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		<title>By: pointus</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/04/obama-passes-the-public-option-hot-potato/#comment-51008</link>
		<dc:creator>pointus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But I may just end up in ‘neutral’ and simply not bother to vote.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You &amp; me &amp; 150 million other disappointed people…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I may just end up in ‘neutral’ and simply not bother to vote.</p>
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<p>You &amp; me &amp; 150 million other disappointed people…</p>
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		<title>By: jpofbrooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpofbrooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tell me this, why cant we say President Obama? why is it Obama this, obama that, he is the President of the USA.Give the man his due.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me this, why cant we say President Obama? why is it Obama this, obama that, he is the President of the USA.Give the man his due.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/04/obama-passes-the-public-option-hot-potato/#comment-50767</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes…we need a rally in late Oct and a lobbying day…with all of the folks mentioned stirring us up&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes…we need a rally in late Oct and a lobbying day…with all of the folks mentioned stirring us up</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/04/obama-passes-the-public-option-hot-potato/#comment-50722</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama and his advisers seem desperate to ensure he serves only one term. I’m already sure I’ll not work actively for his reelection. I will certainly not give money, go to a rally, or display a bumper sticker or yard sign. Sure I will not vote Republican, too. But I may just end up in ‘neutral’ and simply not bother to vote.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama and his advisers seem desperate to ensure he serves only one term. I’m already sure I’ll not work actively for his reelection. I will certainly not give money, go to a rally, or display a bumper sticker or yard sign. Sure I will not vote Republican, too. But I may just end up in ‘neutral’ and simply not bother to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: joanneleon</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/04/obama-passes-the-public-option-hot-potato/#comment-50721</link>
		<dc:creator>joanneleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well there you go pulling back that curtain again, Jane.  (Hmm, I think I just made an unintentional SNL pun.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’ll be savaged, by those who refuse to see the writing on the wall, and by those who are frantically trying to cover up the writing on the wall, for this common sense, rational analysis.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cantwell’s plan, while it may help some people, is not a public plan and hopefully the rapid response by many on the left against calling it a public plan will be effective.  It’s not that it isn’t a good thing, but it is not a public plan.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And frankly, it’s not a stable thing either.  One thing that has not received enough attention is that Washington’s Basic Health Plan is shaky from a financial standpoint and their legislature has been looking for ways to cut people from its rolls all year.  There was a state budget cut and they were openly trying to reduce the number of people who have Basic Health Plan coverage even as the demand for it increased.  There are 15,000 people on the waiting list for this plan.&lt;/p&gt;
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The state won’t strip thousands of low-income residents of their subsidized health insurance but will make them pay more for the coverage next year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No eligible person will be booted off the Basic Health Plan, though state officials expect planned hikes in premiums and deductibles will be too costly for some and drive them from the program into the ever-growing ranks of the uninsured.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a trade-off viewed Monday by state and nonprofit health care leaders as the best of bad options for dealing with the Legislature’s slashing of $238 million from the Basic Health Plan budget.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090609/NEWS01/706099891&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.heraldnet.com/artic...../706099891&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;It’s worth taking the time to read about Washington state’s problems with their admirable attempt to provide health insurance for low income people who don’t qualify for Medicaid.  But when considering this plan, remember that some significant percentage of the money spent on this health care plan goes to the profits of insurance companies.  This is not a non-profit thing.  The state is negotiating rates with insurance companies to cover these people.  The state officials admit that people are making choices between food and rent and that many will go uninsured.  How many more could be covered if the insurance company middlemen were taken out of the equation?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there you go pulling back that curtain again, Jane.  (Hmm, I think I just made an unintentional SNL pun.)</p>
<p>You’ll be savaged, by those who refuse to see the writing on the wall, and by those who are frantically trying to cover up the writing on the wall, for this common sense, rational analysis.</p>
<p>Cantwell’s plan, while it may help some people, is not a public plan and hopefully the rapid response by many on the left against calling it a public plan will be effective.  It’s not that it isn’t a good thing, but it is not a public plan.  </p>
<p>And frankly, it’s not a stable thing either.  One thing that has not received enough attention is that Washington’s Basic Health Plan is shaky from a financial standpoint and their legislature has been looking for ways to cut people from its rolls all year.  There was a state budget cut and they were openly trying to reduce the number of people who have Basic Health Plan coverage even as the demand for it increased.  There are 15,000 people on the waiting list for this plan.</p>
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The state won’t strip thousands of low-income residents of their subsidized health insurance but will make them pay more for the coverage next year.</p>
<p>No eligible person will be booted off the Basic Health Plan, though state officials expect planned hikes in premiums and deductibles will be too costly for some and drive them from the program into the ever-growing ranks of the uninsured.</p>
