Comments on: A Brief History of the Blue Dogs and the Public Option http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:48:45 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: MarkH http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48352 MarkH Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:43:51 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48352 <p>Fat lot of good it did Ross (BlueDog-Arkansas).</p> <p>I think the Blue Dogs should be happy to make a statement that through their efforts the size of the reform has been limited to make it fiscally sound and yet a good step forward for America. And they should thank Spkr. Pelosi and Pres. Obama for working with them.</p> <p>Everybody should end up with some credit for the tremendous coalition that has to be formed to pass legislation of this significance.</p> <p>I think there would be a handful of Republicans who would be happy to vote for this were it not for party politics. I remain hopeful we’ll get a few, but I’m not holding my breath.</p> <p>I think we’re in the endgame and we’re very close to having the votes locked up. The legislation itself may take a bit of time because it’s got so many moving parts. But, I think there is a growing consensus that the right parts are there.</p> Fat lot of good it did Ross (BlueDog-Arkansas).

I think the Blue Dogs should be happy to make a statement that through their efforts the size of the reform has been limited to make it fiscally sound and yet a good step forward for America. And they should thank Spkr. Pelosi and Pres. Obama for working with them.

Everybody should end up with some credit for the tremendous coalition that has to be formed to pass legislation of this significance.

I think there would be a handful of Republicans who would be happy to vote for this were it not for party politics. I remain hopeful we’ll get a few, but I’m not holding my breath.

I think we’re in the endgame and we’re very close to having the votes locked up. The legislation itself may take a bit of time because it’s got so many moving parts. But, I think there is a growing consensus that the right parts are there.

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48227 Eureka Springs Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:41:45 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48227 <p>Fantastic work and post Jane and all who pitched in.</p> <p>I wonder if there is a way to calculate the costs mandates without a PO will / would cost in subsidies compared to the cost of subsidies which paid into a PO? Of course Ross and Co.. tried their best to hide this by cutting it off at the knees.. forcing rates to match (not compete with) private insurance.</p> Fantastic work and post Jane and all who pitched in.

I wonder if there is a way to calculate the costs mandates without a PO will / would cost in subsidies compared to the cost of subsidies which paid into a PO? Of course Ross and Co.. tried their best to hide this by cutting it off at the knees.. forcing rates to match (not compete with) private insurance.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48226 ThingsComeUndone Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:28:12 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48226 <p>Moderate at the Lake is to the Left of the Blue dogs Heck on the issues the majority of Americans are to the Left of the Politicians of both parties:)<br /> Still a reasonable polite letter will work better than a rant and my strength is rants.</p> Moderate at the Lake is to the Left of the Blue dogs Heck on the issues the majority of Americans are to the Left of the Politicians of both parties:)
Still a reasonable polite letter will work better than a rant and my strength is rants.

]]> By: Mithras61 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48225 Mithras61 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:24:20 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48225 <p>You bet. Not trying to poke fun at your excellent letter, but things like that catch my eye (I do proofreading as part of my job).</p> You bet. Not trying to poke fun at your excellent letter, but things like that catch my eye (I do proofreading as part of my job).

]]> By: Knoxville http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48224 Knoxville Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:22:25 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48224 <p>I guess I’m moderate, though I’m only good at feigning ‘reasonable’ :)</p> <p>Funny that I supported Hillary Clinton during the primaries, which in retrospect seems like the more moderate choice, and have been brought around to Barack Obama since he took office while many of those who supported him during the primaries appear to be most unhappy with him since he took office.</p> <p>I guess I’m just a moderate. NOW GIVE US THE FUCKING PUBLIC OPTION!</p> <p>Thank you.</p> I guess I’m moderate, though I’m only good at feigning ‘reasonable’ :)

Funny that I supported Hillary Clinton during the primaries, which in retrospect seems like the more moderate choice, and have been brought around to Barack Obama since he took office while many of those who supported him during the primaries appear to be most unhappy with him since he took office.

I guess I’m just a moderate. NOW GIVE US THE FUCKING PUBLIC OPTION!

Thank you.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48223 ThingsComeUndone Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:17:39 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48223 <p>Well I would rant more I have an overdeveloped sense of vengence but they would dismiss me as a kook a reasonable moderate voter writing a letter scares Blue Dogs more than me.<br /> Reasonable is what they <em>imagine</em> their base to be. And if being Moderate in tone works in this battlefield then yes use it.<br /> We all have our bits to play in the struggle. Mine is here.</p> Well I would rant more I have an overdeveloped sense of vengence but they would dismiss me as a kook a reasonable moderate voter writing a letter scares Blue Dogs more than me.
Reasonable is what they imagine their base to be. And if being Moderate in tone works in this battlefield then yes use it.
We all have our bits to play in the struggle. Mine is here.

