The Hill is reporting that Pelosi now believes she has the vote for a modified version of the robust public option favored by progressives. Pelosi made two key concessions to garner sufficient votes.
Pelosi offered a key policy change to the “Medicare plus 5 percent” option being pushed by the Progressive Caucus and other liberal members.
Rural members have been irritated that the “plus 5 percent” went only to physicians, not hospitals. Hospitals under the “robust” option would be reimbursed at Medicare rates.
This concession reduces the cost saving potential of the public option by roughly $20 billion. It is hoped that this will help win over Democrats representing rural districts that complain Medicare reimbursement rates are too low in rural areas.
Perhaps the more important “concession” from Pelosi, however, was acknowledging that a robust public option might not make it out of conference:
She said that if House Democrats pass the public option liberals support, they could ultimately have the more centrist version of the provision when the final bill is hashed out in conference with senators, according to some of those in attendance.
By passing this more robust version of the public option in the House, it should increase the likelihood that a final compromise with the Senate would include the weaker (but still national and available on “day one”) “level playing field” public option favored by some blue dogs. I suspect this acknowledgment was more critical than a modification to the payment rates for hospitals to winning over some conservative Democrats.





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Excuse my copying from daily kos, but this statement by Howard Dean pretty much nails our alternatives:
Gov. Dean writes:
The bottom line on healthcare reform is that it is not worth doing if it is not done right….
Subsidizing Americans to buy private health insurance without giving them the choice of a more rational and less expensive system is simply pouring money into a system that increases costs at twice the rate of inflation, serves preferentially those who don’t need help, and offers not peace of mind to those at risk in difficult economic times.
In short, the healthcare reform bill is not worth passing unless the American people have the choice of signing up for a public option–a real public option…. If healthcare reform is not the desired outcome, this administration or the Democratic Party or the Congress as a whole should pass guaranteed issue and community rating and be done with it.
This is her Senate game, right? Trying to get Harry Reid to put Public Option into the merged bill?
It seems that something good rarely if ever comes from Conference Bills. It should be re-named “The Lobbyists’ Last Resort”
Prediction, no matter what gets passed it will get trashed.
I’ve been doing some math. It turns out that the funds spent by the health care industry for lobbying against real reform are more than enough to cover premiums for the number of people who die due to lack of insurance. See my diary.
The myth being that if they had insurance they would have coverage.
If the revised Medicare+5% PO passed the House and the compromise in conference was “Opt Out” on that robust PO — I think I’d be satisfied.
Could a state opt out of allowing private coverage.
They’d better get this right. We’re not interested in bipartisanship. We want a real bill and the blue dogs are going to get their asses kicked when it’s time for reelection. I don’t want to hear this bullshit about needing 60 votes. All of their asses including Obama’s is on the line. If this is his idea of leadership, he’s as ineffective as Harry Reid. Now with Reid and Shumer sparring about the public option, I’m living for the day when Shumer get’s the Majority Leader gavel. Reid has no balls!
Olympia Snowe is pushing the prez around.
Nancy is sticking to her PO guns.
Why do only the women have balls?
Ooooh… nasty! :)
Would not be permitted by our corporacrat rulers but it is a nice thought.
Sounds good to me. I just think rather than trying to find a public option that is so weak that it probably couldn’t survive on its own, as Schumer seems to be doing, let’s start with Medicare+5 and find a way to limit it so the Senate will pass it. (No Olympia, a trigger does NOT count as a “limit”.)
Devil is in the details. One little detail wrong and everyone in an OPT-OUT state gets fucked. If the opt-out doesn’t have a TON of restrictions for private insurers and the state doesn’t enforce it…it’s a nightmare.
As things continued to deteriorate in pre-revolutionary France people would say “if only the King knew what is going on”. Well the King knew and today Obama knows.
Seeing as how this is The Hill reporting, I suspect those “some” in attendance were the Blue Dogs who want to kill or maim the public option in conference committee with the Senate. I would not treat this as a Pelosi concession. But to be sure, keep calling the Progressive Caucus in the House and remind them that they need to be a firewall to ensure that the conference does not give away a robust public option. Continuing the public pressure gives them the cover to stand up to the assumption that they must be the ones to give way.
The change of Medicare + 5% to include hospitals makes a lot of sense and calls out Kent Conrad. If they need additional revenue to make it deficit neutral, they should up the tax surcharge on the top bracket sufficient to deliver the necessary amount. They should also point out that that the Policy Advisory Committee in the legislation could review Medicare rates and the formulas after the legislation is passed to ensure more equitable rates.
I attended the Senate Finance committee this past Tuesday in D.C. I had no idea that Medicare patients seniors in rural areas received less compensation than in our more densely populated areas until I heard Conrad bring this up.
“It is hoped that this will help win over Democrats representing rural districts that complain Medicare reimbursement rates are too low in rural areas.”
Seems like a no brainer to straighten this out.
Stood with the Code Pinkers for a bit after the hearing when the GOP were being interviewed. My sign read “I am one of the 40 Milion uninsured”
Wish I would have spoken up when the GOP asked the press if they had any questions. Can not believe that they did not ask one fucking question
GOP reaction after vote
http://cspan.org/Watch/Media/2009/10/13/HP/A/24253/Senate+Finance+Cmte+Vote+on+Health+Care+Legislation.aspx
Pelosi’s press briefing Today
http://cspan.org/Watch/Media/2009/10/15/HP/A/24335/House+Speaker+Rep+Nancy+Pelosi+DCA+Weekly+Legislative+Briefing.aspx
How much of the rate hikes that insurance companies have foisted on their policy holders has been to cover the cost of the lobbyists.
They’re Democrats – in the end, after ObamaRahma shakes them down, they’ll ‘all’ cave.
The best chance may be to drive Obama’s ‘favorables’ down. Start finally laying the blame where it belongs.
Funny, I don’t remember such a long, drawn out process when our Congressional representatives decided to fund the war in Iraq, or when they decided to devote trillion$s to bailing out the banks. Nobody was worrying about the fact that those initiatives weren’t “deficit neutral.” But heaven forbid that we the people should get decent fucking healthcare….
Yes, I would really like to know this, as well. I’d also like to know how much the health care industry pays their executives (even the so-called “non-profits”). As far as I can tell, they should all be called the “Health Denial Industry,” because that’s what they do.
I expect it depends on what week it is what the votes are and for what.
Pelosi’s press briefing…
The American People support the public option “62-31 they support a public option”
Pelosi “they (Americans) know if they are mandated to buy health insurance they don’t want to have to buy it from the same old insurance companies who have not served them well. We are saying rather than force them to buy health insurance from the insurance industry let’s give them the freedom to to do that if they wish or to have a public option. The more you talk mandate the higher the support for a public option becomes “
Repeat after me: deficit hawks oppose a public option because it would save tens of billions of dollars to both the treasury and individuals and would provide such attractive coverage that people would abandon the private insurers in droves.
What Wall Street genius did they have to go to in order to figure out that opaque political instrument?
So you saw Bill Moyers last week too!
You see it, North Carolina. Sharp post.
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Well duh! Who does she think we are, The Simpsons?
And what are we to extrapolate from this other than she plans on capitulation? This is Pelosi looking for her own Snowe job!
Right. Here’s a diary on exactly those points.