We are not talking millions we are talking hundreds of billions.

Keep reminding us, Jon.
We need to really stay focused on this stark fact.

I have my issues with the Lewin Group, but the main point is not that they are right, it is just to show how huge the mistake by the CBO was. We are not talking millions we are talking hundreds of billions.

And yes an economic philosophy that incites and inflames desires to have access to something other people don’t is really immoral as well as bad your your health.

edit: Nvm, I see you corrected yourself, but there’s still a problem: Why is the Lewin Group’s analysis credible now, but not when they estimate how many people will be pushed out of private insurance?

ealth insurance should have been ulinked from employers long ago.

Absolutely, It’s the simplest most effective way to fix things. And most fair for all Americans. Fatal mistake not to start there.

Figured it’d come from a Chicago area newspaper. How many contacts do you think the dcl’s dynamic duo of deceit, the pope of hope and his chi-town sidekick emanuel, have in chicago?

This is probably partially in reaction to the damaging narrative that comes from obama going to copenhagen while the health care debate was raging on in this country. They are in full spinning mode right now … not that they are ever out of it.

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Conrad said “his analyst” reported that this would undermine the pool. Wonder who the analyst are that he refers to?

Oh yeah

“well-dressed affluent ganstas”

Markets are good for allocating specific, optional goods: cars, diamond rings, shoes.
They are not at all good in allocating health care wellness programs.

You don’t go pick up a ‘quarter pound of health’ at the local shops, so why on earth we have them in a ‘for profit’ system simply shows how our entire ‘American’ economic beliefs are fundamentally flawed and — at this point, are almost certainly being used against us by money-laundering fiends. But I digress….

The only way to move out of the ‘for profit’ model we’ve had, where healthCos generate profits based on ‘transactional costs’ (each prescription payment they process, each lab fee they process, each physician diagnosis they process) is to move to a wellness model.

The wellness model is NOT based on transactional fees.
It has to bring overall costs down by focusing on ‘wellness practices’ that cover the whole range of human activities — and it produces far better outcomes over time for a population. Which is why it’s the model going forward.

But to get there, we have to break up the monopolies that healthCos have in American life.
It’s about economic wellness.
But it’s also about personal ‘wellness’ – it’s a much healthier model for everyone, at any age, no matter what their preexisting conditions may be.

(The thing is, it does require far better information coordination, and that’s why you create a whole new bunch of jobs related to medical IT. My spouse gets results about his blood tests via his email, because his provider network has heavily invested in online information. If he is routed to a specialist, they can call up all his prior tests, meds, etc. So it improves diagnostic information greatly, which then improves health outcomes.)

As is obvious from this thread, I’m pretty passionate about this whole nexis of topics.

Then the Exchange (as I understand it) has authority and clout to negotiate coverage plans.
Which means, there’d be a cop on the beat.
Currently, it is run by very well-dressed, affluent gangstas.