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	<title>Comments on: GOP Introduces Resolution to Censure Grayson – Debate at 2pm</title>
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		<title>By: glasseater</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-50110</link>
		<dc:creator>glasseater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I live in Tom Price’s district and just sent him the below email.  May be a little late now, but it will be fun to see how he responds.  I actually think Grayson’s comments were great, but that wouldn’t help my case in the email!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dear Congressman Price:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was pleased to see that you are considering introducing a resolution to censure Rep. Alan Grayson of Florida in response to his comments earlier this week about the Republican approach to health care reform.  Over the top, incendiary comments have no place in our politics.  That is why I am writing to you today.  There have been a number of other Members who have made what I consider to be similarly incendiary comments on the House floor, and I wanted to make you aware of these statements.  The examples I am aware of are as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite of Florida said in July that the Democratic health care bill “essentially said to America’s seniors: drop dead.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia said in July that the adoption of a publicly funded health care plan would “kill people.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Rep. Virginia Foxx of North Carolina suggested that proposed reforms would “put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sure you will agree with me that these comments are just as reprehensible and deserve no less condemnation than Rep. Grayson’s comments this week.  With that in mind, I strongly urge you to add these three Members to your censure resolution.  Doing so would go a long way toward bringing the health care debate back to a responsible and reasonable level of dialogue.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your consideration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Tom Price’s district and just sent him the below email.  May be a little late now, but it will be fun to see how he responds.  I actually think Grayson’s comments were great, but that wouldn’t help my case in the email!</p>
<p>Dear Congressman Price:</p>
<p>I was pleased to see that you are considering introducing a resolution to censure Rep. Alan Grayson of Florida in response to his comments earlier this week about the Republican approach to health care reform.  Over the top, incendiary comments have no place in our politics.  That is why I am writing to you today.  There have been a number of other Members who have made what I consider to be similarly incendiary comments on the House floor, and I wanted to make you aware of these statements.  The examples I am aware of are as follows:</p>
<p>-Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite of Florida said in July that the Democratic health care bill “essentially said to America’s seniors: drop dead.”</p>
<p>-Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia said in July that the adoption of a publicly funded health care plan would “kill people.”</p>
<p>-Rep. Virginia Foxx of North Carolina suggested that proposed reforms would “put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government.”</p>
<p>I am sure you will agree with me that these comments are just as reprehensible and deserve no less condemnation than Rep. Grayson’s comments this week.  With that in mind, I strongly urge you to add these three Members to your censure resolution.  Doing so would go a long way toward bringing the health care debate back to a responsible and reasonable level of dialogue.  </p>
<p>Thank you for your consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: siri</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49835</link>
		<dc:creator>siri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s funny, Betsy!&lt;br /&gt;
AND I DID throw what is in my world a sizeable amount to Grayson, and will do so again each and every time he actually says on the floor what I’m yelling at the TV!!!&lt;br /&gt;
THIS is a man to keep an eye on!&lt;br /&gt;
s&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s funny, Betsy!<br />
AND I DID throw what is in my world a sizeable amount to Grayson, and will do so again each and every time he actually says on the floor what I’m yelling at the TV!!!<br />
THIS is a man to keep an eye on!<br />
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49766</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To get to the other side?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To hold his pants up?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get to the other side?</p>
<p>To hold his pants up?</p>
<p>…?</p>
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		<title>By: albertchampion</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49764</link>
		<dc:creator>albertchampion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;here is the salient question….why is grayson the most unique demtillian in the congress?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is the salient question….why is grayson the most unique demtillian in the congress?</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49761</link>
		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have no indication that the health insurers are spreading risk in the actuarial sense, rather they do everything they can to shed and avoid risk.  They effectively pool profit not risk.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The for-profit insurance model for health care is a contrivance.  The individual mandate is probably unconstitutional.  The only way health care costs are going to come down is if not for profit operations are able to create risk pools big enough to drive down costs for everyone.  The larger the pool, the better the price.  But there are problems when there is but one primary competitor, single payer, because then there is no competition.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But wait!  There is an out here, as government run health care is the responsibility of people who we elect to office, and bringing health care finance into the private sector will make it a consumer and political issue.   Who needs market competition when we can replace nameless, faceless members of insurer boards of directors with the US Congress?  Imagine, the marketplace of ideas fashioning health policy rather than anonymous insurance executives with captive markets.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have no indication that the health insurers are spreading risk in the actuarial sense, rather they do everything they can to shed and avoid risk.  They effectively pool profit not risk.</p>
<p>The for-profit insurance model for health care is a contrivance.  The individual mandate is probably unconstitutional.  The only way health care costs are going to come down is if not for profit operations are able to create risk pools big enough to drive down costs for everyone.  The larger the pool, the better the price.  But there are problems when there is but one primary competitor, single payer, because then there is no competition.  </p>
<p>But wait!  There is an out here, as government run health care is the responsibility of people who we elect to office, and bringing health care finance into the private sector will make it a consumer and political issue.   Who needs market competition when we can replace nameless, faceless members of insurer boards of directors with the US Congress?  Imagine, the marketplace of ideas fashioning health policy rather than anonymous insurance executives with captive markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriele</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49747</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you Alan Grayson, you are my hero. Thank you for standing up and telling the truth. I salute you!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Alan Grayson, you are my hero. Thank you for standing up and telling the truth. I salute you!</p>
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		<title>By: openhope</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49744</link>
		<dc:creator>openhope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grayson has a good post up at DailyKos {sorry can’t link].&lt;br /&gt;
 I put in $10 on that dog fight. Go Grayson! Thank you for speaking truth firmly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grayson has a good post up at DailyKos {sorry can’t link].<br />
 I put in $10 on that dog fight. Go Grayson! Thank you for speaking truth firmly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mile23</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49738</link>
		<dc:creator>Mile23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It might be better to censure Republicans, as well. Introduce similar motions against those who lied about ‘death panels’ for instance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a dance. Do it back. Republicans want to waste time, let’s waste time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be better to censure Republicans, as well. Introduce similar motions against those who lied about ‘death panels’ for instance.</p>
<p>It’s a dance. Do it back. Republicans want to waste time, let’s waste time.</p>
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		<title>By: scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, the White House is calling Fox and Back out for lying (using the “L” word, even).  So, why should any Dem knuckle under to this latest iteration of REthug idiocy?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/white-house-calls-out-fox-by-name-for-lying.php?ref=fpa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Go read.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, the White House is calling Fox and Back out for lying (using the “L” word, even).  So, why should any Dem knuckle under to this latest iteration of REthug idiocy?</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/white-house-calls-out-fox-by-name-for-lying.php?ref=fpa" rel="nofollow">Go read.</a></p>
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		<title>By: whataretheysmoking</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/30/gop-introduces-resolution-to-censure-grayson-debate-at-2pm/#comment-49719</link>
		<dc:creator>whataretheysmoking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://http//www.northfulton.com/Blog-3500.112113-7672.114126_Tom_Price_praises_Joe_Wilson.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tom price on joe wilson&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), leader of House conservatives, invoked Samuel Adams: “It doesn’t take a majority to prevail, but an irate and tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men. Thank you so much for setting those brush fires.” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://http//www.northfulton.com/Blog-3500.112113-7672.114126_Tom_Price_praises_Joe_Wilson.html" rel="nofollow">tom price on joe wilson</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), leader of House conservatives, invoked Samuel Adams: “It doesn’t take a majority to prevail, but an irate and tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men. Thank you so much for setting those brush fires.” </p>
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