<p>It’s a trade-off viewed Monday by state and nonprofit health care leaders as the best of bad options for dealing with the Legislature’s slashing of $238 million from the Basic Health Plan budget.<br /><a href="http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090609/NEWS01/706099891" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldnet.com/artic&#8230;../706099891</a>
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<p>It’s worth taking the time to read about Washington state’s problems with their admirable attempt to provide health insurance for low income people who don’t qualify for Medicaid.  But when considering this plan, remember that some significant percentage of the money spent on this health care plan goes to the profits of insurance companies.  This is not a non-profit thing.  The state is negotiating rates with insurance companies to cover these people.  The state officials admit that people are making choices between food and rent and that many will go uninsured.  How many more could be covered if the insurance company middlemen were taken out of the equation?</p>
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		<title>By: foucoult</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/04/obama-passes-the-public-option-hot-potato/#comment-50720</link>
		<dc:creator>foucoult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thank you jane. you are an inspiration to us all. we know you will never sell out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you jane. you are an inspiration to us all. we know you will never sell out.</p>
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		<title>By: GDC707</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/04/obama-passes-the-public-option-hot-potato/#comment-50719</link>
		<dc:creator>GDC707</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good link. Sad and morbid as it may be, perhaps we or MSNBC should showcase one American per day who dies because of no health insurance. Human faces and names with the unsaid message “will you be next?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good link. Sad and morbid as it may be, perhaps we or MSNBC should showcase one American per day who dies because of no health insurance. Human faces and names with the unsaid message “will you be next?”</p>
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		<title>By: fflambeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>fflambeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Puppethead you wrote:  &lt;em&gt;“Does Obama really want to block the public option that badly? I just can’t get my head around that. Rahm pushing what corporations want I get. But Obama going all wet noodle on it runs counter to the image he built of himself during his campaign.” &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama is all about image and promises and no follow through.  Haven’t you noticed that Obama called a WH conference on health care reform in Feb. and failed to invite a single speaker for single payer.  He took it off the table immediately and instead substituted the weaker “public option” as an option.  But then he met in secret behind locked doors with insurers (breaking his campaign pledge to hold all health care reform in public and televise them live on C-SPAN) and lo and behold, Obama began talking about “insurance reform”.  In Colorado, he gave a speech about the “public option” being a sliver.  You have to look at what Obama does and not what he promised to get elected.  There’s a big difference and not in just in the area of health care reform!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puppethead you wrote:  <em>“Does Obama really want to block the public option that badly? I just can’t get my head around that. Rahm pushing what corporations want I get. But Obama going all wet noodle on it runs counter to the image he built of himself during his campaign.” </em></p>
<p>Obama is all about image and promises and no follow through.  Haven’t you noticed that Obama called a WH conference on health care reform in Feb. and failed to invite a single speaker for single payer.  He took it off the table immediately and instead substituted the weaker “public option” as an option.  But then he met in secret behind locked doors with insurers (breaking his campaign pledge to hold all health care reform in public and televise them live on C-SPAN) and lo and behold, Obama began talking about “insurance reform”.  In Colorado, he gave a speech about the “public option” being a sliver.  You have to look at what Obama does and not what he promised to get elected.  There’s a big difference and not in just in the area of health care reform!</p>
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		<title>By: Patri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is wrong with all you people who are attacking Knoxville?  I don’t think the person asked such a terrible question and I don’t think s/he peed on anyone’s carpet.  These comments sound exactly like the Teabaggers.  They are trying to shut out all questions and to stifle any kind of reasonable discussion on any issue.  Why are the FDL commenters doing that here?  Folks, the Democracy we are all fighting so hard for should also apply here.  Stop attacking each other.  Target the proper people–the right-wingnuts, not each other!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is wrong with all you people who are attacking Knoxville?  I don’t think the person asked such a terrible question and I don’t think s/he peed on anyone’s carpet.  These comments sound exactly like the Teabaggers.  They are trying to shut out all questions and to stifle any kind of reasonable discussion on any issue.  Why are the FDL commenters doing that here?  Folks, the Democracy we are all fighting so hard for should also apply here.  Stop attacking each other.  Target the proper people–the right-wingnuts, not each other!</p>
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		<title>By: smcclurk</title>
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		<dc:creator>smcclurk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you so much Jane for being one of the few to keep making this potato hotter! I think this is great. Now they are searching for ways to try to include something half way decent instead of trying to hand us a bunch of crap and act like everything was out of their hands. Who do they think they’re kidding?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Jane for being one of the few to keep making this potato hotter! I think this is great. Now they are searching for ways to try to include something half way decent instead of trying to hand us a bunch of crap and act like everything was out of their hands. Who do they think they’re kidding?</p>
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