Jim Cooper writes an op-ed in the Hill:
Not only the Daily Kos but also Firedoglake has accused me of being against “the public option.” The truth is that I have been a leader in trying to define what a public option really could mean, and I have repeatedly stated that there are several definitions that I support. By my calculation, there are about 18 ways to define a public option and at least half of them could win my support and, in my opinion, a majority in Congress.
Sincere apologies to Rep. Cooper if we’ve misstated his position. Brantley Hargrove of Nashville Scene probably does a better job of catching the nuance of Cooper’s position:
Even though I have stood, arms locked with the GOP, in the path of a public option, I don’t really have a problem with the public option even though the bill I’m pushing does not provide for a public option. So I can say I’m not against a public option and do everything within my ability to prevent its passage.
"Weasel-worded, dissembling obstructionist" is probably a more accurate description.





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Poor Jim Cooper. He must not understand the Nets power where his words are available for far lnger than his memories of stating the words in question.
So Rep Cooper? You go stand “arm-in=arm” with the Republicans. Your future lobbying job is waiting for you after your defeat in the next primary.
Well, maybe Cooper’s ‘public option’ is like Bill Clinton’s thing about the definition of sex — his ‘public option’ probably is neither ‘public’ nor ‘optional’.
“Asshole” works for me.
Wow… the new Prince of Wails… what an asshole. The man from the Volunteer State wants us all to Volunteer to pay more money to corporate Death Panels.
Jim Cooper, another case study in “bought and paid for”, courtesy of your friendly neighborhood health care company.
Poor man, he will never get to return home to his district. He has given up his link to his roots forever. Those people sent him to congress to work for them, and little did they know he sold them out right away. They are now waiting for him so that they can have a little chat.
Watch out Jim! You’re going to get even more unfriendly press from the blogs and perhaps the “media”. With CREW filing an ethics complaint against Mike Ross and pointing out the unseemly amount of cash he got from the industry, you may find yourself linked with people who dont’ want a public option and have taken bribes from the industry. The “Guilt by Association” could come crashing down on you. Let’s get the ball rolling. Does anyone know how much money this whore has taken from his pimps? I’m sure we’ll find out soon!
So conceptually, he doesn’t oppose a public option. He only opposes the implementation of a public option, provided that the implementation will be effective. Got it.
I agree, OldFatGuy. “Asshole” works for me, too.
Why does the word “dense” come to mind when I read Cooper’s wail. He thinks he has fooled his district?
Under which walnut shell is the real position?
He is so primariable with a real Democrat. His distrist is one of the most Democrat in Tennessee (except for Cohen’s).
A real moderate or progressive Democrat could beat a Weasel Dem any day of the week there.
Blue Weasel Dems works for me, or for sjhort, Weasel Dems
I have an excellent idea for those “democrats” who are in love with “trigger”
“a public plan will be triggered for anyone who is out of work, who’s employer does not provide adequate health care or who’s private health care refuses coverage for valid health claims”
bing, a public option triggered, just what rham wants and something that we can get behind
I would then go further and make that “public plan” Medicare, triggered by those conditions
also and obviously, for those employers who do not provide health care they will be billed the fees plus administration the real costs of Medicare per person plus some derivative fine of some kind that might pressure them more toward a private plan when they become more competitive
The monstrous slug speaks with forked tongue or as Jane said it… :-)
“So I can say I’m not against a public option and do everything within my ability to prevent its passage.”
Call in the exorcist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewu1laA2nmI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0GnB6wusaU
Who owns you, Jimmy? Methinks you might want to study for a new job, maybe with the health industry. They have lots of money, you know.
I too must apologize to Mr. Cooper (no, wait…REP. Cooper, for another year anyway). I assumed maybe he was just uninformed, but now I see he was intentionally lying. Sorry about the mix-up.
STEP UP! And be a MAN! You ameoba!
(my apologies to amoebae every, who aren’t nearly as slimy)
I like to think of people like Cooper as Blue Cross Dems.
