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	<title>Comments on: Three Public Option Amendments Submitted For Baucus&#8217; Bill</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Walker</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46709</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scarecrow, That was Rockefeller original public option he submitted as a bill three months ago. The public option he submitted last Friday as an amendment to the Baucus’ bill was different. from the description:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“For the first three years, those rates are based on Medicare rates with a 5% add-on for practitioners who also participate in the Medicare program.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091909%20AHFA%20Coverage%20Amendments.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;page 13&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarecrow, That was Rockefeller original public option he submitted as a bill three months ago. The public option he submitted last Friday as an amendment to the Baucus’ bill was different. from the description:</p>
<p>“For the first three years, those rates are based on Medicare rates with a 5% add-on for practitioners who also participate in the Medicare program.”</p>
<p><a href="http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091909%20AHFA%20Coverage%20Amendments.pdf" rel="nofollow">page 13</a></p>
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		<title>By: NAVDOC3rdMAR</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46707</link>
		<dc:creator>NAVDOC3rdMAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,&lt;br /&gt;lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,&lt;br /&gt;conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M, j wilson 800K  &lt;br /&gt;were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.&lt;br /&gt;(Source: OpenSecrets.org)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Researchers from Harvard Medical School say the lack of coverage can be tied to about 45,000 deaths a year in the United States. 12 Million Americans were denied health care coverage by the Medical Industrial Complex because they had a pre-existing medical condition. 12K Americans are denied insurance coverage everyday by a for-profit Insurance bureaucrat. (Source: WaPo Article 05′ by Harvard Prof. E. Warren) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Medical malpractice lawsuits are a hot topic but, are they? Tort Reform is such a “red herring” and is easily disproved.  A 2004 report by the Congressional Budget Office said medical malpractice makes up only 2 percent of U.S. health spending. Even “significant reductions” would do little to curb health-care expenses, it concluded. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Citizens for Tax Justice pointed this out. The tax legislation enacted under President George W. Bush from 2001 through 2006 will cost $2.48 trillion over the 2001-2010 period. This includes the revenue loss of $2.11 trillion that results directly from the cheney/bush tax cuts as well as the $379 billion in additional interest payments on the national debt that we must make since the tax cuts were deficit-financed. Over the upcoming decade (2010-2019), the costs of the health care proposals approved by three committees in the U.S. House of Representatives are projected to be around $1 trillion and deficit neutral(that means they’re paid for). In 2010, when all the cheney/bush tax cuts are finally phased in, a staggering 52.5 percent of the benefits will go to the richest 5 percent of taxpayers. The cheney/bush tax cuts were deficit-financed, which increased the national debt and resulted in greater interest payments on that debt. cheney/bush administration never even tried to pay for their tax-cuts. So, for the price of cheney/bush’s tax-cuts for the wealthiest 5%, we could have had Health Care for every American. Instead Americans got bupkus and cheney/bush’s republican campaign contributors/golf buddies got filthy rich off of the Blood Money from No-Bid, Cost-Plus Federal Contracts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Follow the Money: &lt;a href=&quot;http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Toll Free # House and Senate)&lt;br /&gt;1-866-338-1015_______________1-866-220-0044&lt;br /&gt;1-800-473-6711_______________1-866-311-3405&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sign Single-Payer Petition: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SEMPER FI!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.</p>
<p>mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,<br />lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,<br />conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M, j wilson 800K  <br />were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.<br />(Source: OpenSecrets.org)</p>
<p>Researchers from Harvard Medical School say the lack of coverage can be tied to about 45,000 deaths a year in the United States. 12 Million Americans were denied health care coverage by the Medical Industrial Complex because they had a pre-existing medical condition. 12K Americans are denied insurance coverage everyday by a for-profit Insurance bureaucrat. (Source: WaPo Article 05′ by Harvard Prof. E. Warren) </p>
<p>Medical malpractice lawsuits are a hot topic but, are they? Tort Reform is such a “red herring” and is easily disproved.  A 2004 report by the Congressional Budget Office said medical malpractice makes up only 2 percent of U.S. health spending. Even “significant reductions” would do little to curb health-care expenses, it concluded. </p>
