Recently, Nancy Pelosi said that she counted about 20 Blue Dogs who would support a public option. Blue Dog chair Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin disagreed:
"There was some suggestion that there were 20," Herseth Sandlin said. "There clearly are not. From the numbers that I have seen, although not everyone has submitted the surveys, even if they had and they all said yes it wouldn’t be 20. Right now it’s less than a dozen."
It’s a significant figure, because if Herseth-Sandlin is right, the Blue Dogs probably have the ability to block a public option. If Pelosi is right, they don’t.
There are 53 members of the Blue Dog caucus. It takes 40 Democrats to keep any bill from passing. If Herseth-Sandlin loses 20 members, her hand collapses.
As an inveterate vote counter, my antenna went up when she said a "dozen." That figure may well be correct, but if it is, the Blue Dog position has become completely incoherent and they’ve had so many members change their minds so many times that no one should regard them as "principled" in the common sense of the word. They seem rather to move in a helter skelter fashion to reflect whatever the lobbyist strategy of the day is for maximizing corporate looting of the health care bill, and any expectation that they will reflect what their constituents want is futile.
So without further ado (but with much thanks to the volunteers who helped me put the information together), here is a brief history of the Blue Dogs and the public option:
January 2009 – There are 20 members of the Blue Dog coalition among the 190 members of Congress who signed on to the principles of Health Care for America Now. By my recollection, most of them had done so by January of this year. Among the principles:
- A choice of a private insurance plan, including keeping the insurance you have if you like it, or a public insurance plan without a private insurer middleman that guarantees affordable coverage.
- Health coverage through the largest possible pools in order to achieve affordable, quality coverage for the entire population and to share risk fairly.
- Effective cost controls that promote quality, lower administrative costs and long term financial sustainability, including: standard claims forms, secure electronic medical records, using the public’s purchasing power to instill greater reliance on evidence-based protocols and lower drug and device prices, better management and treatment of chronic diseases and a public role in deciding where money is invested in health care.
Public, public public. Nothing about "protecting insurance industry profits." Nothing about "if after we give the insurance industry a chance to get it together and they fail" (triggers). Nothing about small, balkanized state co-ops that were as yet a twinkle in Kent Conrad’s eye, but rather support for using the purchasing power of a large pool to keep costs down.
Among the 20 were Mike Ross, Chairman of the Blue Dog Health Care Task Force, and Jim Cooper, who is a member of the Task Force. The other Blue Dogs who signed it were: Jason Altmire (Penn.), Patrick Murphy (Penn.), Michael Arcuri (N.Y.), Joe Baca (Calif.), Loretta Sanchez (Calif.), Marion Berry (Ark.), Sanford Bishop (Ga.), Leonard Boswell (Iowa), Chris Carney (Penn.), Ben Chandler (Ky.), Jane Harman, (Calif.), Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (S.D.), Tim Holden (Penn.), Frank Kratovil (Md.), Adam Schiff (Calif.), Zack Space (Ohio), Mike Thompson (Calif.) and Charlie Wilson (Ohio).
January — White House Chief of Staff (and Blue Dog patron) Rahm Emanuel, who "runs the [health care] campaign out of his West Wing office," begins "floating" the idea of triggers, which would render any health care reform meaningless.
May 11 – Forty-five Blue Dogs led by Mike Ross write a letter to the House Committee chairmen responsible for drafting the health care bill, saying that they are concerned that they have been left out of the process. With good reason — the Sunlight Foundation released a report the next day on the enormous health care lobby contributions being made to Blue Dog campaigns.
But what were they expected to deliver? Well, the health care industry stakeholders presented their proposals for $2 trillion in voluntary cost reductions to the White House on the same day. Which turned out to be fantasy savings. But with the exception of the PhRMA deal, we never got to find out what the White House promised in return. But to the extent that those deals are known, the Blue Dogs have been critical to stovepipeing them into the House bill.
June 8 – Here’s where it starts to get incoherent. The Blue Dogs release a "statement of principles" on health care reform, co-authored by members of the Health Care Task Force including Mike Ross and Jim Cooper.
It says that a public option must adhere to the same rules and regulations as all other plans: "community rating; guaranteed issue; limits on marketing; risk adjustment; pre-existing condition exclusions; and transparency." This would later be the "goody bag" (as Marc Ambinder dubbed it) that would comprise the President’s sales pitch for health care reform in August.
