Comments on: Who Is the 40th Blue Dog that Wants to Add $85 Billion to the Health Care Bill? http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:33:20 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: alank http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48131 alank Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:03:45 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48131 <p>I was least confident about the Cuellar choice. Heath Shuler makes perfect sense. Thanks for the correction.</p> I was least confident about the Cuellar choice. Heath Shuler makes perfect sense. Thanks for the correction.

]]> By: powwow http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48101 powwow Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:08:15 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48101 <p>Correction: The signature I thought might be Jim Costa’s (and now think is probably Joe Donnelly’s) is the one right above Leonard Boswell’s, in the second column. [Jim Costa’s signature (right below Jason Altmire’s) is just above Joe Donnelly’s.]</p> Correction: The signature I thought might be Jim Costa’s (and now think is probably Joe Donnelly’s) is the one right above Leonard Boswell’s, in the second column. [Jim Costa’s signature (right below Jason Altmire’s) is just above Joe Donnelly’s.]

]]> By: KayInMaine http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48100 KayInMaine Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:03:10 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48100 <p>The whole letter looks fake to me. Just saying…</p> The whole letter looks fake to me. Just saying…

]]> By: powwow http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48099 powwow Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:51:40 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48099 <p>alank, you’ve nailed it, I think, with one exception: I’m pretty confident that <b>Heath Shuler</b> is the second name in the first column, not Henry Cuellar (who has a very legible signature, according to the other letter containing the printed names of its signatories, which you’ve helpfully linked).</p> <p>So I wrongfully fingered Bill Foster, whose signature is very legible. Instead the ‘artistic’ signature that stumped me clearly belongs (again thanks to a comparison with the other letter’s signatures) to <b>Jim Costa</b>, and the name I thought might be Jim Costa’s (just below Jason Altmire) is apparently a very poor rendition of <b>Joe Donnelly’s</b> signature, as alank indicates. [That name could be something else, though; I’m least confident of that one, in comparing it to the quite legible signature of Joe Donnelly in the other letter - in this version there seems to be a J and a D, but everything else is pretty much just a line.]</p> <p>alank apparently doesn’t see any version of Gene Taylor’s signature either. </p> <p>In sum: <b>We would both remove Gene Taylor from the list, and add Frank Kratovil and Joe Donnelly to make the 40.</b> [And alank would tentatively replace Shuler with Cuellar.]</p> alank, you’ve nailed it, I think, with one exception: I’m pretty confident that Heath Shuler is the second name in the first column, not Henry Cuellar (who has a very legible signature, according to the other letter containing the printed names of its signatories, which you’ve helpfully linked).

So I wrongfully fingered Bill Foster, whose signature is very legible. Instead the ‘artistic’ signature that stumped me clearly belongs (again thanks to a comparison with the other letter’s signatures) to Jim Costa, and the name I thought might be Jim Costa’s (just below Jason Altmire) is apparently a very poor rendition of Joe Donnelly’s signature, as alank indicates. [That name could be something else, though; I’m least confident of that one, in comparing it to the quite legible signature of Joe Donnelly in the other letter - in this version there seems to be a J and a D, but everything else is pretty much just a line.]

alank apparently doesn’t see any version of Gene Taylor’s signature either.

In sum: We would both remove Gene Taylor from the list, and add Frank Kratovil and Joe Donnelly to make the 40. [And alank would tentatively replace Shuler with Cuellar.]

]]> By: TarheelDem http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48092 TarheelDem Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:12:28 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48092 <p>Yep, it’s Mike McIntyre</p> Yep, it’s Mike McIntyre

]]> By: cando http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48090 cando Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:00:38 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48090 <p>I gave support last round to Patrick Murphy, Mike Acuri, Chris Carney and Gabrielle Giffords but I won’t do that again. I hope ActBlue/Blue America is smarter next go round. These folks must not be very intelligent if they can’t read what the CBO has said about the amount of money save with a PO.</p> I gave support last round to Patrick Murphy, Mike Acuri, Chris Carney and Gabrielle Giffords but I won’t do that again. I hope ActBlue/Blue America is smarter next go round. These folks must not be very intelligent if they can’t read what the CBO has said about the amount of money save with a PO.