<p>Citizens for Tax Justice pointed this out. The tax legislation enacted under President George W. Bush from 2001 through 2006 will cost $2.48 trillion over the 2001-2010 period. This includes the revenue loss of $2.11 trillion that results directly from the cheney/bush tax cuts as well as the $379 billion in additional interest payments on the national debt that we must make since the tax cuts were deficit-financed. Over the upcoming decade (2010-2019), the costs of the health care proposals approved by three committees in the U.S. House of Representatives are projected to be around $1 trillion and deficit neutral(that means they’re paid for). In 2010, when all the cheney/bush tax cuts are finally phased in, a staggering 52.5 percent of the benefits will go to the richest 5 percent of taxpayers. The cheney/bush tax cuts were deficit-financed, which increased the national debt and resulted in greater interest payments on that debt. cheney/bush administration never even tried to pay for their tax-cuts. So, for the price of cheney/bush’s tax-cuts for the wealthiest 5%, we could have had Health Care for every American. Instead Americans got bupkus and cheney/bush’s republican campaign contributors/golf buddies got filthy rich off of the Blood Money from No-Bid, Cost-Plus Federal Contracts.</p>
<p>Follow the Money: <a href="http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
<p>Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!</p>
<p>(Toll Free # House and Senate)<br />1-866-338-1015_______________1-866-220-0044<br />1-800-473-6711_______________1-866-311-3405</p>
<p>Sign Single-Payer Petition: <a href="http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
<p>Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.</p>
<p>SEMPER FI!</p>
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		<title>By: joanneleon</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46705</link>
		<dc:creator>joanneleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As each day goes by it becomes more and more apparent that creating a public plan from scratch is beyond stupid.  How can these senators justify reinventing the wheel when all we have to do is expand Medicare or piggyback on the Medicare infrastructure?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Every senator should have to explain why this is a good idea to his/her constituents.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If only we could get more people to see this.  There should be a national strike.  I think there &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; be a national strike if people really realized what was going on.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before the Baucus bill, I already thought this whole thing had gotten overly complicated — purposely complicated.  Now it’s a lot worse.  Sausage making or not, this is ridiculously overly complicated.  I was hopeful before all these amendments were thrown in.  Now I’m really wondering if we’re going to get this done in any kind of reasonable way.  The SFC bill and all of its amendments should be ditched.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As each day goes by it becomes more and more apparent that creating a public plan from scratch is beyond stupid.  How can these senators justify reinventing the wheel when all we have to do is expand Medicare or piggyback on the Medicare infrastructure?</p>
<p>Every senator should have to explain why this is a good idea to his/her constituents.</p>
<p>If only we could get more people to see this.  There should be a national strike.  I think there <i>would</i> be a national strike if people really realized what was going on.  </p>
<p>Before the Baucus bill, I already thought this whole thing had gotten overly complicated — purposely complicated.  Now it’s a lot worse.  Sausage making or not, this is ridiculously overly complicated.  I was hopeful before all these amendments were thrown in.  Now I’m really wondering if we’re going to get this done in any kind of reasonable way.  The SFC bill and all of its amendments should be ditched.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46704</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ditto.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;what happened to the Prewar intelligence investigation?  Phase I and Phase II of the SSCI seemed to go no where.  Feith and the war team walking the streets while so many have died.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And now we have a war profiteer as the head of that committee. DiFI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ditto.</p>
<p>what happened to the Prewar intelligence investigation?  Phase I and Phase II of the SSCI seemed to go no where.  Feith and the war team walking the streets while so many have died.</p>
<p>And now we have a war profiteer as the head of that committee. DiFI</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46702</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Schumer’s two bites at the apple, especially his third, indicates he’s almost as dedicated as MaxTax to gouging the public option.  His requirement that the public option’s operations mimic those of the privates - does that mean their CEO’s can collect tens of millions for NOT providing medical care and increasing profits? - seems guaranteed to raise costs, not contain them, and to avoid subjecting privates to any meaningful competition.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In many cases, privates already have state- or region-wide monopolies.  A start-up that is limited to mimicking their methods would have little opportunity to compete unless there is also considerable new and better nationwide regulation of insurance practices and the contracts they sell.  In essence, what they sell now should be outlawed.  Unless that happens, Schumer’s plan, like Baucus’, is designed to maintain the status quo for the insuresters.  What else would one expect from the Senator Schemer (D-Bankster)?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schumer’s two bites at the apple, especially his third, indicates he’s almost as dedicated as MaxTax to gouging the public option.  His requirement that the public option’s operations mimic those of the privates &#8211; does that mean their CEO’s can collect tens of millions for NOT providing medical care and increasing profits? &#8211; seems guaranteed to raise costs, not contain them, and to avoid subjecting privates to any meaningful competition.  </p>