But it also said that a public option "would occur only as a fallback and in the absence of adequate competition and cost containment….should the private plans fail to meet specific availability and cost targets, a public option would be triggered and be allowed to compete on a level playing field subject to the conditions outlined above." Yeah triggers.
As Ryan Grim of the Huffington Post noted, this represented a complete turnaround for both Cooper and Ross, who had been signatories to the HCAN principles trumpeting the virtues of a public plan.
July 7 – Rahm tells the Wall Street Journal the White House is open to triggers. Obama yo-yos it back. They get to have it both ways: health insurance stocks surge on Rahm’s statement, and Obama gets love for ostensibly smacking him down.
July 8 – A letter from 22 Democratic House freshmen is sent to Steny Hoyer on the importance of having a strong public option, one that is tied to "an established provider network, like Medicare" (PDF). Among the signatories are Blue Dogs Leonard Boswell, Joe Baca, Mike Michaud and Adam Schiff.
July 9 — The very next day, more incoherence: A letter from 40 Blue Dogs states their concern that "a Medicare-like’ public option would negatively impact hospitals doctors and patients." A letter from 29 members of the New Democrat Coalition expressing concern about Medicare rural reimbursement rates follows shortly thereafter. Weirdly, the Blue Dog letter is cosigned by Mike Michaud and Leonard Boswell, who also signed the letter insisting on a Medicare-like provider network as part of a public option only the day before.
July 9 — 70 Democrats, including the Blue Dogs who are supposedly so given to "cost containment," sign a letter telling Henry Waxman to swap out his prescription drug plan for the one the White House negotiated with PhRMA. Cost to taxpayers: $63 billion.
July 17 – Both the House Ways & Means Committee and the Health & Labor Commite vote on H.R. 3200 with a public plan tied to Medicare rates. On Ways & Means, Blue Dog Mike Thompson votes "yes" while Earl Pomeroy and John Tanner vote "no." On Health & Labor, Blue Dog Jason Altmire votes "no."
Jult 21 — Mike Ross and his fellow Blue Dogs meet with the White House, demanding that any public plan must not be tied to Medicare reimbursement rates. He later brags about holding the bill "hostage" on the Energy & Commerce Committee for 10 day.
July 26 — Jim Cooper writes an op-ed stating that he doesn’t support the public option contained in the House bill, he supports some "fantasy" public option that doesn’t exist. And brags about how much better he and his fellow Blue Dogs are making the bill.
July 31 — Mike Ross submits a co-op amendment to the Energy & Commerce bill. It passes. The language is identical to that which appears in the Baucus bill in September, authored by a former Wellpoint executive.
August 1 — Ross cuts a deal for H.R. 3200 to pass the Energy & Commerce Committee, with reimbursement rates no longer tied to Medicare. The CBO will later estimate that these Blue Dog changes Jim Cooper was bragging about will actually add $85 billion to the cost of the bill over the next 10 years. Blue Dogs Ross, Jane Harman, Baron Hill and Bart Gordon all vote for it.
August 17 — Jim Cooper plays word games, insists that "co-ops" are a public option much like rural electrical co-ops that "worked really pretty well over all the country for 70 or 80 years." But only last year, Cooper blasted the rural electric co-op model, saying that they had become "anti-consumer" and were cheating them out of money.
September 8 — Mike Ross says he can "no longer support a public option."
One thing is certain: "fiscal responsibility" is the last thing the Blue Dogs are interested in. Their prescription drug and Medicare positions alone add $148 billion to the cost of the bill without adding any value, and their insistence on "paygo" means those cost gets passed on directly to consumers in the form of higher premiums.
Stay tuned for Part II: 24 Blue Dogs Have Said That They Support a Public Option
Many thanks to the researchers who worked tirelessly to help compile this information: Amy, Kate, Jim, Pat, Jon Walker and Scarecrow.




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Ah Yes! Once again, the Democrats never fail to hand the Republicans a victory. Embarassing.
Reasons change the desire for lobbyist cash stays the same.
Why do I get this feeling of foreboding. Like Dems will have to be doing there own introspection at “what went wrong” sometime in the near future.