O dearie me, could Mr. Cooper be learning that he has constituents, and not just campaign contributors? Nope. Doesn’t look like it, but we’ll keep trying to teach him.
Rep. Cooper, renounce your own publicly funded healthcare until there is a public option available for all.
Oh, Jane. You really on a tear. Don’t hold back now, give it here, give it here.
Uh, hello, Mr. Cooper? Some folks are trying to change the world for the better. And, twisting your words might be construed as Lieing to some of us.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
I find it interestin’ that the Blue Dogs find it necessary to respond with equivocating and obsficating rhetoric when called out on the “public option”…instead of blasting away at the concept, the mangey curs feel it necessary to hide behind it. This leads me to believe that, at least in the House of Representatives, the public option is very much alive so where are we now in the House? Since it has been my contention all along that the success or failure of health care reform resides in the House and not the Senate, and since Rahm is “all in” on this issue because his political ambitions and maybe his political life depends on breakin Pelosi on this issue, who has Pelosi got to replace Hoyer to whip the progressives and keep ‘em in their foxholes? There is more than health care reform at stake here, if Pelosi fails to bring the “public option” out of the House we not only fail to get health care reform but we get Rahm as Speaker in 2010.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE IS NO PLACE TO HIDE!!
What a maroon!
Actually, the public option could be tranched by Goldman, insured by AIG, and AAA+ certified by Moody’s.
So Conrad thinks the U.S. doesn’t need a public option because France doesn’t have one. Are these guys really that stoooopid? (Rhetorical Q.)
By my calculation, there are about 18 ways to define a public option and at least half of them could win my support and, in my opinion, a majority in Congress.
And 50 ways to leave your lover!
Jane! No mercy! Yeah!
Sorry for this personal OT to NFt…
Were you’re ears burning about a week ago? Check out this pic at
http://christyhardinsmith.fire…..the-gates/
We were talking about ya…
Thanks. That was the song I was trying to think of.
PRIMARY THIS fukstik………mokay?
The Cooper proof process:
Take original definition of ‘public option’ that is both “public” and an “option” for all;
Ignore the definition of component words “public” and “option” as well as the original accepted form of the composite “public option” while making up 17 other novel ways to define ‘public option’ that have no real meaning;
Declare that you could support at least half of those novel definitions;
Conclude that you aren’t against the public option.
QED
he is too short to reach the podium
You’re welcome, eCAHN. Also had in mind the Red Queen’s ability to believe six impossible things before breakfast. ;)
51 ways. I’m adding Hit the road, Toad.
PUBLIC OPTION should read….PUBLIC …C H O I C E
He did not have support with that P.O.
(hi, toby)
the stooooooooooopit ,it burns
the venal………….it sickens
Well, that’s a relief, since it’s there are NO possible things that one can believe in either before or after breakfast.
Citizen demi:
ROFLMAO!!! Would that I were that cute but I must say I did take second place in a baby picture contest in 1947! Chrisy’s “peanut” looks a lot like my second born grandaughter, Josephine, though only with the horns on!
Glad to share a smile.
Some may want to peruse Gregg Levine’s post already in progress: “Gov. Patrick Names Paul Kirk to Replace Late Kennedy in Senate”
Citizen sadlyyes:
Actually, we get Rahm’s puppet, Steny Hoyer, in 2010and then Rahm in 2013 if Obama survives the backlash.
“I have been a leader in trying to define what a public option really could means”
Translation: I have been a leader in misusing the term “public option” for something that’s neither public nor an option.
give him hell fdl! yesterday as i listened to iran’s Ahmadinejad’s speech to the un, i could not help but think, “how different is this guy from the gop and blue dog tics?”
as i have said before, those like cooper, republicans in sheeps clothing calling themselves democrats, baucus et. al; they must think the majority of americans are deaf, dumb and blind with very short memories.
i wouldn’t bet their next primary on that!
Jane doesn’t fight fair; she uses Jim Cooper’s own words to call BS. What nerve!
Rep. Cooper thinks writing in the Post will trump the Netroots – he has an education coming. Doubtless he still believes publishing in a “serious” beltway newspaper is much more credible than the whispering of mere bloggers.
