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	<title>Comments on: Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell:  Nancy Pelosi Telling Her Troops They&#8217;re Going To Have To Go Forward Without A Public Option</title>
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		<title>By: bobney</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In response to Leen&lt;br /&gt;
That is such a politically astute posting.  Congressman Space does not need angry liberals like you to win in that district, he knows it. So, idle promises to not support him may make you feel good, but does nothing. I bet Rahm is terrified when he reads your posting. Next month is Halloween, dress up as an intelligent voter and you may scare him.&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the confidence that this former jailbird is controlling the district.  Now, let’s see, I had huge union support, are you calling them thugs, hmmm, I had people from both parties, are they thugs. You are out of the mainstream of the 18th district-shocker!&lt;br /&gt;
My show is balanced and the agenda of the show is to provide information on the issues. If you would tune in you would find that criticism has been of both sides when needed.  So there is no 18th District agenda-tune in, you may learn something.&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for plugging my radio show, you forgot, 1-3 pm monday through friday&lt;br /&gt;
You can tune in as we “take control”  You are entertaining. If you really want to help Congressman Space, endorse his opponent -that will be sure to help him.&lt;br /&gt;
Bob Ney&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Leen<br />
That is such a politically astute posting.  Congressman Space does not need angry liberals like you to win in that district, he knows it. So, idle promises to not support him may make you feel good, but does nothing. I bet Rahm is terrified when he reads your posting. Next month is Halloween, dress up as an intelligent voter and you may scare him.<br />
Thanks for the confidence that this former jailbird is controlling the district.  Now, let’s see, I had huge union support, are you calling them thugs, hmmm, I had people from both parties, are they thugs. You are out of the mainstream of the 18th district-shocker!<br />
My show is balanced and the agenda of the show is to provide information on the issues. If you would tune in you would find that criticism has been of both sides when needed.  So there is no 18th District agenda-tune in, you may learn something.<br />
Thanks for plugging my radio show, you forgot, 1-3 pm monday through friday<br />
You can tune in as we “take control”  You are entertaining. If you really want to help Congressman Space, endorse his opponent -that will be sure to help him.<br />
Bob Ney</p>
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		<title>By: Adam503</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/13/lawrence-odonnell-nancy-pelosi-telling-her-troops-theyre-going-to-have-to-go-forward-without-a-public-option/#comment-45796</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam503</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How did we ever allow ourselvs to let a Baltimore political dynasty to get it’s hands around our Congress?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Baltimore is the only city in that can make the claim they make Chicago politics look clean in comparison. A reminder…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“…Pelosi was born in Baltimore, Maryland. The youngest of six children, she was involved with politics from an early age. Her father, Thomas D’Alesandro, Jr., was a U.S. Congressman from Maryland and a Mayor of Baltimore. Her brother, Thomas D’Alesandro III, also a Democrat, was mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971, when he declined to run for a second term.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pelosi graduated from Institute of Notre Dame, a Catholic all-girls high school in Baltimore, and from Trinity College (now Trinity Washington University) in Washington, D.C. in 1962. Pelosi interned for Senator Daniel Brewster (D-Maryland) alongside future House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer….”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did we ever allow ourselvs to let a Baltimore political dynasty to get it’s hands around our Congress?</p>
<p>Baltimore is the only city in that can make the claim they make Chicago politics look clean in comparison. A reminder…</p>
<p>“…Pelosi was born in Baltimore, Maryland. The youngest of six children, she was involved with politics from an early age. Her father, Thomas D’Alesandro, Jr., was a U.S. Congressman from Maryland and a Mayor of Baltimore. Her brother, Thomas D’Alesandro III, also a Democrat, was mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971, when he declined to run for a second term.</p>
<p>Pelosi graduated from Institute of Notre Dame, a Catholic all-girls high school in Baltimore, and from Trinity College (now Trinity Washington University) in Washington, D.C. in 1962. Pelosi interned for Senator Daniel Brewster (D-Maryland) alongside future House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer….”</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi</a></p>
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		<title>By: CasualObserver</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/13/lawrence-odonnell-nancy-pelosi-telling-her-troops-theyre-going-to-have-to-go-forward-without-a-public-option/#comment-45766</link>
		<dc:creator>CasualObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please.  We need better trolls in here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please.  We need better trolls in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Revolutions are fought by those whose ribs are easily counted.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now,what are those obesity stats for the US, again?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Revolutions are fought by those whose ribs are easily counted.”</p>
<p>Now,what are those obesity stats for the US, again?</p>
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		<title>By: ChangeNow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/13/lawrence-odonnell-nancy-pelosi-telling-her-troops-theyre-going-to-have-to-go-forward-without-a-public-option/#comment-45763</link>
		<dc:creator>ChangeNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Everyone is concerned with the Public Option, and rightly so, but doesn’t it bother anyone that all the reforms touted by Obama in healthcare will be subsidized by all Americans with mandated premiums? Does anyone know what preventative care for all of America will cost you, let alone caps on OOP and no maximum on payment? I have a vague idea and it is keeping me awake at night. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As an example, the end of life consultation was going to be so expensive  (per the CBO)they took it out of the bill. This doesn’t occur as frequently as preventative care.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We wanted insurance reform to make insurance more affordable, we were told that costs were unsustainable, now $8000 per person, going up $1800 over next 10 years. But what would you have thought if Obama said we will reform insurance, but you have to pay for it, for everyone else?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is concerned with the Public Option, and rightly so, but doesn’t it bother anyone that all the reforms touted by Obama in healthcare will be subsidized by all Americans with mandated premiums? Does anyone know what preventative care for all of America will cost you, let alone caps on OOP and no maximum on payment? I have a vague idea and it is keeping me awake at night. </p>
