Comments on: Sign the Petition Against Triggers: The Zombie That Keeps Coming Back From the Dead http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:37:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: damagedone http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56198 damagedone Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:28:21 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56198 From the latest Woody Harrelson movie, I forget the title but the zombies have learned how to run. It was not 'Natural Born Zombie Killers;' the story was sort of similar to ealier movie also starring Woody. Maybe there is hope for that; I see it only takes 15K to make a movie now. The zombies could learn further and be riding Trigger and singing Happy Trails to You. From the latest Woody Harrelson movie, I forget the title but the zombies have learned how to run. It was not ‘Natural Born Zombie Killers;’ the story was sort of similar to ealier movie also starring Woody. Maybe there is hope for that; I see it only takes 15K to make a movie now. The zombies could learn further and be riding Trigger and singing Happy Trails to You.

]]> By: djfourmoney http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56071 djfourmoney Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:17:37 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56071 If Dems agree with a Opt-Out, then they need to only vote for it, if its goes online Jan 2nd 2010 (Fuck Snowe). The Red States can Opt-Out in 2013 but largely that won't happen save for a couple of isolated cases where there is no saving those people from themselves they'll have to go down with the ship. The devil is in the details and we need to keep making sure its Affordable for the LEAST among us. This is 3/4 reform. The rest will have to go the State Level. I'm convinced Single Payer will happen in Progressive States, especially if there is a delay (2013) in the activation of the Public Option. If Dems agree with a Opt-Out, then they need to only vote for it, if its goes online Jan 2nd 2010 (Fuck Snowe). The Red States can Opt-Out in 2013 but largely that won’t happen save for a couple of isolated cases where there is no saving those people from themselves they’ll have to go down with the ship.

The devil is in the details and we need to keep making sure its Affordable for the LEAST among us.

This is 3/4 reform. The rest will have to go the State Level.

I’m convinced Single Payer will happen in Progressive States, especially if there is a delay (2013) in the activation of the Public Option.

]]> By: dakine01 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56065 dakine01 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:55:04 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56065 1) Two liberal hosts at nighttime do not a "liberal" media site make. 2) A "report on profits" in an industry is worth maybe as much as the paper it is printed on. Just think of how much more profits some of these insurance companies would have if they hadn't paid their upper level execs multi-millions of dollars in salary and bonuses. There are just way too many ways to cook the books. But thank you for playing and please come back soon. 1) Two liberal hosts at nighttime do not a “liberal” media site make.

2) A “report on profits” in an industry is worth maybe as much as the paper it is printed on. Just think of how much more profits some of these insurance companies would have if they hadn’t paid their upper level execs multi-millions of dollars in salary and bonuses. There are just way too many ways to cook the books.

But thank you for playing and please come back soon.

]]> By: visionbrkr http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56064 visionbrkr Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:47:52 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56064 OOPS, MORE LIBERAL LIES. YOU'D THINK TWO LIBERAL RAGS LIKE YOU AND MSNBC WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER ON THE TRUTH IF IT MATTERED. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33470129/ns/politics-health_care_reform/ OOPS,

MORE LIBERAL LIES. YOU’D THINK TWO LIBERAL RAGS LIKE YOU AND MSNBC WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER ON THE TRUTH IF IT MATTERED.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33470129/ns/politics-health_care_reform/

]]> By: hctomorrow http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56058 hctomorrow Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:47:51 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56058 Signed the petition and agree with it, even though the Public Option is a pathetic shadow of a real national health care plan, like the often mentioned Medicare for All. It might be an important step to convincing Americans to abandon their 'government is the problem' notions, however, if it isn't smothered in its crib. On another note, I wish that Jane wouldn't have conflated Zombies with the Health Care Industry. Zombies have their problems, especially in our prejudiced society, but many have come out in <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/zombie_action_health_care_reform" rel="nofollow">force</a> in <a href="http://www.stopthezombieapocalypse.com/" rel="nofollow">support of health care reform</a>. I do some part time work myself for The Zombie Rights Campaign, and we combat this notion that Zombies are brain-munching automatons all the time. Progressives and Zombies are natural allies, especially on health care. After all, if Zombiism isn't a 'pre-existing condition', what is? Signed the petition and agree with it, even though the Public Option is a pathetic shadow of a real national health care plan, like the often mentioned Medicare for All. It might be an important step to convincing Americans to abandon their ‘government is the problem’ notions, however, if it isn’t smothered in its crib.

On another note, I wish that Jane wouldn’t have conflated Zombies with the Health Care Industry. Zombies have their problems, especially in our prejudiced society, but many have come out in force in support of health care reform.

I do some part time work myself for The Zombie Rights Campaign, and we combat this notion that Zombies are brain-munching automatons all the time. Progressives and Zombies are natural allies, especially on health care. After all, if Zombiism isn’t a ‘pre-existing condition’, what is?

]]> By: bayville http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56057 bayville Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:45:10 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56057 As always a great post Jane, but I don't remember President Emmanuel winning the election in November. I think Obama deserves to be the object of the scorn, not his Chief of Staff. He serves at the pleasure of the President, not the other way around. Just sayin'. As always a great post Jane, but I don’t remember President Emmanuel winning the election in November.

I think Obama deserves to be the object of the scorn, not his Chief of Staff. He serves at the pleasure of the President, not the other way around.

Just sayin’.

]]> By: cbl2 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56056 cbl2 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:44:01 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56056 . .

]]> By: TarheelDem http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56055 TarheelDem Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:39:30 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56055 Reid is not having the trigger scored by CBO. Co-ops are still in, along with public option. My reading of this. Exchange lets you slot in plans by different organizations. In the exchange will be private plans, co-op plans, and the public plan (public option). So people can choose a private plan or they can choose a co-op plan or they can choose a public plan. A both/and solution. Then we can see if co-ops can compete or not. Opt-out by states can only occur after folks have had a chance to try the public plan is how I read the one-year window. Wonder how people who sign up for the public plan will respond if their state begins considering opting out? Reid is not having the trigger scored by CBO.

Co-ops are still in, along with public option.

My reading of this. Exchange lets you slot in plans by different organizations. In the exchange will be private plans, co-op plans, and the public plan (public option). So people can choose a private plan or they can choose a co-op plan or they can choose a public plan. A both/and solution. Then we can see if co-ops can compete or not.

Opt-out by states can only occur after folks have had a chance to try the public plan is how I read the one-year window. Wonder how people who sign up for the public plan will respond if their state begins considering opting out?

]]> By: Oilfieldguy http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56054 Oilfieldguy Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:38:11 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56054 Not sure, but I think Harry said they have until 2014 to opt out. So states could opt out just as soon as the ink is dry. Of course, we'll have to wait and see how this actually manifests itself. Not sure, but I think Harry said they have until 2014 to opt out. So states could opt out just as soon as the ink is dry. Of course, we’ll have to wait and see how this actually manifests itself.

]]> By: cbl2 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/sign-the-petition-against-triggers-the-zombie-that-keeps-coming-back-from-the-dead/#comment-56053 cbl2 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:36:05 +0000 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/?p=3752#comment-56053 what in bloody hell ? he claimed not to have bothered to send triggers to CBO for scoring, but throws in co-ops which were all but incinerated by CBO scoring ?? curiouser and curiouser what in bloody hell ? he claimed not to have bothered to send triggers to CBO for scoring, but throws in co-ops which were all but incinerated by CBO scoring ??

curiouser and curiouser

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