It seems the best strategy either party has for regaining power is to do absolutely nothing while the majority party shoots themselves in the foot.
It just seems Democrats do it little faster.
Has Rahm ever accomplished anything besides leaking news that pisses us off? I’m thinking that while Rahm might have crazy ideas we are right to worry about however have any of his plans ever come to be?
I’m thinking Rahm backing something is like Bush giving a speech on the economy (odds are the market went down that day).
I’m thinking Rahm backing a project might mean its doomed? I’m sure this runs counter to his MSM given Chicago Fixerrep but facts are facts.
And I’m not recalling a single Rahm win. Maybe I should be on the Lake more?:)
Rahm thinks he’s 13-0 in wins, or something like that. A “win” does not mean what you think it means.
Holy shit! This is great! Did we ever discover yesterday who that 40th signature was?
Sorry Jane about sounding so negative about this post. It’s a great summation of blue dog history but I seem to be wired to interpret information into the “macro” view. It’s clear that the Blue Dogs are corrupt and hold their own personal interests above what is good for the nation. I just gets me how Democrats have 40+ of these in the House and Republicans have a lot less– same in the senate. Arrrrrgh!
I think killing a weak healthcare plan now embarrasses the President in ways he can’t afford and shows our strength if we can hold the line.
I’m thinking Obama and most of all Rahm don’t want to hand us that kind of win. I’m thinking the longer this issue is talked about the better for us.
Lets see the GOP and Blue Dogs argue for 50,000 more troops (last threads topic) when they are saying we can’t afford healthcare now for everyone.
I want them to argue that position on TV I want every blue dog GOP spending bill to be a call for us to mention how can we afford this but not healthcare.
I want House and Senate leadership to say vote for healthcare or No! Pork ever!
Who said First, shoot all the lawyers? It seems that needs changed to Lobbyists. Your comment on futility sounds really gloomy. Have you been talking to Teddy?
Still, and all, thank you for keeping tabs on all this. Reading through your whole post, my head began to swim. If we can make no mark oh how the bill finally plays out, yes, we can follow the politician’s records and know where to put pressure in the future elections. Is that the game plan?
Stay tuned for Part II: The Body Count. Where does each Blue Dog stand?
Can we really know? With some undoubtedly adopting the Ross bullshit that there are a zillion ways to define “public option” and some just willing to cave (”don’t let perfect be enemy of good”)
Oh I don’t think that’s a bad evaluation — I just think that we ought to begin analyzing their behavior in its proper context. Rahm would have you believe they are “representing their districts” here. They aren’t.
Let’s be honest about it. And if their 2010 opponents pick that up, well, that’s life isn’t it?
Actually, the Repubs ARE the equivalent of the Blue Weasels, so the count in the Senate alone is 40 corrupt SOBs for the R’s.
Channeling Rahm What Inconceivable! (I loved the Princess Bride)
Oh, Hi Things. I was just thinking about that back and forth scene in the Princess Bride too.
Good morning, Jane!
May I suggest that we each take a moment to send Speaker Pelosi an email at http://www.speaker.gov to express our hope that she continues to apply pressure to the Blue Dogs.
From what I can tell of what you have written, it sounds like she’s applying the pressure in the best way possible, which is to say that she’s approaching each Blue Dog behind the scenes, one at a time (and applying pressure to each individually), and then communicating to them as a group by means of public statements in which she’s revealing the divisions within their group.
Anyway, speaking of pressure, I’ve asked a few times about the ActBlue ad to tell Lincoln and Ross to ACT LIKE DEMOCRATS, airing in Arkansas. Is it running on CSS? I say part of the Troy ASU game last weekend on CSS, but didn’t see the ad. Any idea what the response has been?
And I also wrote a note in one of yesterday’s thread about what can be done to apply similar pressure to Rep. Jim Cooper (TN-5), in which I suggested placing an ad in a Nashville newspaper. Even one ad placed for a single day can be powerful if it gets the attention of people in the media!
I’m thinking we should deflate the mountain of ego that is Rahm and explain the facts of his record so far to his MSM worshippers:)
How many times have we been right about a story ahead of the talking heads is anyone keeping count?