<p>As an example, the end of life consultation was going to be so expensive  (per the CBO)they took it out of the bill. This doesn’t occur as frequently as preventative care.</p>
<p>We wanted insurance reform to make insurance more affordable, we were told that costs were unsustainable, now $8000 per person, going up $1800 over next 10 years. But what would you have thought if Obama said we will reform insurance, but you have to pay for it, for everyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: CasualObserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>CasualObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So did O’Donnell, for that matter.  O’Donnell is the one who pointed out that none of the bills so far stupulate universal coverage. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One other thing about O’Donnell–he is misquoted by Jane in her piece.  She states: “He [O’Donnell] also says that &lt;strong&gt;while nobody fought harder for the public option than Nancy Pelosi&lt;/strong&gt;, now she is “telling her troops they’re going to have to go forward without it. That moment is going to come.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;O’Donnell didn’t state that Pelosi had fought harder than anyone for the PO.  &lt;em&gt;He said that Pelosi will tell her caucus that she did. &lt;/em&gt;  Those are two different things.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So did O’Donnell, for that matter.  O’Donnell is the one who pointed out that none of the bills so far stupulate universal coverage. </p>
<p>One other thing about O’Donnell–he is misquoted by Jane in her piece.  She states: “He [O’Donnell] also says that <strong>while nobody fought harder for the public option than Nancy Pelosi</strong>, now she is “telling her troops they’re going to have to go forward without it. That moment is going to come.” </p>
<p>O’Donnell didn’t state that Pelosi had fought harder than anyone for the PO.  <em>He said that Pelosi will tell her caucus that she did. </em>  Those are two different things.</p>
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		<title>By: tjfxh</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjfxh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have let my Democratic representative and senator know that if they throw the public option under the bus, I will be voting Green until the Democratic Party starts representing the people instead of corporations and the power elite. Letting war crimes pass, escalating in Afghanistan, an selling out to Wall Street, the health insurers, and coal companies is not change I can believe in. Progressives are getting rolled.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have let my Democratic representative and senator know that if they throw the public option under the bus, I will be voting Green until the Democratic Party starts representing the people instead of corporations and the power elite. Letting war crimes pass, escalating in Afghanistan, an selling out to Wall Street, the health insurers, and coal companies is not change I can believe in. Progressives are getting rolled.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Obama is at heart a Blue Dog himself, he would espouse a public option as a gambit in order to make a grand concession by giving in on it in order to close on “a great piece of reform legislation”.  If that’s not his game, he &lt;em&gt;should &lt;/em&gt;be twisting Blue Dog and “centrist” arms to get it.  I don’t see how he can do both.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama knows, whether or not he admits it, that he won’t get a single GOP vote on legislation that, if done well and properly funded by a Democratically controlled Congress, will be the foundation stone for Democratic electoral success for a generation.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama also knows that his health care reform legislation - there’s no other name for it - will do the same for the GOP if it is done badly, if it is not funded or properly overseen by Congress, or if it is merely window dressing for a bankster-like diversion of tax dollars to unreformed private insurers.  Or if quality reforms are delayed five to ten years to give privates that much more time to put their hands up our financial backsides while “accommodating” themselves to competition and new rules of the game.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To paraphrase the young John Kerry’s anti-Vietnam war address to Congress, does Obama want to be the one to tell the many thousands of the dead, the maimed and the bankrupt that their fates were necessary in order to accommodate the needs of a few hundred American CEO’s?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama is at heart a Blue Dog himself, he would espouse a public option as a gambit in order to make a grand concession by giving in on it in order to close on “a great piece of reform legislation”.  If that’s not his game, he <em>should </em>be twisting Blue Dog and “centrist” arms to get it.  I don’t see how he can do both.  </p>
<p>Obama knows, whether or not he admits it, that he won’t get a single GOP vote on legislation that, if done well and properly funded by a Democratically controlled Congress, will be the foundation stone for Democratic electoral success for a generation.  </p>
<p>Obama also knows that his health care reform legislation &#8211; there’s no other name for it &#8211; will do the same for the GOP if it is done badly, if it is not funded or properly overseen by Congress, or if it is merely window dressing for a bankster-like diversion of tax dollars to unreformed private insurers.  Or if quality reforms are delayed five to ten years to give privates that much more time to put their hands up our financial backsides while “accommodating” themselves to competition and new rules of the game.  </p>
<p>To paraphrase the young John Kerry’s anti-Vietnam war address to Congress, does Obama want to be the one to tell the many thousands of the dead, the maimed and the bankrupt that their fates were necessary in order to accommodate the needs of a few hundred American CEO’s?</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Something about the way he said it made me think he was giving his conclusion. I’d like to see him asked a few more questions about what he was told and as much as possible about who told him. Was  it somebody who has been working against the public option? Was the first letter of his first name R? :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something about the way he said it made me think he was giving his conclusion. I’d like to see him asked a few more questions about what he was told and as much as possible about who told him. Was  it somebody who has been working against the public option? Was the first letter of his first name R? :)</p>
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		<title>By: maryinbelltown</title>
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		<dc:creator>maryinbelltown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Send the Congressional Progressive Caucus more progressive talking points.&lt;br /&gt;
Point 1. ActBlue online clearinghouse has raised over one hundred million dollars, $102,513,673.00 in small donations to elect more and better Democrats. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Point 2. Add your own. Good luck everybody this week. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. Dogs don’t have minds - they have appetites.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send the Congressional Progressive Caucus more progressive talking points.<br />
Point 1. ActBlue online clearinghouse has raised over one hundred million dollars, $102,513,673.00 in small donations to elect more and better Democrats. </p>
<p>Point 2. Add your own. Good luck everybody this week. </p>
<p>P.S. Dogs don’t have minds &#8211; they have appetites.</p>
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