Comments on: Baucus Not Even Talking To Rockefeller

By: lewisclark

lewisclark — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:41:54 +0000

#5: dang,… for a guy who references William Butler Yeats in his sig, that was a shockingly incoherent string of nonsense you just threw out there. I take off my hat to you!

By: Auduboner

Auduboner — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:09:15 +0000

2 = Win

5: Learn how to write complete sentences in English. Or go on the wagon. Or both. Also.

By: Auduboner

Auduboner — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:05:31 +0000

Rocky and Schu should simply vote against this proposed bill. Take the Baucus/Rahm Supplicant’s Memorial Act off the table. That would leave the HELP bill, and the three House bills to go to conference. Much better.

Baucus would be seen as the laughingstock that he is, for not even getting his own bill out of committee.

By: GDC707

GDC707 — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:24:00 +0000

This opt-out thing is so new and the specifics so “unspecific” that it’s hard to parse it. 1st question is: Who in the state will make the decision to “opt out?” Presumably the state legislature. If so then the state will be subject to the same rain of healthcartel $ that has polluted the Congress (and Prez.) If it’s the insurance commissioner-probably same problem. Governor-who knows? 2nd question is: how long does the state have to try it out before they decide to keep it or chuck it? Presumably, the longer the better as people get use to the PO. And finally, WHICH PO? A weak one? More states opt out. Strong one? more stay in.
I have to disagree with whoever said that single payer would’nt work state by state even in a big state like Calif. Well, it SHOULD. Calif. has more people than Canada and far more people than many (maybe all) European countries and they have single payer or some variant.
Finally, as a male I certainly think boob jobs should be covered under any national health plan- as a “beautify America” plan if nothing else. (joke.)

By: questioneverything

questioneverything — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:12:00 +0000

Agreed.

By: ThingsComeUndone

ThingsComeUndone — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:15:49 +0000

I will always shout and tell Raven etc what I’ve said still I am the oldest and maybe the last of the family my debt stands! Its a Mexican thing. If there are Men amoung the rest of Mexican any of them then it stands!
Accept the gift for my ghost will if there is any power amoung heaven! We help help you and yours your actions deserve no less!

By: selise

selise — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:15:32 +0000

single payer means just that - one gov run health insurance program. no competition required because the only role for private insurance companies is the non medically necessary stuff — botox, boob jobs, etc.

saves money and covers EVERYONE.

By: Larue

Larue — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:07:52 +0000

Guess my line of thinking is, any single state on single payer, has no real clout, even CA, to force pricing competition on the insurers. Takes a nationally based program with national bulk buying power to force change.

I don’t see that happening at this point, sadly.

Thanks for the reply . . . it’s sure looking like a sellout to the corps, and a screwing of the people.

Mandate them, tax the benefits. With REAL unemployment at 20% or more, and no jobs in sight, who the fuck is gonna buy mandated insurance if they can’t pay rent or eat?

I wanna see the government enforce that mandate fine on people broke and jobless.

A recipe for civil chaos and anarchy. STUPID!

Sigh, time to reach for some Merlot, my BP is rising . . lol

By: Larue

Larue — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:03:08 +0000

Thin gruel to force Congress to our bidding, in these fraught times of HC Lack Of Reform, methinks?

But hey, it’s something to hope for, ain’t it.

By: selise

selise — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:58:45 +0000

1) maybe PA and CA? ralphbon will know better, you can ask him at his new diary on this very topic: No Public Option Opt-Out Contingency Without a Single-Payer Opt-In Contingency!

2. not me. imo insurance industry bailout is a feature, not a bug.