Ever since the Democrats took over Congress, it’s been one excuse after another as to why nothing but corporate-friendly, anti-progressive legislation gets passed.
We couldn’t end the war because we didn’t have "60 votes" (which they knew was bullshit, as Paul Kanjorski admits in the video).
We had to add $200 billion in tax cuts to the supplemental to make Chuck Grassley happy even though he wouldn’t vote for it.
And despite the fact that 90 Democrats signed a letter in 2007 saying they would vote for no war funding that didn’t include troop withdrawals, only 32 would abide by that promise when it actually mattered — just under the magic 40 needed to block it.
Now when the Republicans are threatening to vote for single payer and it actually stands a chance of passing, members like Joe Baca, Eddie Bernice Johnson, David Scott and Charles Rangel who have cosponsored H.R. 676 in the past say they will not even vote for it. Andre Carson, Linda and Loretta Sanchez, Betty Sutton and Jim Moran won’t commit.
Gotta get under that magic 40 somehow.
As Raul Grijalva said, "I understand the intentions; they’re good, but now I think the American people want results."
So, we’re not going to kick the football this time and say "well, we love you because you’re the one who gets to show up on another issue near and dear to our hearts in numbers insufficient to actually do anything about it, while somebody else ducks their head." Because until we say "nobody leaves the building," we will keep losing on everything.
So we announced a contest. Slinkerwink held the first round over at Kos, but unfortunately there is a crowd of people who weren’t interested in making progressives walk the walk as well as talk the talk, and they took it out on Slinkerwink personally. Since that is not in any way productive to the effort, or fair to her, we are going to have the semifinals and finals at FDL and welcome anyone who enjoyed taking part in the effort to continue doing so here.
So, without further ado, our Day I Semifinalists:
Mike Thompson: Mike Thompson hails from CA-01, which includes Napa, Mendocino and Humbolt counties. With a partisan voting index of D+13, that means his district is safely gerrymandered and he’s got a 13 point advantage over a Republican opponent. He won his last election with 68.2% of the vote vs. 23.3% for the GOP’s Zane Starkewolf. The Green candidate picked up 8.5%.
So why did Thompson join the Blue Dogs? Well certainly not because his district is "conservative" and that’s what he’s got to do to hold it, as we’re told so often. Thompson was one of 45 ConservaDems who signed an angry letter to Obama in May the day after lobbyist stakeholders met with at the White House to announce that they were submitting "proposals" that later became "deals" memorialized in the Baucus bill. They didn’t want to be "left out" of the process.
Thompson has broken with his Blue Dog brethren and supports a public option:
Another key factor in suppressing costs, Thompson said, is introducing a public option to compete with private insurance companies, which will drive costs down. Thompson said plainly that he supports the public option, and that he doesn’t imagine it is possible that any bill will pass the House without one.
Like many members in strong Democratic districts, Thompson talks about the cost-control measures of a public option. Which is great, it’s in keeping with the supposed Blue Dog principle of "fiscal responsibility." But if a public option is not in the offing in a final conference bill, he risks nothing to say it now and vote for something without it. The question is — if he thinks cost control is important to his constituents, why won’t he be one of the mere 40 Democrats it takes to insure that it stays in any health care bill?
Thompson has taken $81,750 this election cycle from the health care industry, including $1,000 from AHIP lobbyist Steve Champlin of the Duberstein Group, who also represents Health Net and Novartis. He also took $1000 from Tom Daschle, who brags about being the guy who stovepipes info from lobbyist deals to members of Congress.
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: Debbie is also in a D+13 district. But she has leadership ambitions, and those aren’t cheap. She says she is working for a public plan but that she’s "not someone who draws lines in the sand." Good DLCer that she is, drawing "lines in the sand" is something she reserves for controlling the budget.
Her donations from health care interests are $34,000 this cycle, but she’s got some heavy hitters. She’s taken money from the PACS of DaVita, Humana, Amgen, GlaxoXmithKlein and Johnson & Johnson, and her personal supporters seem to be big on choosing lobbying as a career. She’s taken contributions from Kelly Bingel, David R. Thomas and Dan Castagnetti from the Mehlman, Vogel and Castagnetti firm, who all represent AHIP. And also $1000 from Karen Ignani personally, the brain trust behind AHIP who helpfully conceived of the blueprint for the Baucus bill.
It will be interesting if Debbie’s lack of "lines in the sand" allow her to scurry over to the AHIP Baucus bill and vote for it if it comes down to it. Will her need to "get something passed" coincidentally allow her to do the very thing that her lobbyist donors want her to? What a win-win that would be.
