Jane,

Will there be a “wake up and smell the coffee” moment with poll results like this?

I am so incredibly tired of Rahm and swell ideas.

Can we just give Rahm a severance package and send him off to the “Elder Statesman’s Home” or something? He’s done more to single-handedly destroy the “Mo” Obama (his Boss) had since November of last year than anyone else who carries the appellation “D” associated with their name.

Close seconds include all the former DLC’rs and Blue Dogs.

How about sending Blanche Lincoln and Mike Ross some coffee for Saturday morning?

And Mark Pryor as well.

Seems like the tables are starting to turn in favor of the PO. Perhaps the Democratic Party is catching whiffs of electoral decimation in 2010 if there is no meaningful healthcare reform. Rahm still wants a trigger, probably to shoot himself in the foot.

Obama’s picking Rahm Emanuel, who never met a liberal or a liberal idea that he liked, causes one to question whether he’s fundamentally serious about “change we can believe in,” unless the change is converting the Democratic Party into a sort of valet operation for the corporate oligarchy.

Jane… thanks for your description of the “veal pen” in one of your previous posts. I think about it often, and it explains plenty.

The public doesn’t seem to be accepting Glenn Beck as their representatives. Does this make Faux News, what do you think?

Mark Weisbrot was happy you showed up last night.

Read something yesterday that sort of indicates that some of the union are backing off from demanding a public option. Is that true?

The tide is turning. The rock is being turned over. A very large percentage of congress is taking bribes right now, and we can publish that data for every one in their district to see. The president’s right hand hammer, is taking bribes. Rahm must be getting promised huge sums of money to kill us. Thus is our president being offered huge sums of money.
What’s it going to be? Them or us? Because you only have a few hundred of them for friends.

Oh no, that is very bad. Union support of the PO is hugely important to its success.

I think/hope the tide may be turning among the public – but it doesn’t seem to be having much effect on Congress.
At least, I am seeing news reports (mainstream) about Ross’s pharmacy deal and the amount of money he’s received from insurance/pharma interests.
If he’s having to push back, it must be having an effect.

Have you all seen the video of Sen. Stabenow smacking down Kyl on his statement that maternity care shouldn’t be required, b/c he doesn’t need maternity care….
link at tpm:

Will that go viral, do you think? Should play well with GenY/s.

“Nationally,” the memo reads, “voters oppose a mandate to purchase private insurance by 64% to 34% but support a mandate with a choice of private or public insurance by 60% to 37%… Each [survey] found that likely 2010 voters oppose ‘requiring everyone to buy and be covered by a private health insurance plan’ but support ‘requiring everyone to buy and be covered by a health insurance plan with a choice between a public option and private insurance plans.’”

Then again, Rahm thought kicking labor in the ass with NAFTA in 1993 was a really swell idea, too.

Can the news get any better:) We got these numbers on this issue despite Tea Bagger anti healthcare riots getting tons of media coverage.
Were are all the TV Pundits who said Healthcare couldn’t be done in the face of such Protests?
Grass Roots vs Astro Turf another Victory for our side!

Resistance to the PO from Blue Dogs in the house seems to be softening, which is good.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..98637.html

apparently there was some confusion earlier in the week about SEIU joining forces with Big PhRMA and others in an ad campaign – but thankfully, not the case

That’s what it was. Thanks

So when will Rahm get the boot has been successful at anything?

AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

Unlike a lot of my “progressive” brothers and sisters, I think Obama was VERY clever in pickin’ Rahm and convincin’ ‘im to front for his administration in the first 2 years. Rahm’s modus operandi was exposed in 2006 when he tried to run the same game he ran in 1994 on Democrats but got his ass kicked…he then declared victory through his stooges in the corporate media and decided to bide his time in the House underminin’ Pelosi until he could assume the Speaker’s job. Obama talked ‘im into leavin the House, knowin’ that Rahm would give his administration immediate “centerist” credibility while gettin’ him out of Pelosi’s hair. If things went south, Obama could always cover himself with the corporatists but if the progressives caught fire (as they have) he could kiss Rahm on the cheek in 2010 and Rahm could declare victory and try and move back into House leadership in 2012. Rahm is stuck, he can’t replay 1994, he doesn’t dare try and undermine Obama while he is still in the administration and the door to a return to leadership in the House, at least as a Democrat, has closed shut.

This whole political game today is Obama’s to lose and as each day of the health care debate goes on, it becomes more and more obvious that the only way Obama and the people of the country lose is if he is forcefully removed.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, WE CAN’T BE TIRED YET!!

What was that Democratic Party platform thingy?