Bwahahaha!
The one bright spot, to me – the fact he felt it necessary to “refute” Kos and FDL saying he was against a public option indicates to me that he is hearing from voters that the public option is a LOT more popular than they thought. If he thinks he needs to pretend to support it, than he’s in a place where he can be pushed.
And if that’s so, probably others like him can, too.
With Republican-asshole health care, it is 50 ways to leave your liver.
jim is a lying S.O.B.what is his phone # in D.C.
Poor, poor, poor lying baby. So last century.
Better Dems!
Go Jane!
Any trigger should start in congress. Anyone in congress making less than say $60,000 (which most American would like to make) does not get public health insurance. Which means no one in congress gets public health insurance or has their insurance paid for . Let them all go out in the free market. They are looking for cuts. How much will that save taxpayers?
Forget “public option”. The phrase is ambiguous on purpose so they can worm in built to fail co-ops, trillions in permanent welfare for the Directors and major stockholders of the pharmacuetical industry and bind every American to the whim of private insurers. Single payer is easy. Medicare for All explains itself. Everyone understands the concept of public health insurance except these clowns and their media water-carriers. Either you want to lower prices and comprehensive care for all Americans or you want to protect the profits of people who have literally let US die to make just a little more. I’ll put it in language they can understand.
Either you are with US or you are against US.
I just witnessed a good example of the defeat of a measure in the Senate which was designed to save billions of dollars for the taxpayer while its defeat instead protected the profits of the Pharma industry.
It dealt with saving 160 billion dollars for the taxpayers by charging all Medicare recipients the same reduced prices for drugs as are payed by the poorest of Medicare patients, the so called “doughnut hole”.
The measure was defeated on the spurious but very direct argument by those that opposed the measure that it was futile to adopt this measure because Pharma would only shift an increase in its drug cost somewhere else in order to preserve its existing exorbitant profits.
This reluctance to pass the most basic cost saving measures in order to protect Pharma permeates the entire political class from Obama on down. Specifically those Democrats who voted no to the measure were:
Baucus; Carper (of Delaware); Menendez (of New Jersey).
These Senators should be pelted out of office and in the meantime inundated by emails and the spotlight brought to bear directly on them by DPL, and all the crew at MSNBC. This sort of grovelling and prostration before large corporations in order to protect their profits can no longer be tolerated.
Thanks for making me laugh every day. Love your style. Wondering if you can show me the way to the nearest survivalist compound, and perhaps you know someone who can teach me subsistence farming, when all of this blows up. Oh, and please teach me what to do with the ammunition!
Any student of history will probably remember the minister of propaganda for the nazi party, Joseph Goebbels. He acussed his opponents of socialism and attacked them with “the big lie” theory. This theory was if you told an obvious bold lie and just repeated it often and loudly, the masses would believe it. He used it to convince people that minorities were trying to destroy the country… unfortunately it worked and violence ensued.
If only the media had been more courageous in exposing the lies.
I would like you to get up put the cupcakes down .It is not my job to pay for your anti-heathcare crap.Oh ya the [Edit by Moderator] thing. get off your’s and pay your own way. As i head to work(to pay my own way) i would like to leave you with just one word Edit by Moderator
[Mod Note: Differing points of view are encouraged. Personal insults directed towards commenters are not welcome]
Hey, just wanted to take this opportunity to THANK YOU!!!
Really appreciate it. See, you’re already paying for my healthcare!!! And I’ve got the best damned care in the country, at the VA.
So, thank you kindly, and I won’t interrupt you as you head to work now to continue to pay for my healthcare, and I hope you have a wonderful day!!!
Weasledems instead of blue dogs? I like it.
i do pay your healthcare at the v.a. [Edited by Moderator]
When there is no one left to attack . Attack your own. Go dumb dems !!!
am i aloud to say that moderator
Just thought that priceless piece of prose was worth repeating.
Yes, clearly one of the right wing intelligentsia. I think they call them “morans”.
Perhaps some that “speaking in tongues” stuff they do at their circle jerks. Don’t know for sure.