Danny Davis: Davis was elected to Congress in 1997 and the district has a D+18 PVI. A cosponsor of H.R. 676, he is also the CBC’s Health and Wellness Task Force. He is a signatory to a letter to President Obama dated September 3, stressing the need for"a strong public health option that will allow the nation’s more than 46 million uninsured Americans more than half of whom are people of color to finally have access to affordable, meaningful health care coverage no later than 2013."
How hard will he fight for what he believes in? Well, apparently not at all. The letter doesn’t mention what he said at an August 6 DFA meeting:
Davis said that he told the members of the Progressive Caucus that, “President Obama lives too close and is too popular [for Davis to vote against Obama's bill].” He then said he hopes the President “sticks to his guns.”
Davis has taken $33,000 from health care interests this cycle, including PAC donations from AHIP, The American Hospital Association, Amgen, Baxter Healthcare and Blue Cross Blue Shield. If he winds up casting a vote that gives them everything they want, he apparently plans to hide behind the President.
All of these members are in strong Democratic districts and for one reason or another refuse to take a stand on the thing they say they believe in — having a public option in the final bill.



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DWS, hands down, just because the DCCC put her in charge of the Red-to-Blue program even though she’s never faced a credible GOP opponent or a primary. Having no firsthand knowledge about elections proves you should be in charge of election turnovers at the DCCC.
Gee, makes ya just want to say the hell with it and go on with life.
Me, too. DWS for sure won’t walk the walk.
In the last election didn’t DWS not support the woman in the district adjacent to hers because she was “friends” with the rethug in the race?
My greatest sympathy to Slinkerwink, but using DailyKos for such a purpose was bound to fail. DailyKos is a scary place for people who value independent thinking. The only goal over there is more POWER, ideas and truth be damned.
I also vote for What’shername-Schultz, a DINO if there ever was one.
yeah, it’s debbie. she’s the same twit who refused to support a fellow democrat, anette taddeo, in Florida. In fact, Debbie LOVES republicans:
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen has a 100% rating from the pro-lifers, among other drooling fuckwits.
So i will vote for little sucky Debbie.
Huh? They would vote FOR something?
Citizen Hamsher:
It’s gotta be Davis ‘cuz he’s in the safest district of the three and he has enough seniority not to get pushed around on committee assignments etc AND he’s from Illinois…I’m gettin’ the idea that the Richard Daley Memorial Trust controls the Illinois congressional delegation.
Danny Davis.
I vote for Debbie. She may not be the most egregious of the three, but she has been the most disappointing. I had such high hopes after her spirited action in the Schiavo case. But then she screwed Joe Garcia. And her failure to commit to the public option is a sign that she would represent no change if she moved further into the House leadership. Not to mention that slapping down one of the up and comers would carry more weight than going after back-benchers.
p.s. but ‘lil Debbie has always been a member of the Rahm Emmanuel wing of the Likud Party USA.
I’m having a tough time choosing. These are the sort of feeble excuses you’d expect to hear from an eight year old child about why he hasn’t done his chores.
Sorry slinkerwink had such a tough time at DKos, but I’m not terribly surprised. The place was Obamabot Central during the primaries. Anyone with a contrary point of view wasn’t welcome. Not all of the assholes in politics are on the right, I’m afraid.
Lil’ Debbie seems to be the most excuse-ridden
Lil Debbie, for all the reasons enumerated above.
OT.
A judge just slapped the fruit flavored stuffing out of Orly Taitz and her birther stooge officer client.
McLatchey news has it front paged.
The judge did everything but call her a f*cking idiot and a hack.
By the way, in a just had conversation with a very conservative friend..He said that I was injecting race into the argument by bringing up the birther boobery. It never is boring trying to keep up with these folks.
We really should get them all. Their constituents are probably a lot more angry than we could ever be. Perhaps they will show these crooks who is really boss. The crime is murder, after all.
That quote from Davis also struck me as particularly lame. He’s going to trust Obama because he’s so popular and hope Obama does the right thing? There’s some strong-willed individuality for you.
I would never have doubted Thompson’s good sense until he became a Blue Dog. I’ve known him for years and he never appeared to be like that. I didn’t think he was a great progressive but never a Blue Dog.
I’ve gotta agree with Teddy.
DWS. Gotta find a way to re-calibrate how Dems achieve their “Leadership Ambitions.” IOW make it cost her to play the insiders vs voters game.
Since “all of the above” isn’t really a viable option.
FunnyWheelieDiva
It is almost as if some of these politicos have a pathetic need to belong to something, even a group like the Blue Dogs whose policies their districts do not favor.
I wish I could vote for all three. Since one of them is from Illinois, can I?