The way that Congress will get the message if you we ALL make it clear via e-mails, phone calls and actual delivered mail that they won’t get another dime or another vote from us if we don’t get a real public option. They need to get this message over and over and over and over again!

Citizen xargaw:

The pressure, the e-mails and phone calls, hafta go to the progressives in both the House and Senate…they have the numbers now to move and remove the party leadership if that leadership doesn’t perform.

I really don’t think any of the teabaggers have any idea that they have been recruited to advance corporate interests, sheeple are so easily manipulated. I think if they ever woke up from this nightmare, they too would be appalled. Well, at least the ones who aren’t jpn (just plain nuts). Highly technical term we used for some of our clients in the locked psychiatric facility, where I worked as a nurse.
I still cannot overcome the outrage I feel about Kyl publicly proclaiming that he thinks it is perfectly ok for corporations to lie under the guise of free speech. Doesn’t that make you wonder about everything he lies about – which is probably quite a lot, considering he evidently has no conscience.
I had this idle fantasy yesterday that perhaps we the citizens of this country could form our own enormous corporation, and could that not possibly become as powerful and as feared as the other nonbreathing entities in this country, who are apparently above the law. Perhaps we could even become a church, and thus attain tax exempt status. I nominate Jane to head the board of directors.
Last but not least, I do not mean to malign any particular group, but it strikes me as interesting that many, such as Orrin Hatch, Mitt Romney, Glenn Beck and others are members of the Mormon church, traditionally an organization headed by white, powerful men, who, at least until recently consigned their women to Kinder, Kueche, Kirche (children, kitchen, church) in case it even needs translating.

If it’s true that the Ds in Congress (both Houses) are beginning to get the message that a mandate without public option is exceedingly unpopular, do we see any movement in the WH phrasing of its “support”.

Hmmm promoting Rahm out of a position where he could do harm? That explains a bunch.

Taking Rahm out of the House and making him your Chief of Staff as a strategy to sideline him? That makes zero sense.

If the President wanted to sideline a House member, all he’d have to do is back a primary challenger in the next cycle. It doesn’t require N-dimensional chess moves.

Citizen Sparkatus:

No dear, Obama got the best of both worlds, he got to use Rahm to build credibility as a “centerist” and could use ‘im if things went south while at the same time he gets the bastards out of the way in the Congress…by the way…how’d it work out? Rahm is toast and Obama is stronger’n ever and so are the progessives. Look more than one move ahead brother Sparkatus.

Um. There are plenty of places you might put someone you wanted to sideline. Chief of Staff ain’t it. COS is one of the most important functions in the White House or any organization, you’re access manager for the King.

Besides, Obama didn’t need assistance in establishing centrist cred. Even then, who’s he establishing this cred with exactly? He was coming off a significant win.

So, following your logic, which of the 59 other Blue Dog pretenders to the Speakership should be next on the list to be sidelined through the Norske Gambit?

the Dem’s coffers are drying up and they wounder why. Its been a little under 9 months and they have already proven that they are unable to govern even though we gave them the White House,the Senate and the congress what more can we do maybe a 3rd party. However that never seems to work we just might as well vote them out in 2010 the repuks run the show now so what would be different?

What makes you think that Rahm is toast?

It seems to me that he has been a powerful component in O’s falling approval numbers. Why would O choose that path just to get Rahm out of the House?

It’s funny how conservatives think that a “public option” in education – i.e., vouchers – are the greatest thing since sliced bread. In healthcare reform, a public option is tantamount to killing grandma while we all march to the gulag singing “The Internationale.”

How do they sustain such levels of cognitive dissonance without their heads imploding?

I wonder if any pollsters asked about the public option without mandates.

This is tremendous. 65% demonstrated public support for the public option after three months of bat crap crazy banshee attacks on it means that something like 20-30% of conservatives in addition to 80% of liberals support a public option.

The contortions that are being deployed in order to save the crumbling employment-based insurance model are beginning to fall of their own complexity and one-sidedness.

Glenn Beck is no Mormon. He himself admits he only joined the Mormon church because he wanted to have sex with his now wife and she wouldn’t have sex until they were married and wouldn’t marry a non-Mormon. Orrin Hatch is a better example of Mormon think. Although the Mormon contingent is strongly Republican, Kyl’s statement would go over very badly among Mormons. They tend to have large families and try to have the women stay home as much as possible. They even have a prophetic declaration that women should be home if at all possible, so if they work, they often work part time or do daycare in the home or one of the home sales businesses like Pampered Chef. They desperately need maternity care and they need it in their husband’s policies because they rely on them more than many women do. Kyl has a lot of Mormons in his state and I hope they were paying attention to his idiocy. They might not go Democrat, but I could seriously see them pushing a primary opponent or staying home.