Today, Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) released the Chairman’s mark of his health care reform bill along with a CBO report on the legislation. I’ve found seven interesting and important issues in the report.
1. It looked like Baucus purposely left himself a small possible giveaway to liberals. His bill in fact saves $49 billion, which could be used to increase subsidies by that amount while still keeping it budget neutral. A little "look, liberals won something":
According to CBO and JCT’s assessment, enacting the Chairman’s proposal would result in a net reduction in federal budget deficits of $49 billion over the 2010–2019 period
2. It appears that the CBO agrees with almost every health care reform expert and also concluded that Conrad’s small state-based co-ops are worthless.
The proposed co-ops had very little effect on the estimates of total enrollment in the exchanges or federal costs because, as they are described in the specifications, they seem unlikely to establish a significant market presence in many areas of the country or to noticeably affect federal subsidy payments.
3. Baucus made sure adding a robust public option would not make his bill much cheaper. This is very technical, but please follow. His plan would base tax credits on the "reference plan," which is the second lowest-cost plan at the "silver" level. The House and HELP bills uses a "reference premium" which is the average of the three lowest-cost plans in an area at a level. Adding a robust public option brings down the average and the cost of the tax credits. Adding a robust public option would be the cheapest plan and therefore would probably not substantially change the "reference plan", since it is the second lowest-cost plan. This means adding a robust public option to this bill would not score as saving as much money and make it even harder to add one using reconciliation in the future. Very clever, Senator Baucus:
The amount of the tax credits for exchange plans in each area of the country would be tied to the premium of the second-lowest-cost plan in the “silver” tier (the “reference plan”), which would have an actuarial value of 70 percent.
4. The individual mandate will be costly to people and hit a lot of Americans, raising $20 billion.
Penalty payments by uninsured individuals, which would amount to $20 billion.
5. It would only reduce the number of uninsured by 29 million. That leaves about 17 million Americans/legal residents uninsured (and around 8 million illegal immigrants uninsured). That means 37% of currently uninsured Americans/legal residents will still be uninsured. Baucus’s bill will only reduce the number of uninsured Americans/legal residents by 63%. Lots of money, no universal coverage, and almost half the uninsured still uninsured.
By 2019, CBO and JCT estimate, the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured would be reduced by about 29 million, leaving about 25 million nonelderly residents uninsured (about one-third of whom would be unauthorized immigrants). Under the proposal, the share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage would rise from about 83 percent currently to about 94 percent.
6. The individual mandate does not apply to Native Americans. Not surprisingly the three Democrats which are part of the “gang of six” come from states (Montana, North Dakota, New Mexico) with disproportionately large Native American populations.
Exemptions from the mandate would also be granted to Native Americans
7. The excise tax on high-end insurance plans is indexed to overall inflation, so over time the tax will hit more and more employer-provided insurance plans.
Except as described below, the threshold would be set (beginning in 2013) at $8,000 for single policies and $21,000 for family policies. After 2013, those amounts would be indexed to overall inflation.



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On number 6, at least they responded to some of the needs of some people within their states.
Native Americans are or are supposed to be covered by IHS – by treaty.
I said something about a week ago concerning the progressives refusing anything without a public option;
and that is the fact that the republicans can switch to support a bill if their corporate contributers tell them to
that means if this bill is good for the health industry then it probably passes even if all
just to let you know, even with no attrition from progressive lawmakers we still might have to deal with this bill as it could easily pass
Wyden on MSNBC Dylan Ratigan’s show this a.m. — making sense. Apparently not a quality found in the Back-Ass Gang of Six vernacular.
Ratigan is a pitbull on the need for a public option to force health insurance companies to compete competitively like every other business must do.
Heading over to the NYT site now…Wyden op-ed.
Citizen perris:
This bill will never survive conference…send the damned thing through the Senate and amend the shit out of it and then reconsile it with the House version. The House of Representatives is where we focus our efforts and that’s where justice will be done …reconcilliation allows for the House of Representatives to write the final version and justice will be done in conference.
FYI…
THERE IS NO SWINE FLU PANDEMIC, and there never was one.