]]> By: alank http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48222 alank Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:16:06 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48222 <p>If you <a href="http://www.bing.com" rel="nofollow">Bing</a> firedoglog you get this site:</p> <p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/10/131758/013" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/10/131758/013</a></p> If you Bing firedoglog you get this site:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/10/131758/013

]]> By: Knoxville http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48221 Knoxville Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:14:28 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48221 <p>Corrected paragraph:<br /></p><blockquote> <p>From what I am learning about the health care debate in Washington from several sources, including Jane Hamsher at FireDogLake, you are the leader… </p></blockquote> <p>Good? Thanks again!</p> Corrected paragraph:

From what I am learning about the health care debate in Washington from several sources, including Jane Hamsher at FireDogLake, you are the leader…

Good? Thanks again!

]]> By: Knoxville http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48220 Knoxville Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:10:48 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48220 <p>This is exaclty why I ask for help!!!!!</p> <p>Thank you for catching that. I type fast and when I reread my eye goes right over stupid mistakes like “FireDogLog.” ROFLOL</p> This is exaclty why I ask for help!!!!!

Thank you for catching that. I type fast and when I reread my eye goes right over stupid mistakes like “FireDogLog.” ROFLOL

]]> By: Leen http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48219 Leen Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:09:30 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/28/a-brief-history-of-the-blue-dogs-and-the-public-optoin/#comment-48219 <p>Jane and Team outstanding article. Thanks for all you folks are doing!</p> <p>Congressman Charile Wilson (Oh) sixth district basically ran on Former Congressman (now Governor of Ohio) Ted Strickland’s coattails) Telling us that he would be voting as Strickland would have done if he was still our Rep. Many of us have not been happy campers with some of Wilsons votes.</p> <p>When I have called Wilson’s office (which I will do again today) they have been wobbly on the PO.</p> <p>Congressman Zack Space (Oh 18th district) has many people in this district struggling with unemployment, poor pay for the jobs they do have and lack of health insurance. Not clear on just what his argument against the Public option is.</p> <p>Will be encouraging fold to call and write both of those offices to push, encourage both Wilson and Space to give into what is good for the people… Public Option.</p> <p>As Wendell Potter has repeatedly said anything less than the public option is a ” Insurance Industy Profit Protection and Enhancement Act”</p> <p>What many of us stood by for years is the Single Payer plan. We all know the Public Option is the compromise.</p> <p>Folks the “Mad As Hell Doctors” are still traveling speaking out for Single Payer. If they are in your neighborhood please go see them. Please call your local media outlets and ask them to cover these Doctors trip if they are coming to your town.<br /><a href="http://www.madashelldoctors.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.madashelldoctors.com/</a></p> <p>Anyone willing to contact the Diane Rehm show and ask Diane to have them on this week in D.C. they arrive on Wednesday. Diane has a To be Announced (TBA) slots opened on Wednesday and Thursday.</p> <p>Comment line for the Diane Rehm Show 202- 885-1231<br /> Or<br /><a href="http://wamu.org/programs/dr/contact_us.php" rel="nofollow">http://wamu.org/programs/dr/contact_us.php</a></p> <p>WOULD JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES…ASK HER TO HAVE THE MAD AS HELL DOCTORS ON HER PROGRAM THIS WEEK</p> Jane and Team outstanding article. Thanks for all you folks are doing!

Congressman Charile Wilson (Oh) sixth district basically ran on Former Congressman (now Governor of Ohio) Ted Strickland’s coattails) Telling us that he would be voting as Strickland would have done if he was still our Rep. Many of us have not been happy campers with some of Wilsons votes.

When I have called Wilson’s office (which I will do again today) they have been wobbly on the PO.

Congressman Zack Space (Oh 18th district) has many people in this district struggling with unemployment, poor pay for the jobs they do have and lack of health insurance. Not clear on just what his argument against the Public option is.

Will be encouraging fold to call and write both of those offices to push, encourage both Wilson and Space to give into what is good for the people… Public Option.

As Wendell Potter has repeatedly said anything less than the public option is a ” Insurance Industy Profit Protection and Enhancement Act”

What many of us stood by for years is the Single Payer plan. We all know the Public Option is the compromise.

Folks the “Mad As Hell Doctors” are still traveling speaking out for Single Payer. If they are in your neighborhood please go see them. Please call your local media outlets and ask them to cover these Doctors trip if they are coming to your town.
http://www.madashelldoctors.com/

Anyone willing to contact the Diane Rehm show and ask Diane to have them on this week in D.C. they arrive on Wednesday. Diane has a To be Announced (TBA) slots opened on Wednesday and Thursday.

Comment line for the Diane Rehm Show 202- 885-1231
Or
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/contact_us.php

WOULD JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES…ASK HER TO HAVE THE MAD AS HELL DOCTORS ON HER PROGRAM THIS WEEK

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