Politico is reporting that Thomas Carper (D-DE) is working on an alternative to the public option opt-out, which would be the public option opt-in. This is would a “national” public option where states must pass a law to join. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) told the AP he was against any federal public option, but might open to the possibility plans set up and run by the states.
As I wrote earlier today, the public option opt-in is a federal public option that would likely be denied in a majority of states. I suspect, at least for the first several years, only a dozen or so of the bluest states would opt-in. The much smaller customer base should seriously limit the ability of the public option to drive down premiums. A public option opt-in would likely produce a technically viable insurance entity, but one with almost no real impact on our health care system, and one only available to few individuals in a handful of states.
As weak and worthless as the public option opt-in idea is, the state-based public plan idea is an even bigger joke. As Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) pointed out states currently have the power to set up public plans right now. There is nothing legally stopping them. Saying you want to “allow” states to set up state-based public plans is the equivalent to saying you want to do nothing at all. The other big problem with this idea is that the public plans would likely only be available to the roughly 10% of people using the exchanges. Most states have a populations below 3 million and therefore would be unlikely to create state-based public plans with sufficient costumer bases to be truly viable.
Carper’s national public option opt-in is a nearly useless “compromise.” While Lieberman’s state-based public plans is a complete joke and by definition can’t even be called a “compromise” because it is the status quo. If someone tells you they believe state-based public plans are a “compromise,” they are either ignorant, a liar, or likely both.



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A compromise implies two willing parties, or sides, giving up something to achieve a result. What, exactly, have the Corporatists given up in these “negotiations?” Nothing, that’s what.
And Liberals have continually given in, every time, on every issue.
Let’s stop now.
Amazing. Here we are 24 hours after Reid says he will introduce a bill with a public option w opt-out and already the discussion is on to flavors of opt-in…and state based programs.
Now *that* is Joementum.
Ironically, if Lieberman had been taken out in 2006, liberals would have a real scalp to strike fear into the hearts of the DLC style collaborationists (or at least make them think twice about punching lefties in the face for fun and profit.
The ONLY way to negotiate any issue with Lieberman is to introduce an “Israeli” argument into it, regardless how unrelated it is. Promise to take something away from what we provide Israel or to provide something more for Israel, that would bring him back on board VERY quickly.
My guess is, he’s trying to leverage some Israeli argument into the frey; testing the waters to see what he can get. I believe there is NOTHING he wouldn’t do for Israel. That’s why, in the end, he’ll cave on Healthcare & why he’ll run again when his term expires. Israel needs him right where he is.
Just imagine if Lamont were in there.
!!
But at least we got…wait we got something didn’t we?
Yeah, we got f*cked.
Given the tradeoff of a seemingly strong and liberal candidate or a guy neocon enough that you need to repeat is “with us on everything but the war”, the obvious answer is…
Apparently, Joe doesn’t know that Connecticut already has a successful state public option, the Charter Oak Plan.
It hasn’t killed his constituents the health insurance companies.
these are the very ideas Tom Daschle has been touting
apparently that is the genesis of Carper injecting it in to the conversation a few weeks back – as an Opt-In, apparently Schumer ran with it as an Opt Out
this has a certain Tiny Dancer’s cloven hooves all over it