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		<title>By: NAVDOC3rdMAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NAVDOC3rdMAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations.  Time for publically funded elections.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,&lt;br /&gt;lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,&lt;br /&gt;conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M, boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M, j wilson 800K&lt;br /&gt;were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.&lt;br /&gt;(Source: OpenSecrets.org)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Co-Author Dr. Steffie Woolhandler of a Recent Harvard Study on Annual Deaths of America’s Uninsured, says the lack of coverage can be tied to about 45,000 deaths a year in the United States. The only way to affordably cover all Americans is through a Medicare-for-All, Single-Payer System. A Single-Payer System would generate $300-$400 billion in administrative savings annually, enough to cover all of the uninsured, and to plug the gaps in coverage for Americans with only partial coverage. Obviously, Medicare-for-all is anathema to the insurance industry. What politicians are doing is saving insurance industry profits, by sacrificing American lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12 Million Americans were denied health care coverage by the Medical Industrial Complex because they had a pre-existing medical condition. 12K Americans are denied insurance coverage everyday by a for-profit Insurance bureaucrat. (Source: WaPo Article 05′ by Harvard Prof. E. Warren) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Medical malpractice lawsuits are a hot topic but, are they? Tort Reform is such a “Red Herring” and is easily disproved.  A 2004 report by the Congressional Budget Office said medical malpractice makes up only 2 percent of U.S. health spending. Even “significant reductions” would do little to curb health-care expenses, it concluded. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;bush(43) economic speech writer david frum, at least, is willing to admit the idea about selling insurance across state lines is a crock: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;New Jersey health policies cost more in large part because New Jersey hospitals and doctors charge more. If I buy a cheaper Kentucky policy that reimburses my providers at Kentucky rates, leaving me to pay the balance, how much good does that do me? And if the Kentucky policy is made to pay New Jersey rates, there vanishes my low Kentucky price.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are some of the easily refuted arguments bought and paid for by the Medical Industrial Complex to derail any chance of their criminally massive profits being reduced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Follow the Money: &lt;a href=&quot;http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Toll Free # House and Senate)&lt;br /&gt;1-866-338-1015 _____ 1-866-220-0044&lt;br /&gt;1-800-473-6711 _____ 1-866-311-3405&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sign Single-Payer Petition: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SEMPER FI!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations.  Time for publically funded elections.</p>
<p>The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.</p>
<p>mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,<br />lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,<br />conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M, boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M, j wilson 800K<br />were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.<br />(Source: OpenSecrets.org)</p>
<p>Co-Author Dr. Steffie Woolhandler of a Recent Harvard Study on Annual Deaths of America’s Uninsured, says the lack of coverage can be tied to about 45,000 deaths a year in the United States. The only way to affordably cover all Americans is through a Medicare-for-All, Single-Payer System. A Single-Payer System would generate $300-$400 billion in administrative savings annually, enough to cover all of the uninsured, and to plug the gaps in coverage for Americans with only partial coverage. Obviously, Medicare-for-all is anathema to the insurance industry. What politicians are doing is saving insurance industry profits, by sacrificing American lives.</p>
<p>12 Million Americans were denied health care coverage by the Medical Industrial Complex because they had a pre-existing medical condition. 12K Americans are denied insurance coverage everyday by a for-profit Insurance bureaucrat. (Source: WaPo Article 05′ by Harvard Prof. E. Warren) </p>
<p>Medical malpractice lawsuits are a hot topic but, are they? Tort Reform is such a “Red Herring” and is easily disproved.  A 2004 report by the Congressional Budget Office said medical malpractice makes up only 2 percent of U.S. health spending. Even “significant reductions” would do little to curb health-care expenses, it concluded. </p>
<p>bush(43) economic speech writer david frum, at least, is willing to admit the idea about selling insurance across state lines is a crock: </p>
<p>New Jersey health policies cost more in large part because New Jersey hospitals and doctors charge more. If I buy a cheaper Kentucky policy that reimburses my providers at Kentucky rates, leaving me to pay the balance, how much good does that do me? And if the Kentucky policy is made to pay New Jersey rates, there vanishes my low Kentucky price.</p>