Nice seein you Demi its good to be at the Lake in the morning again:)
Btw, in case some of you haven’t seen it in a previous thread, here’s the letter I sent to Rep Ross via fax and postal mail (similar one went to Sen Blanch Lincoln, too):
U.S. Congressman Mike Ross
Re: Health Care Reform
2436 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Fax: (202) 225-1314
September 25, 2009
Congressman Ross,
I am writing to let you know that Democrats like me across the country are unhappy about your opposition to REAL health care reform.
I stand with the Democrats of Arkansas, the majority of whom want REAL health care reform. I recently made a contribution to ActBlue so that they can run their ad to tell Sen. Blanche Lincoln and you to stop blocking the PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION, an ad that most of the people of Arkansas – and all of the people in your district – will see over and over again for two weeks on prime time network television.
Congressman, after decades of letting private sector interests create huge problems in our health care system, we need REAL reform.
THIS REFORM – OR FAILURE OF REAL REFORM – WILL AFFECT US FOR DECADES TO COME.
Please stop, think about what you are doing, and start putting the interests of the people of our country first.
But if you can’t, please know that as a result of your failure to represent your constituents well and to work for their interests, that as a result of your failure to put Americans before profits or your own interests, Democrats across the country will work hard to replace you as a member of the House of Representatives and to end your career as a Democrat.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Brc
I don’t hate Blue Dogs. If they vote for an unpopular health care bill they’re going to be out of a job in 2010. Many of them are not rich and lobbyists are throwing money at them like never before. The only way they can vote for this reform is if it’s an indisputably good bill (which it’s not) or if it’s loaded with pork for their constitutents. I say pile on the pork and let the House pass a strong Public Option tied to Medicare rates.
That right there is a tv commercial for Blue Dog Primary challenges!
Jane, I too am curious about the impact of the ads in AR. I really hope Ross is feeling some pressure.
I have called his office, but I’m not from AR.
I don’t think what I trying to say that there seems to be a lot Democrats that are willing to cross party lines than there are Republicans that are willing to cross party lines.
I think Republicans are much more OBEDIENT (which is exactly what they are bred to be) than Democrats– that’s why they are SO easily swayed by right-wing propaganda. They don’t use their minds to deduce what’s truthful they simply listen to what their “leaders” tell them what is truthful.
It’s like a war of good against evil. It’s seems like evil has the advantage….I just don’t know…I really don’t.
Shakespeare (in Henry VI), but he didn’t know Christy, Mary, Glenn Greenwald, and some others at FDL.
Thanks Jane, great summary.
I hope some one finally answers your question about the ad because I want to know, too.
Does anyone know? Did the ad run?
Did Firedoglake, the netroots and public opinion polls finally put Pelosi in our camp on the Public Option? Has she really stopped vacillating on the Public Option?
This is the biggest issue in the news and has been for months the longer we keep this issue in view the more time we have to expose Blue Dog/GOP/tea bagger lies.
Time is our ally as is attention the more the better the Healthcare industry needs this issue to go away what ever happened to the big PR firms that used to work for the lobbyists?
Its been Amateur Hour since the McCain campaign I miss politicians who were smart enough to tell a good lie who cared enough to tell a good lie.
Media control has made them sloppy.
Blue dogs need to feel electoral pain. Until they do, this will continue.
As for the President and Rahm, lots of Dems are becoming extremely disillusioned. 2010 could be a disaster. 2012 may well be also.
Good Question! and do we trust her on this?
They only listen to letters with $$$$ from insurance companies.
Rahm! Change you can believe in? The game was always rigged.
I think Pelosi is playing politics. I think she’s long past the opinion poll stage.
I think there is going to be a lot of talk about replacing Pelosi as House leader maybe even before 2010 elections. She’s been a weak leader, the straw that broke my back is how she mishandled the whole Joe Wilson thing. She handed him a “Badge of Honor” not a reprimand. She should have censured his ass the next morning with an emergency vote. Instead she gave the right plenty of time to build him a right-wing fuc…folk hero.
Lets not forget Harry Reid:)
Major shifts are needed to counter 40 years of Republican corporate oligarchy. Obama and Kumbaya “bipartisanship” (kowtowing to Republicans) are not what the people need. We’re literally burning up here on account of Republican policies.
Harry might not even be there. Apparently he is in real trouble in Nevada.
