rather than putting on a funny hat and trying to be the terminology police, why not put some effort into refuting
Neill’s thesis, namely:

Dims (aka the Democrats of the Democratic Party) are bought by the corporations, too

’cause, y’know, thats the root of the problem here.

oh the demos will look tough but they will fold like a deck of cards

they know who butters their bread come election time

give up your demo card and become an independent voter

the demos no longer represent you

wake up smell the stink in wash

it is a swamp ie corp fascism

i’m always open to accepting ways of doing A; but in your case, given the linguist essentialism that burns yer hide, i’ll take B…

I don’t resent you. You’re not worth a moment’s feeling.

I do resent what you represent, because it’s no better than the shit you’re railing against.

Grow up, or go away.

here we go:

my view is that Dims (aka the Democrats of the Democratic Party) are bought by the corporations, too — similar to the Repugnants (aka the Republicans of the Republican Party). It is just that some have consciences and wish they weren’t bought by the corporations. Okay? That’s me with the J-P Sartre motif of “bad conscience.” And I said, I wish they weren’t.

Now I said thatthe whole “bad conscience” thesis does not work any better than (yes) the flamethrower’s “stalinist purge of 1972″ but it was the way i felt about the Dims.

I also closed in my responde to your #45 in agreement that Maxine, Frank, De Fazio, et al were a heck better’n any Repugnants and i was with you on that.

But perhaps, like flamethrower, you think i am not pure enough. good for you…

i do a few things. i do a lot locally — little things, things i can do.

i get word out about how i see the world.

how screwed up the corporations are making it, because that is what they need to do. that is how they work. no one has figured out how to tell them to stop and do it differently. so it may all have to collapse.

i think so. i hope it does before i die so i can help try to rebuild and not leave the whole mess to my kids and grandkids.

i still push and push and push and push “obama and them” — luckily, in most areas, da fazio is already out there…but i’ll give ron the dickens and the strokes, and maybe a few bucks… our new senator, too, merkley is helpful. they aint maxine or barbara lee, but they’re good guys.

It’s not entirely pointless, but it is just annoying.

The Republicans in Congress stand on the House floor and call the Democratic Party the “Democrat Party” all the time as a way of winking knowingly to the least development members of humanity, er, the base of the Republican Party.

Maybe, just maybe, this is enough justification for Democrats like me to respond by calling them members of the “Republeak Party” as we all smile knowing to each other, knowing that that means that they’re a bunch of fucking evil idiots who have no ideas for improving our country, who like to have sex with married employees and then ask mommy and daddy to pay off a mistress’s family or with anonymous men in public bathrooms or with prostitutes, and who only want to rape the country in the name of helping thousands of executives achieve riches beyond the dreams of avarice at the expense of millions and millions of Americans.

We might be justified in modifying the name of their Party as a way of defining them negatively, seeing how they do it to Democrats from the House floor daily.

But being called a ‘dim’ is just not acceptable.

I don’t recall ever calling anyone a Stalinist in my entire life, and I have no idea what “1950s existentialist ‘bad conscience’ politicos” even means.

But please do look at my comment to you @ 45 again, or don’t.

If wishes were horses … then all politicians would ride into the legacy class (for them and theirs) without having to compromise their precious little souls … and sell off bits of their virtue for embarrassingly tiny sums …

However, the dear, artificial ”persons” (created and empowered by and through the whims of an American federal court clerk, without ANY basis in ”settled” law, at all), will tolerate nothing less than EVERYTHING, that being their sole and only legal brief – ”Make lots and lots of money, for it is divine and surely the virtuous will be rewarded for the cleverness with which they part people from their money and their lives, all in the name of good, clean free-enterprise, American democracy, and God-inspired Capitalism.”

There is nothing to be seen, anywhere in our ravaged political landscape, about creating actual wealth or building and maintaining a civil society, because then, by force of expectation and tradition, politicians would have to act from principle and not automatically plan on becoming lobbyists to butter-up other members of The Club.

Does either ”major” political party currently extant in this nation, or their ”leadership”, exhibit any inclination to actually move in that direction, either leading or following?

There may be ”regret”, but conscience has not yet stirred sufficiently to DO anything …

What other measure than the ”doing” of humanly necessary ”change” has any true meaning but abject and cynical failure and the refusal to confront the dis-comfort of reality?