Just wanted to compliment slinkerwink and eve for their courage and patience at Daily Kos. They faced coordinated personal attacks by certain centrists and stood up to them without losing their cool. The game the cetnrists paly their is to make the messenger the message, attack her personally, and try to run up “negatives” on slink or eve. This odious tactic can work (see, e.g., Sirota) when the victim loses his or her cool and reacts in anger. Then they attack the angry reaction and the threads spiral into personl attacks back and forth, driving out many readers. People who don’t understand what is happening (causual readers) leave because the diaries are nasty and others pick sides on personalities.
I have seen the same basic group of folks do this over and over against progressives, and they tried it on slink and eve. They operated in waves and with false personal attacks.
Anyway, Slink and Eve were successful in spite of the organized opposition of a few on Daily Kos.
is this it?
FWDiva
Decisions, decisions!
I was going for Danny Davis, sadly, as Norskflamethrower’s conjecture is pretty much true.
Then I noticed that the republican in the Wasserman-Schultz affair was the odious IRL. No excuse at all for that.
DWS it is.
This is all good to know. Thanks for edumacatin’ me. Good on Eve and Slinkerwink…and on Jane for recruiting such smart, savvy allies.
FWDiva
Jane’s up on MSNBC
I voted for Debbie, precisely because she has leadership ambitions. Well, here’s an opportunity for her to show some leadership, rather than so much followership.
Hate to say it, but at this point I’m hoping that no healthcare bill passes. Any legislation capable of surviving a trip through the cesspool known as the US Congress is bound to be deeply flawed. I’m thinking that Obama and the Democrats need to fall on their faces and fail miserably before they wake up and realize who their real constituents are.
Meanwhile, Space Case Nelson in the Senate (the Florida Nelson, not the Nebraska Nelson) is calling PO backers stupid:
Except co-ops won’t and never have.
Debbie, definitely. Hasn’t she dealt with breast cancer, too? That makes it all the more apparent.
Yeah let me also vote for little debbie for a couple of reasons, the main reason is, as the post state,”debbie has blue dog “leadership ambitions” we just dont need any more ambitious leadership from those corporate sponges. the other reason is more personal;she’s not a liberal, but she likes to play one on T.V. debbie loves to put on a rehetorical hairshirt and soap box on talking head cable news shows about “justice” and making corporations pay! it wouldnt be obvious to the unwary that she means she want the corporations to pay her. lets dump debbie.
I’ll munch to that!
FWDiva
The big thing is to keep Rahm and Company from blaming us, which is what they did in 1994: “See, we lost Congress ‘cuz we were too LIBERAL!” (As opposed to losing Congress because they screwed us with NAFTA and DADT.)
What should we be doing now to have a good defense and counter attack ready to go? Some things are surely different than they were in ‘94…
FWDiva
Good gravy, Space Case is sooo, sooooo right.
Because it would be toooooo complicated to implement a publicly-funded, publicly administered health care program.
Like Medicare.
Or Medicaid.
Or Veterans Administration-based health care.
Toooooooooo complicated.
The only thing complicated about this situation is a spine transplant for at least a hundred members of Congress.
And a kneepad-ectomy and a corporate teet-ectomy for the same.
I also want to vote for all, but in lieu of that “public option” I’m going with DWS. A decent primary challenger could take out the other two, but with her leadership ambitions Debbie will be much harder to turn as long as Steny’s around. So putting her in the spotlight on this combined with her other DINO behavior seems like the best choice for now.
Dunno what Danny Davis’ game is. He’s planning to leave Congress anyway and run for the Presidency of the Cook County Board. (I know, I know, only in Chicago would this kind of move make sense).
Or CHIP, or…
I see stupid people. They’re everywhere.
FWDiva
Debbie is the leader in the group. Get the leader to come over and the rest will follow.
DWS – She had promise when first elected (for about 2 months.)
Wasserman-Schultz.
I vote for Debbie also and was going to before I read comments, so there! my independent thinking skillz are still here somewhere.
kinda weenie-ish and excuse ridden, but I also think we stand a chance of shaming her into the right place given enough light and heat.
If she wants a leadership position, then lead.
Dear Jane, I have enjoyed it, and all of the good work that you and the people here do on this issue.
And I will be happy to take part in it. :o)
I didn’t see Baucus’s name in the nominees. Did I miss a qualification?
Because, since he got $122 thou from the healthcare robber barons in the first 6 months of this year, and since he’s gotten $2.8 MILLION from them in the three decades he’s been in the Senate, I think he should get the award.
Of course, maybe Rahm will jump up on the stage, grab the mic out of Baucus’s greedy little hands, and insist that it should go to someone else. But I doubt it.
Can we vote to blackball someone who isn’t even elected yet but probably will be?
In Hawaii, Ed Case was a Blue Dog Democrat who decided to run against Sen. Dan Akaka in 2006 (and lost). This year, Hawaii’s other Congressman, Neil Abercrombie, decided to leave the House and run for Governor, so Case is now running for Abercrombie’s seat. Never mind that this is not the district he represented before.