It’s a cryin’ shame, ain’t it :)
I saw FiveThirtyeights polls Burris appointed by Blaggo is doing better than him:)
Next question who do we want and who do we think we can get to replace Harry and Nancy?
Doesn’t Pelosi’s home district have a PO that is receiving high marks from her constituents?
yep. keeps me awake at night :)
Is Pelosi using some sort of Spock move?
I find it troublesome that all attention is directed at Rahm. He’s just a tool in game of life. (I do wonder if he had some bets on that pharma surge on the ticker.)
I appreciate the breadth of the timeline, but the depth needs plumbing, a bit more, methinks.
It is in the nature of Republicans that they are more obedient, as they draw most heavily from folks with the Authoritarian mindset. Democrats & Progressives tend to be more independent thinkers, which shows in the lack of discipline in the party. It has been this way for a long time (witness Will Rogers’ comment “I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.”).
I was speaking more to the corruptibility of the Blue Weasels than to their willingness to follow orders. They seem to be much more easily bought than more liberal/progressive members of Congress. Perhaps you are right that it is because of the vast sums of cash involved, but they seem to be from states/districts where small money typically is sufficient (how much does it REALLY cost Ross to run for re-election?). The corruption of the R’s has been on open display for most of the past decade. They are presently referred to in many circles as a wholly-owned subsidiary of corporations. The same appears to be happening to the Blue Weasels.
Replacing Harry might be easy – almost anyone will do. Nancy is more difficult – if Nancy falls we get the lovely and charming Steny.
Most politicians aren’t going to take principled stands, they’re going to do what they think will benefit them. We aren’t ever going to come out on top if we just count on them doing the right thing.
What Jane (and others) have done so well, is to put real political pressure on people to make it their best interest to do what’s right. That’s the only way we’re going to be successful. The public option would have been dead a long time ago if not for the efforts of Jane and other smart progressives, and those of us who associate with them.
With a little luck and a LOT of effort we can keep pushing and end up with a health care bill that doesn’t completely suck. We need to accept right now that we aren’t going to get something this year that we love – but if we fight hard enough we’ll get something that can be improved over the years if we remain vigilant.
Or we can just whine about how the politicians don’t do what they ought to do, throw up our hands and accept crap.
It’s our choice.
There is more reporting, at least in the greater Spokane area, about the impact injuries or illness is having on someone’s finances. An unfortunate situation yesterday points this out. A high school football player was seriously injured in a tackle a couple of weeks ago. He died a couple of days ago. The news report reported this AND the fact that the medical bills may force the family to lose their home and donations were needed. This is a big change in reporting.
Does that mean that health care reform is just mostly dead?
This is what concerns me:
President Obama did a media blitz to dominate the media two weekends ago. Health care was the big issue everyone was talking about.
Then, last week, we get the McCrystal leak and the big “Iran’s secret nuclear facility” news, and now we’re all talking about something OTHER THAN health care (look at many of the previous FDL threads).
It’s like the Obama administration deliberately timed these other stories to come out last week to distract attention. I don’t care if Beckerheads or Limpbag’s Dittoheads get distracted, BUT WE CAN’T LET OURSELVES BE DISTRACTED FROM A LASER FOCUS ON FINALLY GETTING REAL HEALTH CARE REFORM AFTER WAITING DECADES FOR IT!
What happens in the next couple of months in the health care debate will affect us for decades!
If the GOP is loosing the Main Stream Media then we are sooo winning this fight thanks for the good news. I am sorry to hear about the football player.
I get your cynicism, but that really isn’t true…
Its like the ending of the Princess Bride the hero is mostly dead but still fighting and getting stronger every day Sue’s comment at 44 gives me hope.
I’m not sure these latest distractions came from Obama’s White House. One area, I’ve been pretty satisfied with Obama is in his dealing with Iran. Recent developments will help stir up fear to push Obama away from his more rational approach to that foreign policy situation.
I haven’t been as thrilled with Obama’s work on Afghanistan, but at least he didn’t immediately sign on to the dramatic increase in troops – which I think is a good thing, but the right-wing war profiteers are understandably upset and the McCrystal link, IMO was designed to try to pressure Obama to stop waffling and throw more money down that pit.
