Comments on: CBO Director Elmendorf Calls “Bending the Cost Curve” a Meaningless Evaluation http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:37:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: tinman1967 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57702 tinman1967 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:40:20 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57702 I've never believed any of the numbers coming out of Washington. Personally I think the cost will be $3 trillion over ten years. But as you say, this was never about cost anyway (although we're going to have to face that eventually). This is about getting coverage of some sort for every American. I’ve never believed any of the numbers coming out of Washington. Personally I think the cost will be $3 trillion over ten years. But as you say, this was never about cost anyway (although we’re going to have to face that eventually). This is about getting coverage of some sort for every American.

]]> By: selise http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57687 selise Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:35:11 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57687 bending the curve refers to the trajectory of national health expenditures as a percent of gdp. even i know that. cms report of hr 3200 doesn't go past 10 years out, but it's easy to see from their numbers. bending the curve refers to the trajectory of national health expenditures as a percent of gdp. even i know that. cms report of hr 3200 doesn’t go past 10 years out, but it’s easy to see from their numbers.

]]> By: khin http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57680 khin Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:19:23 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57680 Just <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/11778" rel="nofollow">call the House leadership</a>. It's our last hope. Just call the House leadership. It’s our last hope.

]]> By: marcopolo http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57677 marcopolo Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:03:01 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57677 So who decides what gets scored when? Because that could put some pressure on fiscal conservatives. "'Senator X' opposed legislation that would have saved the American people $90b per year." Hell of a talking point. So who decides what gets scored when? Because that could put some pressure on fiscal conservatives. “‘Senator X’ opposed legislation that would have saved the American people $90b per year.” Hell of a talking point.

]]> By: Larue http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57674 Larue Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:57:39 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57674 TCU, I just simply can't fathom what the dems are thinking, that there won't be 70% of We The People in the streets rioting about this pseudo reform that's a giveaway to corporate interests. The Dem's are gonna lose their shirts on this one, enuff to marginalize them as bad as the Rethugs have martinalized themselves. I don't get what the Dem's don't see in their future . . . . they will be dumped! By the left, by the middle, by the right side conservadem voters who don't get healthcare or reform of same. They can't ride this out! Signing a piece of shit legislation will NOT save them in '10 or '12! Don't they KNOW this? TCU, I just simply can’t fathom what the dems are thinking, that there won’t be 70% of We The People in the streets rioting about this pseudo reform that’s a giveaway to corporate interests.

The Dem’s are gonna lose their shirts on this one, enuff to marginalize them as bad as the Rethugs have martinalized themselves.

I don’t get what the Dem’s don’t see in their future . . . . they will be dumped! By the left, by the middle, by the right side conservadem voters who don’t get healthcare or reform of same.

They can’t ride this out! Signing a piece of shit legislation will NOT save them in ’10 or ’12!

Don’t they KNOW this?

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57668 ThingsComeUndone Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:34:58 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57668 <blockquote>. They killed the robust public option, even though it would save $85 billion, and now, for the most part, they remain uncommitted to voting for a bill that will reduce the deficit by over a $100 billion in the next ten years</blockquote> We are going to remember this come election day.

. They killed the robust public option, even though it would save $85 billion, and now, for the most part, they remain uncommitted to voting for a bill that will reduce the deficit by over a $100 billion in the next ten years

We are going to remember this come election day.

]]> By: Larue http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57666 Larue Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:31:36 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57666 Thanks, that's a good simplified picture of what's going on. It's all fractured so much at this point, I can't believe there's any hope for better than Reid/Pelosi. Nor can I follow the details or nuances for shit . . . . way too complicated. If there's ANY possibility of amendments coming into play to expand either reform effort to the people, I'll be shocked, and then, I'll be damned and crazed happy if it actually comes into a final bill that's signed by BO. Thanks, that’s a good simplified picture of what’s going on.

It’s all fractured so much at this point, I can’t believe there’s any hope for better than Reid/Pelosi. Nor can I follow the details or nuances for shit . . . . way too complicated.

If there’s ANY possibility of amendments coming into play to expand either reform effort to the people, I’ll be shocked, and then, I’ll be damned and crazed happy if it actually comes into a final bill that’s signed by BO.

]]> By: Larue http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57664 Larue Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:28:33 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57664 Yes, she surely did. And us, too. Yes, she surely did. And us, too.

]]> By: Larue http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57663 Larue Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:27:28 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57663 Talk about bent curves and costing analyses. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/house-health-care-bill-a_b_338762.html" rel="nofollow">Mz. Hamsher Wrote This.</a> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-anna-eshoo/setting-the-record-straig_b_340106.html" rel="nofollow">Mz. Eshoo Wrote This.</a> I can't WAIT for Mz. Hamsher's line by line reply to Eshoo's crap of a corporate rant and rage against a truth she had legislated AGAINST. In Mz. Eshoo's reply, in the comments, are three key comments that take Mz. Eshpoooooo to task for her faulty analysis and misleading faux rage. FTFP'! Politicians, that is. May they all rot in hell for this crap reform they are trying to run down on us. Don't they understand when the care ain't there, the american people are gonna go batshit crazy about it at the polls? Don't they understand, they are writing their own end to their political lives? Talk about bent curves and costing analyses.

Mz. Hamsher Wrote This.

Mz. Eshoo Wrote This.

I can’t WAIT for Mz. Hamsher’s line by line reply to Eshoo’s crap of a corporate rant and rage against a truth she had legislated AGAINST.

In Mz. Eshoo’s reply, in the comments, are three key comments that take Mz. Eshpoooooo to task for her faulty analysis and misleading faux rage.

FTFP’!

Politicians, that is. May they all rot in hell for this crap reform they are trying to run down on us.

Don’t they understand when the care ain’t there, the american people are gonna go batshit crazy about it at the polls? Don’t they understand, they are writing their own end to their political lives?

]]> By: Twain http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cbo-director-elmendorf-calls-%e2%80%9cbending-the-cost-curve%e2%80%9d-a-meaningless-evaluation/#comment-57662 Twain Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:26:55 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=4053#comment-57662 I try to keep up with who's who but this Stupak is someone I have never ever heard of. He must sit on the very last row. Did he just decide that he wanted his 15 minutes of fame? I try to keep up with who’s who but this Stupak is someone I have never ever heard of. He must sit on the very last row. Did he just decide that he wanted his 15 minutes of fame?

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