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	<title>Comments on: Snowe Offers Worthless Trigger Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: PublicTakeover</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46841</link>
		<dc:creator>PublicTakeover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you.  Please go viral with this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  Please go viral with this.</p>
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		<title>By: PublicTakeover</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46839</link>
		<dc:creator>PublicTakeover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your are SO RIGHT!!  Please tell the world!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your are SO RIGHT!!  Please tell the world!</p>
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		<title>By: PublicTakeover</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46838</link>
		<dc:creator>PublicTakeover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What horseshit!  Could the American people–the people of Maine, especially, let their elected officials pull off a scam like this?  Holy mackerel, this is stinky!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;13% of AGI &lt;em&gt;AFFORDABLE&lt;/em&gt;???????  She’s off her f**k’n rocker!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What horseshit!  Could the American people–the people of Maine, especially, let their elected officials pull off a scam like this?  Holy mackerel, this is stinky!</p>
<p>13% of AGI <em>AFFORDABLE</em>???????  She’s off her f**k’n rocker!</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46808</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The way I  read the Snowe “trigger” is that the “public option” is not one…it only covers the 5% or more that would fall beyond the criteria she establishes. No one else would be eligible. Thus it’s not an option at all. Those above the criteria, after their tax credits, could not opt for the cheaper publicly offered plan. If less than 5% of the public didn’t qualify within the “Co-Op” model, there would be no “non-profit government corporation” created to generate an affordable plan for them. Screw those poor people. Let them go bankrupt, according to Oly Snowe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Furthermore, this is a state-by-state trigger.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plus the insurers get a “mulligan”…if they don’t meet the criteria, they get a chance to go back and create some sort of high deductable, high co-pay low-benefit “clunker” plan that does fit the limits.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I  read the Snowe “trigger” is that the “public option” is not one…it only covers the 5% or more that would fall beyond the criteria she establishes. No one else would be eligible. Thus it’s not an option at all. Those above the criteria, after their tax credits, could not opt for the cheaper publicly offered plan. If less than 5% of the public didn’t qualify within the “Co-Op” model, there would be no “non-profit government corporation” created to generate an affordable plan for them. Screw those poor people. Let them go bankrupt, according to Oly Snowe.</p>
<p>Furthermore, this is a state-by-state trigger.</p>
<p>Plus the insurers get a “mulligan”…if they don’t meet the criteria, they get a chance to go back and create some sort of high deductable, high co-pay low-benefit “clunker” plan that does fit the limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparkatus</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46805</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparkatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Zactly.  And note that immediately following “Happiness” the Declaration continues: ” — That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men…”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a right and the government’s purpose is to secure that right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zactly.  And note that immediately following “Happiness” the Declaration continues: ” — That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men…”</p>
<p>It’s a right and the government’s purpose is to secure that right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the Mark&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Beginning in 2013, tax credits would be available on a sliding scale basis for individuals and families between 134-300 percent of FPL to help offset the cost of private health insurance premiums. Beginning in 2014, the credits are also available to individuals and families between 100-133 percent of FPL. However, individuals subject to a five-year waiting period under Medicaid or CHIP are eligible for the tax credit beginning in 2013. The credits would be based on the percentage of income the cost of premiums represents, rising from three percent of income for those at 100 percent of poverty to 13 percent of income for those at 300 percent of poverty. Individuals between 300-400 percent of FPL would be eligible for a premium credit based on capping an individual‘s share of the premium at a flat 13 percent of income. For purposes of calculating household size, illegal immigrants will not be included in FPL. Liability for premiums would be capped at 13 percent of income for the purchase of a silver plan. The share of premium enrollees pay would be held constant over time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Mark</p>
<blockquote><p>Beginning in 2013, tax credits would be available on a sliding scale basis for individuals and families between 134-300 percent of FPL to help offset the cost of private health insurance premiums. Beginning in 2014, the credits are also available to individuals and families between 100-133 percent of FPL. However, individuals subject to a five-year waiting period under Medicaid or CHIP are eligible for the tax credit beginning in 2013. The credits would be based on the percentage of income the cost of premiums represents, rising from three percent of income for those at 100 percent of poverty to 13 percent of income for those at 300 percent of poverty. Individuals between 300-400 percent of FPL would be eligible for a premium credit based on capping an individual‘s share of the premium at a flat 13 percent of income. For purposes of calculating household size, illegal immigrants will not be included in FPL. Liability for premiums would be capped at 13 percent of income for the purchase of a silver plan. The share of premium enrollees pay would be held constant over time.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Sparkatus</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46802</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparkatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even in a pre-modern society:&lt;br /&gt;
“…among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness…”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in a pre-modern society:<br />
“…among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness…”</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46801</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A self-evident right. Illness, injury and disease are recognized as the greatest impediment to the obtaining of happiness and the enjoyment of life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“No one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~ John Locke&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the &lt;strong&gt;enjoyment of life and liberty&lt;/strong&gt;, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and &lt;strong&gt;obtaining&lt;/strong&gt; happiness and safety.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~Virginia Declaration of Rights adopted unanimously by the Virginia Convention of Delegates on June 12, 1776 and written by George Mason, is:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~The United States Declaration of Independence&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus the pursuit of the means to live a life without illness or suffering is an inherent right endowed by the Creator. States exist to further the pursuit of those objectives…not to impede them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A self-evident right. Illness, injury and disease are recognized as the greatest impediment to the obtaining of happiness and the enjoyment of life.</p>
<blockquote><p>“No one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions.”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>~ John Locke</p>
<blockquote><p>That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the <strong>enjoyment of life and liberty</strong>, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and <strong>obtaining</strong> happiness and safety.</p>
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<p>~Virginia Declaration of Rights adopted unanimously by the Virginia Convention of Delegates on June 12, 1776 and written by George Mason, is:</p>
<blockquote><p>We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
</p>
</blockquote>
<p>~The United States Declaration of Independence</p>
<p>Thus the pursuit of the means to live a life without illness or suffering is an inherent right endowed by the Creator. States exist to further the pursuit of those objectives…not to impede them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sparkatus</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46800</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparkatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t exactly understand why you wouldn’t go to the trouble first of making the Rs and any allied conservative Ds   actually filibuster. Make them read the phonebook.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t exactly understand why you wouldn’t go to the trouble first of making the Rs and any allied conservative Ds   actually filibuster. Make them read the phonebook.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueCrow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/21/snowe-offers-worthless-trigger-amendment/#comment-46799</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueCrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In a humane, modern society it must be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a humane, modern society it must be.</p>
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