]]> By: alank http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48082 alank Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:36:23 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48082 <p>Here’s my list:</p> <p><strong>Left column</strong></p> <p>Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie (SD)<br /> Cuellar, Henry (TX-28) ?<br /> Ross, Mike (AR-04)<br /> Barrow, John (GA-12)<br /> Griffith, Parker (AL-05)<br /> Davis, Lincoln (TN-04)<br /> Berry, Marion (AR-01)<br /> Peterson, Collin (MN-07) ?<br /> Childers, Travis (MS-01)<br /> Marshall, Jim (GA-08)<br /> Boren, Dan (OK-02)<br /> Matheson, Jim (UT-02)<br /> Boyd, Allen (FL-02)<br /> Chandler, Ben (KY-06)<br /> Kratovil, Jr., Frank (MD-01)<br /> Murphy, Patrick (PA-08)<br /> Michaud, Mike (ME-02)<br /> Nye, Glenn (VA-02)<br /> Bright, Bobby (AL-02)<br /> Space, Zack (OH-18)</p> <p><strong>Right column</strong></p> <p>Hill, Baron (IN-09)<br /> Melancon, Charlie (LA-03) ?<br /> Cooper, Jim (TN-05)<br /> Bishop, Sanford (GA-02)<br /> Arcuri, Mike (NY-24)<br /> Altmire, Jason (PA-04)<br /> Costa, Jim (CA-20)<br /> Donnelly, Joe (IN-02)<br /> Boswell, Leonard (IA-03)<br /> Gordon, Bart (TN-06)<br /> Carney, Christopher (PA-10)<br /> Tanner, John (TN-08)<br /> Salazar, John (CO-03)<br /> Dahlkemper, Kathy (PA-03)<br /> Moore, Dennis (KS-03)<br /> Scott, David (GA-13)<br /> Holden, Tim (PA-17)<br /> Minnick, Walt (ID-01)<br /> Giffords, Gabrielle (AZ-08)<br /> McIntyre, Mike (NC-07)</p> <p>Relied in part on <a href="http://firedoglake.com/files/1/files//2009/09/medicare_d_final_letter_wm.pdf" rel="nofollow">this FDL doc</a>.</p> Here’s my list:

Left column

Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie (SD)
Cuellar, Henry (TX-28) ?
Ross, Mike (AR-04)
Barrow, John (GA-12)
Griffith, Parker (AL-05)
Davis, Lincoln (TN-04)
Berry, Marion (AR-01)
Peterson, Collin (MN-07) ?
Childers, Travis (MS-01)
Marshall, Jim (GA-08)
Boren, Dan (OK-02)
Matheson, Jim (UT-02)
Boyd, Allen (FL-02)
Chandler, Ben (KY-06)
Kratovil, Jr., Frank (MD-01)
Murphy, Patrick (PA-08)
Michaud, Mike (ME-02)
Nye, Glenn (VA-02)
Bright, Bobby (AL-02)
Space, Zack (OH-18)

Right column

Hill, Baron (IN-09)
Melancon, Charlie (LA-03) ?
Cooper, Jim (TN-05)
Bishop, Sanford (GA-02)
Arcuri, Mike (NY-24)
Altmire, Jason (PA-04)
Costa, Jim (CA-20)
Donnelly, Joe (IN-02)
Boswell, Leonard (IA-03)
Gordon, Bart (TN-06)
Carney, Christopher (PA-10)
Tanner, John (TN-08)
Salazar, John (CO-03)
Dahlkemper, Kathy (PA-03)
Moore, Dennis (KS-03)
Scott, David (GA-13)
Holden, Tim (PA-17)
Minnick, Walt (ID-01)
Giffords, Gabrielle (AZ-08)
McIntyre, Mike (NC-07)

Relied in part on this FDL doc.

]]> By: solerso http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48080 solerso Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:18:11 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48080 <p>But they LIKE their heads up there. Its all warm and toasty, you can’t hear the names people call you and after awhile you dont even NOTICE the smell!</p> But they LIKE their heads up there. Its all warm and toasty, you can’t hear the names people call you and after awhile you dont even NOTICE the smell!

]]> By: Dearie http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48068 Dearie Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:46:07 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48068 <p>Can I have the money back that I donated to Chris Carney at the suggestion of …….</p> Can I have the money back that I donated to Chris Carney at the suggestion of …….

]]> By: Teddy Partridge http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48064 Teddy Partridge Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:16:57 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/who-is-the-40th-blue-dog-that-wants-to-add-85-billion-to-the-health-care-bill/#comment-48064 <p>Just offhand, have you studied the Nixon Administration? Price controls? The EPA? A lengthening southeast asian war, detente with Russia and visits to China? Lotsa promises broken there; not sure Obama can ever match that record.</p> Just offhand, have you studied the Nixon Administration? Price controls? The EPA? A lengthening southeast asian war, detente with Russia and visits to China? Lotsa promises broken there; not sure Obama can ever match that record.

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