<p>In many cases, privates already have state- or region-wide monopolies.  A start-up that is limited to mimicking their methods would have little opportunity to compete unless there is also considerable new and better nationwide regulation of insurance practices and the contracts they sell.  In essence, what they sell now should be outlawed.  Unless that happens, Schumer’s plan, like Baucus’, is designed to maintain the status quo for the insuresters.  What else would one expect from the Senator Schemer (D-Bankster)?</p>
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		<title>By: JacksonAndrew</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46700</link>
		<dc:creator>JacksonAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agree that the Optimal Solution is Single-Payer!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if NOT We need COMPETITION with Private &amp; Public Options = Lower COST Health Care for ALL:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;100% of Citizens use a Nationwide Internet Health Care Exchange showing Private and Public Plans ranked by cost, benefits, deductibles, or co-pays to select best plan for them! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exchange offers Real Competition including Medicare Public Option for FAIR PRICING!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NO Rejections of any kind!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that the Optimal Solution is Single-Payer!</p>
<p>But if NOT We need COMPETITION with Private &amp; Public Options = Lower COST Health Care for ALL:</p>
<p>100% of Citizens use a Nationwide Internet Health Care Exchange showing Private and Public Plans ranked by cost, benefits, deductibles, or co-pays to select best plan for them! </p>
<p>Exchange offers Real Competition including Medicare Public Option for FAIR PRICING!</p>
<p>NO Rejections of any kind!</p>
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		<title>By: JacksonAndrew</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46699</link>
		<dc:creator>JacksonAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;COMPETITION with Private &amp; Public Options = Lower COST Health Care for ALL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;100% of Citizens use a Nationwide Internet Health Care Exchange showing Private and Public Plans ranked by cost, benefits, deductibles, or co-pays to select best plan for them! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exchange offers Real Competition including Medicare Public Option for FAIR PRICING!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NO Rejections of any kind!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COMPETITION with Private &amp; Public Options = Lower COST Health Care for ALL</p>
<p>100% of Citizens use a Nationwide Internet Health Care Exchange showing Private and Public Plans ranked by cost, benefits, deductibles, or co-pays to select best plan for them! </p>
<p>Exchange offers Real Competition including Medicare Public Option for FAIR PRICING!</p>
<p>NO Rejections of any kind!</p>
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		<title>By: bmull</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46698</link>
		<dc:creator>bmull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately for the Public Option–and for democracy–finance committee Dems suggested they will apply a 60-vote criteria to each of the amendments, effectively filibustering themselves before a bill even gets to the floor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From Politico: “the group decided during an afternoon session that the strategy of the markup is to produce legislation that can get 60 votes, according to Baucus and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately for the Public Option–and for democracy–finance committee Dems suggested they will apply a 60-vote criteria to each of the amendments, effectively filibustering themselves before a bill even gets to the floor.</p>
<p>From Politico: “the group decided during an afternoon session that the strategy of the markup is to produce legislation that can get 60 votes, according to Baucus and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).”</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46697</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marcy Wheeler is upstairs!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/18/poppy-bush-not-joining-other-dcis-opposing-investigation-of-w-bushs-torture/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Poppy Bush Not Joining Other DCIs Opposing Investigation of W Bush’s Torture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcy Wheeler is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/18/poppy-bush-not-joining-other-dcis-opposing-investigation-of-w-bushs-torture/" rel="nofollow">Poppy Bush Not Joining Other DCIs Opposing Investigation of W Bush’s Torture</a></p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/19/three-public-option-amendments-submitted-for-baucus-bill/#comment-46696</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/19/784261/-Baucus-Debacle-Amendments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McJoan&lt;/a&gt; does an excellent job with the amendments.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/19/784261/-Baucus-Debacle-Amendments" rel="nofollow">McJoan</a> does an excellent job with the amendments.</p>
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