<p>These are some of the easily refuted arguments bought and paid for by the Medical Industrial Complex to derail any chance of their criminally massive profits being reduced.</p>
<p>Follow the Money: <a href="http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
<p>Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!</p>
<p>(Toll Free # House and Senate)<br />1-866-338-1015 _____ 1-866-220-0044<br />1-800-473-6711 _____ 1-866-311-3405</p>
<p>Sign Single-Payer Petition: <a href="http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
<p>Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.</p>
<p>SEMPER FI!</p>
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		<title>By: shekissesfrogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>shekissesfrogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It sure seems like it should be illegal, first it’s lost on both parties that they are selling the public down the river, and secondly since the trade is for partisan democratic ads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;h/t link to CREW from &lt;a href=&quot;http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/23/crew-files-complaint-against-mike-ross/#comment-47368&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;maggiesboy in another thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Federal bribery law prohibits public officials from directly or indirectly demanding, seeking, receiving, accepting, or agreeing to receive or accept anything of value in return for being influenced in the performance of an official act. Honest services fraud prohibits members of Congress from depriving their constituents, the House of Representatives, and the United States of the right of honest service.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sure seems like it should be illegal, first it’s lost on both parties that they are selling the public down the river, and secondly since the trade is for partisan democratic ads.</p>
<p>h/t link to CREW from <a href="http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/23/crew-files-complaint-against-mike-ross/#comment-47368" rel="nofollow">maggiesboy in another thread</a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>Federal bribery law prohibits public officials from directly or indirectly demanding, seeking, receiving, accepting, or agreeing to receive or accept anything of value in return for being influenced in the performance of an official act. Honest services fraud prohibits members of Congress from depriving their constituents, the House of Representatives, and the United States of the right of honest service.</em></p>
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		<title>By: stritz44</title>
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		<dc:creator>stritz44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agree, totally..Can’t count the number of former soldiers who had that last minute trip to the Doc’s to get out of a training ex or realworld mission..I’m willing to bet it might be prevelant in most cases across the board…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, totally..Can’t count the number of former soldiers who had that last minute trip to the Doc’s to get out of a training ex or realworld mission..I’m willing to bet it might be prevelant in most cases across the board…</p>
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		<title>By: clio</title>
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		<dc:creator>clio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you stritz44.  That squares with what I expected as I work in Tricare clinics.  I also work in Medicare/Medicaid, no insurance clinics.  I can’t say that the mix of patients that I see varies much from clinic to clinic except that in the sliding scale and Medicaid clinics the patients tend to miss more appointments due to work/transport and co-pay problems and to be sicker when they do come in since they don’t do so until they absolutely must. (time off work for self-care jeopardizes jobs).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They also don’t take their chronic meds, including anti-hypertensives, insulin, and post-MI meds as prescribed due to inability to meet even discounted Rx prices all of the time.  (This is less a problem with ‘care/’caid patients).  I hadn’t thought of this as overusing the system, although perhaps you have a point.  When these patients are unable to care for their illnesses early, they set the stage for later catastrophes such as stroke, renal failure with subsequent dialysis, blindness, amputation and chronic cardiac disability.  Patients like that really use time and resources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, I suspect by “abusing the system” you mean patients who go to doctors “unnecessarily.”  That’s a tricky call unless you have in intimate knowledge of the “offending”  patient’s  medical history.  I would say, however, that if such a thing exists, and I’m less and less sure that it does, there is just as much if not more of it at family health, Tricare,  WTU ,and occasionally troop clinics than at civilian facilities - especially just before and during deployments which, as I am sure you know, are more frequent these days.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you stritz44.  That squares with what I expected as I work in Tricare clinics.  I also work in Medicare/Medicaid, no insurance clinics.  I can’t say that the mix of patients that I see varies much from clinic to clinic except that in the sliding scale and Medicaid clinics the patients tend to miss more appointments due to work/transport and co-pay problems and to be sicker when they do come in since they don’t do so until they absolutely must. (time off work for self-care jeopardizes jobs).  </p>