How many members of congress are going to read this bill. My eye glazed over just ready your extracts.
Thank you. I’m hoping some of our congress critters have this blog called up.
If reconciliation is the only way to get it through the senate then it will have to be two bills because a part of the bill is not eligible for the reconciliation process. It would appear to me that the house would have to approve the same two bills in order to move it to the president.
rip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
The first thing we need to change is how politicians make money to run for office!
I’ve thought in the past of going to law school for only bringing law suits for past offenses to Native Americans.
The last thing I want to say is that Baucus needs a public lashing for that bill!
Have been a big fan since my HS days in the early 60s. RIP Mary Travers
We need to practice this kind of close reading. The actual bills will contain a large number of provisions that may seem plausible but are ticking time bombs. These Easter Eggs are all over the current bills, Scarecrow found one in his post on ways the insurance companies can avoid the mandatory enrollment provisions.
because a part of the bill is not eligible for the reconciliation process.
explain please?
…the house would have to approve the same two bills in order to move it to the president.
at this point, I don’t see a bill that I want anywhere near the WH (but as I think I understand it, various bills have come out of various committees?)
Citizen foothillsmike:
Maybe we are at the point here that we need a quick seminar on the reconcilliation process…my understanding is that no matter what goes into the Senate version if the House has a different version it gets duked out in conference and a simple majority is all that is necessary to pass whatever comes out of conference.
Oh wait, you mean the Baucus bill sucks? Who could have predicted? What I don’t get is that Republicans say they won’t support it, a lot of Democrats hate it. So what exactly did Baucus accomplish with his long delay – I mean besides the gift of August to the whack jobs in the Republican base?
That’s my understanding too, Norske. My concern is that is traditionally where all the crap get’s put into it behind closed doors. But in theory at least, it could also work the other way and take the crap out.
It would be nice to keep a running list of those “timebombs” in the bill ( and other bills).
KO reads here and he pulled many points from here for his show. Every time a new “timebomb” is found, the list can be updated and reposted as a fresh post.
But then what comes out of conference has to be approved by the respective bodies.
I just want to say thanks! This is a great place to become better educated about politics.
The reconciliation process is only for budget items. Those regulatory items etc. are not budget items and cannot go through the reconciliation process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R…..on_process
We do need such a primer. My understanding is that the reconcilliation process (as used in context of senate procedures) relates only to bills which would effect the federal budget. If it can be demonstrated that a bill would increase or decrease the federal budget by a specified percentage, it can be treated by the reconcilliation process which cannot be filibustered. Accordingly, every reference I’ve heard indicates that a health policy would have to be split into a number of bills, some of which could be proven to sufficiently pass the criteria and others would have to be voted in the normal procedure (subject to filibuster). I think that is the import of #3 in this post.
Use of the word reconcile to reach agreement on senate and house bills is a different thing.
But I’m with you that it would help for someone to clearly explain senate reconcilliation procedures and the pros/cons regarding passage of a health care program.
this version of the bill is dead right out of the water, right? Somebody please tell me that it is. Presumably Harkin’s moving forward with the HELP version. Where will that stand (for those who really understand the process here)?
On an off topic matter, I was greeted this morning with the following horrifying banner headline on the MSNBC website: “COMING UP: Chat live with new TODAY correspondent Jenna Bush Hager, due at 10 a.m. ET” Um.
What was released yesterday is essentially Baucus proposal. Next week it goes to mark up and then committee vote. At this point all it is is the Baucus proposal.
yes, I get that, but I’m assuming (I hope) that it will have a hard time getting out of its own committee (apparently up to 3? Dems oppose it there).. in which case it’s dead, right? Unless the president throws its weight behind it and demands that they move it out of Baucus’ committee and it gets used as the basis for further work, revisions upon sequential referral. I’d rather it just die and that we start working with HELP version instead, whatever that’ll look like. Presumably it can’t be worse than this.
The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.
mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,
lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,
conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M, j wilson 800K
were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.