I never know how my rep is going to vote. When I call his office the person usually says, “I don’t know the Congressman’s position on that” or “I am not sure he’s come to a decision on that yet.”
And for such a stupid and overplayed sport. What a waste.
This is why I’m proud to be a Democrat! Not because I like the Blue Weasals, but because the culture of the Democratic leadership allows for open debate in which all kinds of Democrats and Republicans and anyone else can speak, especially in the committees. There is debate.
Compare that to what the Republican leadership did, especially during the 6 years when we had the perfect storm of a R administration and a R House and Senate.
I don’t agree with a lot of what I hear, but it’s the way democracy is supposed to work.
That’s sorta what I meant. It is a better situation than being all the way dead and having the health care(hah!)industry going through our pockets for loose change.
I have not been on the net much or watching tv so I accept what you say I agree a change in conversation is bad for us but unless Obama does go war well we have had 8 years of scary war talk.
I do not think inside baseball effects the public mood much until there is action after all remember all the North Korea nuke hype they we think actually exploded a nuke and their leader is crazy still we did nothing.
For the Iran story to cancel healthcare in the public vs the media mind Obama would have to invade not just talk tough.
8 years of Bush people are burned out.
OMG am I being hopeful before Breakfast?
I know thats what you meant but not everyone here has read the Princess Bride so I thought I’d explain more:)
Sic Brendancalling on him next time you see him he does have a way of getting answers:)
Well anyone who hasn’t seen the Princess Bride needs to get off the computer immediately and go watch it!
;-)
The player is from a small farming community on the Palouse. Those communities just don’t have a lot of money. They do help take care of each other, but with the cost of medical care so high, it is very hard for folks to come up with that amount of money.
Of course, I and they are represented by Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, who just follows the Republican position on things.
Agreed! still we should try and explain and educate otherwise we will end up talking inside baseball to much and our own pet names Chris Mathews is Tweety for example that we will scare off new visitors.
Good Morning Jane and Firedogs,
this will probably be covered in Blue Dogs II, Emanuel Bugaloo - but they continue to show their Gooper leanings by being the biggest WATB’s in our Party.
they are presently whining about having to, you know, actually govern
I think that’s a little to idealistic. I wish you were correct. The way I see it is that there is no “real” debate going on simply because the R’s will not concede to the simplest and most obvious reasonings which is self-evident in their voting records and lack of viable proposals. The are simply the party of “NO” and WANT to see Obama fail even it takes the USA and the Constitution down too.
Saying that is a little strong for me. It’s hard to be proud when the ship is whole ship sinking.
The Republicans may be responsible for sinking the ship, but the Democrats are letting them.
Best “bad guy” line evar!
sadly Mithras, if we’ve learned anything these past few months, it is that Blue Dogs do not have a monopoly on selling out
Bad Guy line? For a Mexican thats a compliment:)
That was Count Rugen after stabbing Inigo Montoya in the gut. I have always appreciated evil characters played with relish.
There are just so many good lines in that movie… And Andre the Giant.
Oh, I agree that they have no monopoly on it. I am just disappointed that they seem to think its no real obstacle to them doing their job (and from the return rate of corporate sellouts, they may be right).
If we could get the people to realize that the corporations do NOT have the peoples’ best interests at heart, we’d be so much better off. Most people that I know have a hard time understanding that the only thing corporations want is more money or more power or both.
Geez, suddenly corporations & politicians seem to have so much in common!
I live in rural WV where the same things apply, in the 2nd Congressional district which covers a wide swath, currently represented by 2nd term Republican, Shelley Moore Capito, daughter of convicted felon, Governor Arch A. Moore, Jr.
Here’s the letter I’m about to email Speaker Pelosi. I am thinking about adding a stronger statement at the end about the likelihood of severe Democratic defeats in 2010 if real health care reform fails or about my willingness to help defeat Democratic members of Congress who don’t support real health care reform w/ the public option.
Please let me know what you think.
We need good bad guys like that Rahm, Bush etc make evil seem so obvious
I like it:)
I don’t think what I wrote
is idealistic. That is how a representative democracy is supposed to work. The next alternative is, what, a Bush-type despot dictating while a Dennis Hastert plays court jester or, maybe, fighting it out in the streets?
And saying I’m proud to be a Democrat because the culture of Democratic leadership is so different from that of the Republicans isn’t strong at all.
