Since I got my hands on the one-page document outlining Carper’s weird hybrid “alternative,” I’ve had a chance to study the proposal in greater detail. After careful examination, I’ve determined that it would literally be worse than nothing.
As I see it, there is currently nothing legally preventing the states from implementing any of the three possibilities right now. I’ve read for example that Maine attempted to create a form of quasi-public health insurance. Iowa recently experimented with encouraging the creation of new health insurance co-ops. To my knowledge, both ideals were failures. State sponsored health insurance purchasing co-ops have been tried in the past, and do not reduce premiums.
The Carper amendment wouldn’t permit anything which is not currently allowed; so it appears that Carper’s amendment would then be worthless. . . but take a closer look, and you will see that it is worse than worthless. Carper’s plan would, in fact, restrict what states currently could do.
The amendment says:
This would allow a state to offer a state public option; however, both the executive and state legislature would have to agree.
Most states (I believe every state) allows a law to be passed over the veto of the governor if it can get a super majority in the state legislature. By requiring both the executive and state legislature to agree, the amendment is placing an even higher standard than what is current law in order to create a state public option.
The amendment would place restrictions how the public plan could be run.
Regardless of the mechanism chosen, the state would be bound by the same insurance regulations and benefit requirements as private plans in the exchange. The mechanism would have to be completely self financed, aside from initial seed funding, and would be required to have a reserve fund in the same manner that private plans have. The mechanism could not explicitly require doctors to participate, nor use provider participation in Medicare or other public programs to force participation. Additionally, the state could not use Medicare or Medicaid style price controls or rates – they would have to negotiate rates.
If a state started a public plan today, they would not be required to follow all of these restrictions.
Finally, Carper’s amendment would strongly limit who could uses this new state public plans or co-op:
The state mechanism would only be open to individuals who were eligible to acquire coverage through the exchange.
Once again, states can already help create insurance co-ops. They don’t need to restrict who can sign up for insurance co-ops. There are currently non-profit health insurance co-ops in this country which are able to sign up everyone, not just people on the individual or small group market.
Carper’s Amendment does not increase a state’s ability to encourage greater competition, it cripples them. The amendment says it would provide seed money for co-ops. It is unclear if it would also provide any (or sufficient) seed money to start the state-based public plan. Seed money is the only possible advantage in the amendment, but probably couldn’t make up for the crippling restrictions.
I would like to congratulate Senator Carper. He managed to come up with an “alternative” to the public option that could literally be worse than nothing at all.





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Blazing Amendments! Starring Jon Walker
Thanks for all your work, Jon.
Citizen Eureka Springs:
“Blazing Amendments” indeed!! This is just the beginning of a 3 week public runway walk with Kabuki background players…the real wheeling and deal-making is gunna come when the Dems get together and fashion a bill to bring to the floor…let’s start lookin’ toward the House of Representatives and see if Grayson and the progressives have kicked Pelosi into gear yet!
p.s. Yeah, thanks Jon…now can you put together a little seminar post about what the procedure is in gettin each one of these bills out of their respective houses and where “reconcilliation” comes into this whole mess. I’m on record as believin’ that the Dems in the Senate are gunna get 60+ votes for cloture.
How much are you willing to bet?
All this flailing around is ridiculous. Everyone is pretending to do something and it amounts to zero.
Thumbs in ears, eyes closed. Lalalalala. I don’t wanna hear it.
The moment that the Senate Finance Committee votes on their “work” and we know the shape of their bill is the moment that Pelosi and the House Democrats need to toss their healthcare bill on the floor and start the train moving. That will put their floor actions in the foreground while the Senate dickers about its bill. And the passage of their bill will put a stake in the ground and drive Harkin’s direction in moving forward to strip out a lot of garbage in the Baucus bill. Once the Senate bill is on the floor, members of the Democratic Caucus can no longer hide behind the GOP opposition.
The whole medical care debate is a colossal failure for the Ds and a colossal win for the Rs. Just my prediction on the train wreck that Obama was key in creating.
IIRC, Grayson never popped up in a good way on the old FDL Action whip list.
Sure hope he’s gunning for PO or No now.
Have no recollection of Grayson’s history. But he sure is my hero de jour. As many of my heroes develop feet of clay, I’m holding my breath and keeping my fingers crossed.
grayson hasn’t even signed up as a cosponsor for hr 676. how hard is that?
seriously, i cheered his “apology” when i heard it live on cspan and i’m glad he raised over a hundred thousand dollars for doing it. but unless he backs it up his words with actions, i’m going to see it as a stunt. a useful and enjoyable bit of theater to be sure. but still a stunt.
supporting only legislation that continues to leave millions without healthcare and condemns thousands to death each year is not good enough.
Here’s some Grayson history.
Here’s some more.
And one more.
wyden may be my hero for the day.
if there’s always clay feet maybe it’s part of being human?
Not sure if anyone from OH here, but Boner is on teevee saying no one that he has talked to is in support of the public option.
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Poor thing doesn’t get out much. He’s such an idiot.
I guess he’s too busy to step out of the tanning booth. Idiot is far too kind a word for what he is.
Me too.
I completely agree with you, Jon. Ezra was way too easy on this “plan”–although I think it might have been to get the senator to agree to an interview, during which Carper proved to everyone what an ass he is.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/
It’s got to be tan in the can.
he’s got a lot of tan in his can
but mostly it covers his soul
It also looks to me that by requiring the ‘executive’ to agree to a given state-level insurance offering, this law is offering, in perpetuity, the means for a state’s governor to just junk the whole system at any time, for any reason. No legislative involvement required.
I mean, let’s say it’s January 2013 and Governor Haterbot (R-obviously) immediately decrees that he doesn’t think there should be any public insurance option, thereby canceling the policies of everybody currently in the system. Or the Governator deciding to ‘terminate’ the coverage for everyone currently in the CA system, because of a budget impasse.
Seriously, as I read the amendment, there’s nothing to stop an incoming governor from canceling the entire thing. It’s like a perpetual right-to-veto.
If this becomes law it will be worthy of its own giant Mission Accomplished banner.
It is not going to work in California, that’s for sure.
Senators Rockefeller, Schumer, Stabenow and Widen of the Senate Finance Committee Sub-committee on Health, did a great job of pointing out that the Medical Industrial Complex’s contribution to Health Care Reform, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is $20 BILLION and in return they will get $500 BILLION in TAX-PAYER FUNDED SUBSIDIES. Democratic Senators baucus, conrad, carper, lincoln and nelson voted with the republicans to kill the public option 09-29-09.
Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations. Time for publically funded elections.
lieberman $12.6M, mcconnell $7.8M, baucus $7.7M, cornyn $6.7M,
kyl $5.6M, grassley $5.4M, ensign $5.2M, conrad $5.1M, cantor $4.9M,
nelson $4.9M, burr $4.8M, boehner $4.4M, hatch $4.4M, lincoln $4.1M,
vitter $3.9M, carper $3.6M were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform. (Source: OpenSecrets.org, Aug. 09)
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