Case was a co-sponsor of the Credit Card industry’s Bankruptcy “reform” act. He likes to position himself as a Democrat who can work with Republicans– like we need another one of those. Unfortunately, it is not clear if one of Hawaii’s progressive democrats will run against him, so he could be a shoo-in.
There is one good thing that he did: He persuaded Bush to declare the Northwest Territories(?) a “national Monument“, one of the few good things the Bush administration and Ed Case ever did while in office.
Bob who was in HI
I just popped over and peered at the KOS discussion and it didn’t seem too harsh. Am I missing something?
I do see a bit of warfare and sniping between HR676 and HR3200 (which is counterproductive; progressives need to hash our their differences and learn how to march), but nothing really evil.
I only read about a page and a half of comments, though. Did the nasty stuff start after that?
I’m curious partly because I want to know if KOS is just a bunch of Obamabots, or is more open to progressive thinking. I know that Huffington Post has become both more open to progressives lately, as well as more open to the crazy teabagger set.
ah! great point. plus she’s in a seniors-laden state. seems like a win-win for Debbie.
This is for the BS fans on another thread:
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A smoother rooster!!
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Eve and Slink are amazing.
I think we’re seeing the people who are dedicated to a cause vs. people who are dedicated to a personality. Which is why I don’t like to get into the middle of the personality debates — it reinforces the idea that we should find a “champion” and back them. They also lose focus and drift off into irrelevance rather quickly.
Champions ain’t gonna do it. People applying the same yardstick across the board are the ones who are going to get it done. Eve and Slink rock.
I prefer to pick off the weak first myself, but like your reasoning.
Devious Debby, and yes, Dkos is full of Obamabots.
IMHO dKos has a much larger readership, so there are probably more obamabots than here, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re a majority.
My favorite technique for skimming the comments at dKos is to just look at the comments that have received the most attention (first number inside the parentheses on the top line after the headline). I don’t even bother to read the comment if that number is less than 20, unless the topic jumps out at me.
Bob in AZ
Republicans are threatening to vote for single payer? Where the hell is that coming from? Linkage please.
Wouldn’t it be delicious if single payer passes because the Republicans vote for it because they want to thwart the Democrats no matter what?
Maybe that’s the way we should be pursuing this.
Danny Davis, he of the stentorian voice and usually progressive politics, could not lose an election in his district if he was caught with the proverbial dead hooker. Utter nonsense that he claims to be afraid of consequences if he stands up to Obama and insists on a public option. Danny, you get my vote in this contest hands down.
Davis, because he’s in the safest safe seat there is.
If he does leave it to run for Cook County Board President he’ll be a shoo-in for that too because he is not the deservedly despised incumbent, Stroger. Cook County budget is $3billion so it could be seen as a step up from congressman.
Presumably he will bequeath his seat in Congress to a relative. That’s getting to be standard practice lately.
Exactly right.
Dan Froomkin and Glenn Greenwald are other examples of the Principles over Personalities doctrine.
As are Emptywheel and Christy and Spencer and Scarecrow and Attaturk, etc etc here at FDL.
So, Eve and Slink rock, and so do you and the rest of FDL!
FWDiva
While I didn’t see this particular episode, I can attest to the “piling on” of posters at D-kos. It really startled me because I thought as progressives, they would be more open-minded towards others with different views. (This particular thread was on the connection of vaccines to autism and homeopathic remedies). I could not believe the ad hominem attacks and viciousness.
It was the main reason I pretty much stopped going there–I only occasionally go there now to read bill in portland maine or if I happen to catch Meteor Blades.
Li’l Debbie. That Red to Blue incident really put her over the top.
DWS I agree that when she would campaign against ross-leighten (sp) and now that she’s leader ship potential… LET HER LEAD!
I vote for targeting DWS. She helped us with a cute stunt, passing out rubber stamps to republicans during W’s reign, but is entirely too inconsistent in her actions. This comes with a warning. She is fairly high profile and if we fail to take her down, she will be even more belligerent and feel invulnerable, with echoes of Lieberman. If we cannot defeat her pick Davis and just run some ads in DWS district, just enough to get her attention.
Can’t we run real Democrats against all three in the primaries, DWS is perhaps the biggest name, but all are so deserving
They could win many of us over if they did
I kept thinking during the Presidential campaign that McCain before he took Sarah on would start talking Bush administration accountabiliy. he would have taken the White House with that
DWS
While I used to enjoy her and Kendrick Meeks on C-Span as a delightful contrast to Steve King(Nutcake Iowa) her failure to support fellow Democrats in Fla. really chapped my ass.
Thompson. With an almost 10% Green Party vote in the last election, he’s the most vulnerable.