Saying that the ship is sinking seems a bit strong to me, though…
FireDogLog?
Thanks!
Leave it as it is, without the last bit I’m thinking about adding? Probably better to leave it out…
Yes, it is the banality of evil in real life that makes it so easy to overlook/dismiss. People don’t want to believe that evil comes in small(minded) packages.
Jane and Team outstanding article. Thanks for all you folks are doing!
Congressman Charile Wilson (Oh) sixth district basically ran on Former Congressman (now Governor of Ohio) Ted Strickland’s coattails) Telling us that he would be voting as Strickland would have done if he was still our Rep. Many of us have not been happy campers with some of Wilsons votes.
When I have called Wilson’s office (which I will do again today) they have been wobbly on the PO.
Congressman Zack Space (Oh 18th district) has many people in this district struggling with unemployment, poor pay for the jobs they do have and lack of health insurance. Not clear on just what his argument against the Public option is.
Will be encouraging fold to call and write both of those offices to push, encourage both Wilson and Space to give into what is good for the people… Public Option.
As Wendell Potter has repeatedly said anything less than the public option is a ” Insurance Industy Profit Protection and Enhancement Act”
What many of us stood by for years is the Single Payer plan. We all know the Public Option is the compromise.
Folks the “Mad As Hell Doctors” are still traveling speaking out for Single Payer. If they are in your neighborhood please go see them. Please call your local media outlets and ask them to cover these Doctors trip if they are coming to your town.
http://www.madashelldoctors.com/
Anyone willing to contact the Diane Rehm show and ask Diane to have them on this week in D.C. they arrive on Wednesday. Diane has a To be Announced (TBA) slots opened on Wednesday and Thursday.
Comment line for the Diane Rehm Show 202- 885-1231
Or
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/contact_us.php
WOULD JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES…ASK HER TO HAVE THE MAD AS HELL DOCTORS ON HER PROGRAM THIS WEEK
This is exaclty why I ask for help!!!!!
Thank you for catching that. I type fast and when I reread my eye goes right over stupid mistakes like “FireDogLog.” ROFLOL
Corrected paragraph:
Good? Thanks again!
If you Bing firedoglog you get this site:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/10/131758/013
Well I would rant more I have an overdeveloped sense of vengence but they would dismiss me as a kook a reasonable moderate voter writing a letter scares Blue Dogs more than me.
Reasonable is what they imagine their base to be. And if being Moderate in tone works in this battlefield then yes use it.
We all have our bits to play in the struggle. Mine is here.
I guess I’m moderate, though I’m only good at feigning ‘reasonable’ :)
Funny that I supported Hillary Clinton during the primaries, which in retrospect seems like the more moderate choice, and have been brought around to Barack Obama since he took office while many of those who supported him during the primaries appear to be most unhappy with him since he took office.
I guess I’m just a moderate. NOW GIVE US THE FUCKING PUBLIC OPTION!
Thank you.
You bet. Not trying to poke fun at your excellent letter, but things like that catch my eye (I do proofreading as part of my job).
Moderate at the Lake is to the Left of the Blue dogs Heck on the issues the majority of Americans are to the Left of the Politicians of both parties:)
Still a reasonable polite letter will work better than a rant and my strength is rants.
Fantastic work and post Jane and all who pitched in.
I wonder if there is a way to calculate the costs mandates without a PO will / would cost in subsidies compared to the cost of subsidies which paid into a PO? Of course Ross and Co.. tried their best to hide this by cutting it off at the knees.. forcing rates to match (not compete with) private insurance.
Fat lot of good it did Ross (BlueDog-Arkansas).
I think the Blue Dogs should be happy to make a statement that through their efforts the size of the reform has been limited to make it fiscally sound and yet a good step forward for America. And they should thank Spkr. Pelosi and Pres. Obama for working with them.
Everybody should end up with some credit for the tremendous coalition that has to be formed to pass legislation of this significance.
I think there would be a handful of Republicans who would be happy to vote for this were it not for party politics. I remain hopeful we’ll get a few, but I’m not holding my breath.
I think we’re in the endgame and we’re very close to having the votes locked up. The legislation itself may take a bit of time because it’s got so many moving parts. But, I think there is a growing consensus that the right parts are there.