Ryan Grim over at the Huffington Post has an update on the Blue Dogs’ whip count.
The Blue Dogs have been surveying their membership over the last several days; coalition co-chair Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.) has been collecting the responses. She listed the four top priorities that have emerged: Keeping the cost under $900 billion, not moving at a faster pace than the Senate, getting a 20-year cost estimate from the Congressional Budget Office and addressing regional disparities in Medicare reimbursement rates.
So, the Huffington Post asked, the public option is not a top priority?
"Right, the group is somewhat split," she said.
It appears the rank and file Blue Dogs don’t really think opposing a public option should be a top concern of their caucus. This seems to be in conflict with the Blue Dogs’ health care task force chairman Mike Ross’s firm opposition to any bill with a public option. Given the incredible cost saving potential of a robust public option, it might be getting hard to reconcile their claims of fiscal conservatism with opposition to a public option. It could also be that they have looked at the public option’s strong poll numbers in their districts and are having second thoughts.
There still seems to be concerns about a robust public option tied to Medicare rates, because most Blue Dogs represent rural districts. Rural areas tend to have slightly lower Medicare reimbursement rates. If this issue is really a sticking point may I offer a modest solution? In areas where the Medicare reimbursement for a procedure is less than the national average, have the public option’s reimbursement rate tied to the Medicare national average (not the local Medicare rate) for that procedure.





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Hey! Mike Ross! Enjoy the game. Don’t miss the ad.
Pig!!!! Sooooie!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWMynRGeR88
Getting the zed leaves you speechless?
Was just trying to make a point.
Don’t the Blue Dogs have any concern for amendments that exempt states whose names begin with the letter “U” like Orrin Hatch does? This seems like a high priority.
Buncha losers can’t hold their caucus together.
Now is the time to strike, CPC!
Very clever.
Rachel just had a friend of the KY census worker who was killed (or whatever actually happened to the poor man; given the official releases, it could have been anything. Nothing like refusing to tell the truth). What an embarassing interview. The man answered every Q with single words. Rachel handled it well.
Let’s exempt states that begin with the letters N and C.
That would reduce profitability severely in places where Medicare reimbursements are higher, such as high-cost-of-living dense metro areas typically represented by progressive Democrats. I’d be a little concerned of the vulnerability this would create for the CPC and for non-profit service providers who might not tolerate the squeeze. It’s worth a CBO score at the very least.
Dare we believe this division among Blue Dogs exists?
I always thought attacking their egregious failure on fiscal conservative practices would really hit them and their constituents where it counts.
The Ross Lincoln ad… wonderful as it is… did not go there directly. We have much more ammunition.
The poor states have large Medicaid populations. The bills propose to raise Medicaid rates to equal Medicare rates by 2013, paid for by the Treasury, which will be a big cash benefit for those states. That ought to be enough.
No.
This has been another episode of simple …
I don’t know the numbers, but I can tell you rural east and south Arkansas has a very low cost of doing business… compared to almost anywhere else. Low real estate, low labor, low taxes, etc. In fact I suspect it would be true for most of the Blue Dogs who represent largely poor southern or rural districts.
What was up with that?
so we might actually be winning? …. well, just a bit? And just because the dogs are distancing themselves from the cravenly corrupt Ross? hehe.
Wait, why not just fix the Medicare reimbursement rates? A lot of states are getting screwed by the disparity.
This is good news for the Public Option, but it raises some questions. If these Medicare payment issues were the Blue Dogs’ main concern all along–which seems plausible–why wasn’t this addressed rather than let it escalate into a battle over the PO itself? Who benefitted from that? And why are the Blue Dogs waivering on the PO now that the White House has all but given in? What is the real status of the PO in the Senate? Schumer said today it will pass. I’m very confused.
I’m not sure what is going on in KY. Initial reports said he was hanged with FED written on his body. It was discovered on 9/12, but it didn’t go nationwide until yesterday. Now some reports say his feet were touching the ground, etc. It’s all fekackta (or however that’s spelled).
Added on edit. TPM coverage (can’t do links on edit but you can find it easily at talkingpointsmemo.com) points out that nothing much is certain yet, which leads me to type that the cops are messed up bigtime. For example, the autopsy is just being scheduled some 12 DAYS AFTER the body was found? WTF’s up with that?!!!
fuckery.
Not sure what to make of this, but the Senate apparently is voting on the “public option” tomorrow. Showtime, boys and girls.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..99232.html
Complete incompetence.
Jello Jay was on KO (replay now) and Schumer was on Rachel, both saying PO was gonna be in final bill. If you believe those jerks, I’ve gotta bridge to sell ya.
You watching C-span?
Time to put the Blue Dogs back in their place, if they want to be re-elected they will vote the party line. Otherwise they won’t make it through the primaries.
I think law enforcement often misleads the press at this point in an investigation in the hope that the misinformation will cause the perps to trip up, don’t they? I think in the case of the Yale murder of that bride-to-be a few weeks ago they knew from electronic records and surveillance tapes that the victim was last seen in a room with their suspect days before they found (or possibly announced they found) the body… apparently to let the suspect think that they were still pursuing a runaway bride scenario.
Nope. Just saw it at HuffPo.
North Dakota?
North Carolina?
California, er Carlyfornia?
and, of course,
Nebraska and Connecticut!
Nah, not gonna fly.
you are mistaken about what I’m saying in underfunded area use national average. In overfunded areas use the normal medicare rate.
Every time I see some idjit blowharding about how much health reform will cost, I want to choke the jerk. How much does it cost to do what we are doing now?
I have yet to see any of these penny wise, pound foolish jerks address the costs of NOT having health care reform with a public option. It has to be obvious to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear that the cost of doing a good job of health care reform with the proper inducements for all involved, hospitals, doctors, insurance companies, etc., is much less than going along the way we are doing now. That the money for reform comes out of tax dollars and the money for going as we are now comes directly out of people’s pockets is irrelevant. A good bit of the cost of going as we are is from sick or dead people who are unproductive and who require resources that otherwise could be put to productive use.
Blue Dogs have a contact email but I keep getting it sent back as a failed delivery. Does anybody have a current email address for them?