Comments on: And Nobody Thought to Say “What Deal”? http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:44:48 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: RFKUS http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45628 RFKUS Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:31:35 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45628 <p>Obama didn’t want the public option which is why he campaigned on it in the primary and the general election? Do you believe 9/11 was an inside job as well?</p> Obama didn’t want the public option which is why he campaigned on it in the primary and the general election? Do you believe 9/11 was an inside job as well?

]]> By: tbau http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45569 tbau Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:01:18 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45569 <p>lmao @ people thinking rahm is going rogue. the much simpler answer is that rahm and the blue dogs are giving obama cover for what he wanted all along.</p> lmao @ people thinking rahm is going rogue. the much simpler answer is that rahm and the blue dogs are giving obama cover for what he wanted all along.

]]> By: milly http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45567 milly Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:43:00 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45567 <p>Lobbyists were writing legislation for 8 years under bush. Democrats did not even get a chance to read it before having to vote.</p> <p>Bill Friske had urgent legislation after 9/11. No overtime for nurses, firefighters and policemen. Just ’cause he and his family owned a chain of hospitals and that cutting out the nurses overtime would have saved them money. …..there was urgency.</p> <p>What has changed? Max Baucus stays holed up for months while the lobbyists write the legislation. Think there will be a big push to rush it through? Once the lobbyists are done that is?</p> <p>When the corporations run the govt. , you are living under fascism. The journalists and MSM aren’t lazy…they are “state media.” Why continure the delusions?</p> Lobbyists were writing legislation for 8 years under bush. Democrats did not even get a chance to read it before having to vote.

Bill Friske had urgent legislation after 9/11. No overtime for nurses, firefighters and policemen. Just ’cause he and his family owned a chain of hospitals and that cutting out the nurses overtime would have saved them money. …..there was urgency.

What has changed? Max Baucus stays holed up for months while the lobbyists write the legislation. Think there will be a big push to rush it through? Once the lobbyists are done that is?

When the corporations run the govt. , you are living under fascism. The journalists and MSM aren’t lazy…they are “state media.” Why continure the delusions?

]]> By: ralphbon http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45521 ralphbon Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:49:51 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45521 <p>I’ve also wanted to know what “deal” Baucus was referring to when he said <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2009/5/29/9320/84640/124#c124" rel="nofollow">this </a>last May at a Kaiser Family Foundation event: </p> <blockquote><p>I think everything’s going to stay on the table, but big portions will be modified and sculpted…. One example is public option. You know, that’s a hot button. And I do suspect that a version will be there. <strong>Now by saying that, I don’t want to frighten people, particularly on the industry side, [who’ll] say, “Uh oh, there they go. Baucus said ‘public option.’ The deal’s off.” </strong>All I’m saying is there are ways to skin the cat, there are ways to find solutions, there are ways I think to do this ultimately in a way that’s acceptable. </p></blockquote> <p>(He probably wasn’t referring to anything specific, but then again….)</p> I’ve also wanted to know what “deal” Baucus was referring to when he said this last May at a Kaiser Family Foundation event:

I think everything’s going to stay on the table, but big portions will be modified and sculpted…. One example is public option. You know, that’s a hot button. And I do suspect that a version will be there. Now by saying that, I don’t want to frighten people, particularly on the industry side, [who’ll] say, “Uh oh, there they go. Baucus said ‘public option.’ The deal’s off.” All I’m saying is there are ways to skin the cat, there are ways to find solutions, there are ways I think to do this ultimately in a way that’s acceptable.

(He probably wasn’t referring to anything specific, but then again….)

]]> By: Patri http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45519 Patri Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:15:15 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45519 <p>You bet that what his boss wants. The boss is the one feeding us the bullcrap after having the meetings and selling us all up the river. LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE, everythiNG Obama has done to date and you see GEORGE III. Yes, we’re screwed. </p> <p>Have you noticed that Baucus is grabbing the climate bill now? When he’s finished with that one and sells cap and trade up the river, we’re all going to drown or be killed in some “natural” disaster, so there’s nothing to worry about. There won’t be any children who get stuck with all the S#@T coming out of this administration and congress. Don’t worry, be happy while you can.</p> You bet that what his boss wants. The boss is the one feeding us the bullcrap after having the meetings and selling us all up the river. LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE, everythiNG Obama has done to date and you see GEORGE III. Yes, we’re screwed.

Have you noticed that Baucus is grabbing the climate bill now? When he’s finished with that one and sells cap and trade up the river, we’re all going to drown or be killed in some “natural” disaster, so there’s nothing to worry about. There won’t be any children who get stuck with all the S#@T coming out of this administration and congress. Don’t worry, be happy while you can.

]]> By: mrsanfran http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45518 mrsanfran Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:22:43 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45518 <p>Hey Jane, what is up with Pelosi? It is totally disgusting how quick they will change their tune. I thought she was solid against anything if it did not have the public option. If you read my post above I think we are at a point where maybe we should join the teabaggers and and defeat this thing hands down. Then maybe we can get a medicare for all bill passed and then join the teabaggers again and scream, keep you hand off our medicare. LOL></p> Hey Jane, what is up with Pelosi? It is totally disgusting how quick they will change their tune. I thought she was solid against anything if it did not have the public option. If you read my post above I think we are at a point where maybe we should join the teabaggers and and defeat this thing hands down. Then maybe we can get a medicare for all bill passed and then join the teabaggers again and scream, keep you hand off our medicare. LOL>

]]> By: mrsanfran http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45514 mrsanfran Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:02:43 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45514 <p>I think I am more and more going with the original Republican position of no reform. Sadly Obama has compromised himself and deceived the public and this now anemic whats left of it, public option, that I wquld rather wait another year or two and let the whole health care system collapse. Nothing is going into effect until 2013 anyway, so what do we have to lose?</p> I think I am more and more going with the original Republican position of no reform. Sadly Obama has compromised himself and deceived the public and this now anemic whats left of it, public option, that I wquld rather wait another year or two and let the whole health care system collapse. Nothing is going into effect until 2013 anyway, so what do we have to lose?

]]> By: newtonusr http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45513 newtonusr Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:00:42 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45513 <p>Bad link for me.</p> Bad link for me.

]]> By: Cujo359 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45512 Cujo359 Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:58:37 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45512 <p>Andy Card CoS to George W. Bush <a href="http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2004/04/0/News/White.House.Chief.Of.Staff.Describes.Role.Principles.Concerns-651541.shtml" rel="nofollow">describes the job</a>.</p> Andy Card CoS to George W. Bush describes the job.

]]> By: Cujo359 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45510 Cujo359 Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:40:26 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/12/and-nobody-thought-to-say-what-deal/#comment-45510 <p>Yes, within any reasonable margin of error. A chief of staff is about the most important person an executive appoints. He’s the one who makes the staff do what they’re supposed to. In the case of the President, he’s usually in charge of the President’s schedule. Ideally, not only are an executive and his CoS on the same page, but they can finish each others’ conversations.</p> <p>If Emanuel isn’t a reflection of Obama’s own philosophy and poltical beliefs, then Obama was an idiot for hiring him. I don’t think for a moment that Obama is an idiot.</p> Yes, within any reasonable margin of error. A chief of staff is about the most important person an executive appoints. He’s the one who makes the staff do what they’re supposed to. In the case of the President, he’s usually in charge of the President’s schedule. Ideally, not only are an executive and his CoS on the same page, but they can finish each others’ conversations.

If Emanuel isn’t a reflection of Obama’s own philosophy and poltical beliefs, then Obama was an idiot for hiring him. I don’t think for a moment that Obama is an idiot.

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