23 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4383#comment-58444 <blockquote>Of course, this is not my expertise, so there might (and probably is) some huge industry give away that I’m missing </blockquote> found this while looking for something completely different: As <strong>the current $7 billion alternative fuel credit </strong>to kraft pulp producers <strong>expires this year</strong>, mills could shift into the biofuel producer program, if approved by the Environmental Protection Agency, which currently lacks guidelines on the matter, a knowledgeable source told PPI Pulp & Paper Week. Given political opposition to this year's credit, sources believe there will be greater efforts to derail the new program, although perhaps not until later in 2010 if not 2011. Most analysts seemed to not factor in the benefit to companies until more information is known. <a href="http://www.risiinfo.com/techchannels/powerenergy/US-cellulosic-biofuel-tax-credit-may-open-up-to-paper-industry.html" rel="nofollow">linky</a> now off to see just who their friends are

Of course, this is not my expertise, so there might (and probably is) some huge industry give away that I’m missing

found this while looking for something completely different:

As the current $7 billion alternative fuel credit to kraft pulp producers expires this year, mills could shift into the biofuel producer program, if approved by the Environmental Protection Agency, which currently lacks guidelines on the matter, a knowledgeable source told PPI Pulp & Paper Week.

Given political opposition to this year’s credit, sources believe there will be greater efforts to derail the new program, although perhaps not until later in 2010 if not 2011. Most analysts seemed to not factor in the benefit to companies until more information is known.

linky

now off to see just who their friends are

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