<p>They also don’t take their chronic meds, including anti-hypertensives, insulin, and post-MI meds as prescribed due to inability to meet even discounted Rx prices all of the time.  (This is less a problem with ‘care/’caid patients).  I hadn’t thought of this as overusing the system, although perhaps you have a point.  When these patients are unable to care for their illnesses early, they set the stage for later catastrophes such as stroke, renal failure with subsequent dialysis, blindness, amputation and chronic cardiac disability.  Patients like that really use time and resources.</p>
<p>However, I suspect by “abusing the system” you mean patients who go to doctors “unnecessarily.”  That’s a tricky call unless you have in intimate knowledge of the “offending”  patient’s  medical history.  I would say, however, that if such a thing exists, and I’m less and less sure that it does, there is just as much if not more of it at family health, Tricare,  WTU ,and occasionally troop clinics than at civilian facilities &#8211; especially just before and during deployments which, as I am sure you know, are more frequent these days.</p>
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		<title>By: anticorruption</title>
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		<dc:creator>anticorruption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IS THIS FOR REAL!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are they that out of touch that they can parade corruption on the floor of Congress. Secret back room deals? You have to be kidding me, if it wasnt for the video I would have thought this was political satire! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not going to play well in peoria. This administation and this congress are going to go down in flames with corruption this naked.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS THIS FOR REAL!</p>
<p>Are they that out of touch that they can parade corruption on the floor of Congress. Secret back room deals? You have to be kidding me, if it wasnt for the video I would have thought this was political satire! </p>
<p>This is not going to play well in peoria. This administation and this congress are going to go down in flames with corruption this naked.</p>
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		<title>By: stritz44</title>
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		<dc:creator>stritz44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;stritz is more then willing, I pay $460 a yr for my family plan, then $12 for co-pay….But once again, I served this country 20 yrs and was away from my family on numerous deployments…But neither me nor my family abuses health care which I’m willing to bet is half the problem we currently face.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stritz is more then willing, I pay $460 a yr for my family plan, then $12 for co-pay….But once again, I served this country 20 yrs and was away from my family on numerous deployments…But neither me nor my family abuses health care which I’m willing to bet is half the problem we currently face.</p>
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		<title>By: stritz44</title>
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		<dc:creator>stritz44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yea why not? Have them serve their country for 20 yrs be deployed for a yr at a time from your family then I’ll be all for it…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea why not? Have them serve their country for 20 yrs be deployed for a yr at a time from your family then I’ll be all for it…</p>
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		<title>By: stritz44</title>
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		<dc:creator>stritz44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The funny thing while I was serving my country for 20 yrs I’m sure you were bashing it…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing while I was serving my country for 20 yrs I’m sure you were bashing it…</p>
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		<title>By: Eugenian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Somebody primary this motherfucker!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody primary this motherfucker!</p>
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		<title>By: PaulaT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulaT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So if I make a deal that a separate person or entity will do something, I get to force them to live up to my deal and even fall back on being a pious Golden Rule follower? Let me just make a few deals on this health care plan, then. I don’t care who is doing this, it’s immoral if not illegal. How low have we fallen when support of such outright bribery is painted as a moral obligation?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I make a deal that a separate person or entity will do something, I get to force them to live up to my deal and even fall back on being a pious Golden Rule follower? Let me just make a few deals on this health care plan, then. I don’t care who is doing this, it’s immoral if not illegal. How low have we fallen when support of such outright bribery is painted as a moral obligation?</p>
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