(Source: OpenSecrets.org)
12 Million Americans were denied health care coverage by the Medical Industrial Complex because they had a pre-existing medical condition. 12K Americans are denied insurance coverage everyday by a for-profit Insurance bureaucrat. (Source: WaPo Article 05′ by Harvard Prof. E. Warren)
More than 22K Americans between the ages 24-64 die each year because they don’t have adequate health insurance coverage. (Source: Chu, M.C. & J. Rhoades, The Uninsured in America, 96′-07′)
Medical malpractice lawsuits are a hot topic but, are they? Tort Reform is such a “red herring” and is easily disproved. I know repubs love to quote the CBO well here’s a quote, ” A 2004 report by the Congressional Budget Office said medical malpractice makes up only 2 percent of U.S. health spending. Even “significant reductions” would do little to curb health-care expenses, it concluded.”
Citizens for Tax Justice pointed this out. The tax legislation enacted under President George W. Bush from 2001 through 2006 will cost $2.48 trillion over the 2001-2010 period. This includes the revenue loss of $2.11 trillion that results directly from the cheney/bush tax cuts as well as the $379 billion in additional interest payments on the national debt that we must make since the tax cuts were deficit-financed. Over the upcoming decade (2010-2019), the costs of the health care proposals approved by three committees in the U.S. House of Representatives are projected to be around $1 trillion and deficit neutral(that means they’re paid for). In 2010, when all the cheney/bush tax cuts are finally phased in, a staggering 52.5 percent of the benefits will go to the richest 5 percent of taxpayers. The cheney/bush tax cuts were deficit-financed, which increased the national debt and resulted in greater interest payments on that debt. cheney/bush administration never even tried to pay for their tax-cuts. So, for the price of cheney/bush’s tax-cuts for the wealthiest 5%, we could have had Health Care for every American. Instead Americans got bupkus and cheney/bush’s republican campaign contributors/golf buddies got filthy rich off of the Blood Money from No-Bid, Cost-Plus Federal Contracts.
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The president could throw his weight behind it (which I doubt) but the president can’t demand that the congress do anything.
I know.. it’ll be by force of suasion. By “demand” I meant that he’d strongly throw his weight behind it and ask that it be allowed to move forward into sequential. But that concerns me. I’d rather this thing gets killed now before it advances, and the president throw his weight behind another bill instead. It looks like the other alternative is Harkin’s version, which promises to at least be a little better. I asked my question to people’s views on what will happen next (the leadership will push for Baucus’ committee to vote to move it forward, or the president will push for that, as opposed to a scenario where the leadership and the president are tepid and where it dies right now).
The preceding post (that Rockefeller is getting summoned to the WH to be pressured, possibly, on this bill) is not a good sign.
If this piece of crap bill ever gets out of committee then it would have to be combined with the Health committee bill and then voted on by the Senate. During the process of combining I feel that it should be split into a bill that goes through reconciliation and a part that does not.
tactically, I’m saying that I hope they decide to let this fail now and NOT move forward into sequential referral (for combination with the HELP bill). I’m way behind you in terms of it going to a vote by the full Senate and the reconciliation. My question concerned an immediate-term tactical and process issue: namely, what is the prospect of stopping it well before it gets to be point where it is combined, much less voted on. I’d rather it be stopped now.. that it dies in committee, without even bothering with sequential, when people get their hopes up by other committees trying to improve this dog. Sorry for the lack of clarity in my question – it really concerned the minutia and mechanics of legislative process, and you’re more thinking about the bigger picture.
I think that moving the process forward will force the rethugs to shit or get off the pot.
hehe. my suspicion is that they’re so far off the pot that it’s not even funny. They’re not going to be there for this. Period. Even Olympia won’t be there for this unless there’s even further concessions on what is already a totally unacceptable bill.
This may save votes and lowers state and/or federal health care costs, in that many American Indians are lower income and would qualify for the most expensive subsidies and because as a group they may also be most in need of better additional health care.
By leaving American Indians out of improved access to health care, Baucus’ plan does seem to screw those who were here first one more time. How like the U.S. Senate, which consented to all those past treaties – and which for generations has refused to demand an administrative accounting for hundreds of billions of dollars in Indian assets for which the federal government acts as “steward” – to do this one more time.