Comments on: Joe Wilson and AHIP Team Up to Write Max Baucus’s Health Care Bill http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:53:17 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: chabuka http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45456 chabuka Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:30:38 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45456 <p>MrCleaveland..what part of the Bill (that hasn’t even left the House or been debated or been passed or even signed into law) have you read that convinces you that Obama is lying…? or did Rush, Glenn or Sean tell you to think that..(because you can’t read or comprehend?)….why don’t you just come out and say what you really think..”Obama, you are black, go back to Africa!” (after all, this is a White Nation..we stole it away from the American Indians,(had to kill a great many of them, trick, starve and force them onto reservations) but we won, fair and square!)</p> MrCleaveland..what part of the Bill (that hasn’t even left the House or been debated or been passed or even signed into law) have you read that convinces you that Obama is lying…? or did Rush, Glenn or Sean tell you to think that..(because you can’t read or comprehend?)….why don’t you just come out and say what you really think..”Obama, you are black, go back to Africa!” (after all, this is a White Nation..we stole it away from the American Indians,(had to kill a great many of them, trick, starve and force them onto reservations) but we won, fair and square!)

]]> By: NAVDOC3rdMAR http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45430 NAVDOC3rdMAR Sat, 12 Sep 2009 04:57:02 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45430 <p>The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.<br /><br />mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,<br />lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,<br />conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M, j wilson 800K <br />were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.</p> <p>Citizens for Tax Justice pointed this out. The tax legislation enacted under President George W. Bush from 2001 through 2006 will cost $2.48 trillion over the 2001-2010 period. This includes the revenue loss of $2.11 trillion that results directly from the Bush tax cuts as well as the $379 billion in additional interest payments on the national debt that we must make since the tax cuts were deficit-financed. Over the upcoming decade (2010-2019), the costs of the health care proposals approved by three committees in the U.S. House of Representatives are projected to be around $1 trillion and deficit neutral(that means they’re paid for). In 2010, when all the Bush tax cuts are finally phased in, a staggering 52.5 percent of the benefits will go to the richest 5 percent of taxpayers. The Bush tax cuts were deficit-financed, which increased the national debt and resulted in greater interest payments on that debt. They never even tried to pay for their tax-cuts. So, for the price of bush’s tax-cuts for the wealthiest 5%, we could have had Health Care for every American. Instead Americans got bupkus and cheney/bush’s republican buddies got filthy rich off of the Blood Money from No-Bid, Cost-Plus Federal Contracts.<br /><br /><br />12 Million Americans were denied Health Care Coverage by the Medical Industrial Complex because they had a Pre-Existing Medical Condition. 12K Americans lose Insurance Coverage everyday. Over 18K Americans die each day because they lack health insurance. (Source: WaPo Article 05′ by Harvard Prof. E. Warren)<br /><br /><br />Follow the Money: <a href="http://hmc-lavadogs.livejournal.com/20128.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a><br /><br />Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!<br /><br />Sign Single-Payer Petition: <a href="http://www.singlepayeraction.org/join.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a><br /><br />Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.<br /><br />SEMPER FI!</p> The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.

mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,
lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,
conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M, j wilson 800K
were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.

Citizens for Tax Justice pointed this out. The tax legislation enacted under President George W. Bush from 2001 through 2006 will cost $2.48 trillion over the 2001-2010 period. This includes the revenue loss of $2.11 trillion that results directly from the Bush tax cuts as well as the $379 billion in additional interest payments on the national debt that we must make since the tax cuts were deficit-financed. Over the upcoming decade (2010-2019), the costs of the health care proposals approved by three committees in the U.S. House of Representatives are projected to be around $1 trillion and deficit neutral(that means they’re paid for). In 2010, when all the Bush tax cuts are finally phased in, a staggering 52.5 percent of the benefits will go to the richest 5 percent of taxpayers. The Bush tax cuts were deficit-financed, which increased the national debt and resulted in greater interest payments on that debt. They never even tried to pay for their tax-cuts. So, for the price of bush’s tax-cuts for the wealthiest 5%, we could have had Health Care for every American. Instead Americans got bupkus and cheney/bush’s republican buddies got filthy rich off of the Blood Money from No-Bid, Cost-Plus Federal Contracts.

12 Million Americans were denied Health Care Coverage by the Medical Industrial Complex because they had a Pre-Existing Medical Condition. 12K Americans lose Insurance Coverage everyday. Over 18K Americans die each day because they lack health insurance. (Source: WaPo Article 05′ by Harvard Prof. E. Warren)

Follow the Money: Link

Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!

Sign Single-Payer Petition: Link

Don’t let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.

SEMPER FI!

]]> By: tk1200 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45403 tk1200 Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:25:52 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45403 <p>Truer words were never spoken.</p> Truer words were never spoken.

]]> By: brendanscalling http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45185 brendanscalling Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:17:26 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45185 <p>mrcleaveland is, i fear, a troll.</p> <p>-sigh-.</p> <p>poor dude thinks he’s dealing with noobs. Well, we are aware of ALL internet traditions.</p> mrcleaveland is, i fear, a troll.

-sigh-.

poor dude thinks he’s dealing with noobs. Well, we are aware of ALL internet traditions.

]]> By: Bullsmith http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45099 Bullsmith Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:10:01 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45099 <p>I see MrCleaveland is relying on his impeccable reputation to back up his accusation that Obama is lying. Wise move, since the facts weren’t going to help his argument much.</p> I see MrCleaveland is relying on his impeccable reputation to back up his accusation that Obama is lying. Wise move, since the facts weren’t going to help his argument much.

]]> By: oldtree http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45085 oldtree Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:52:46 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45085 <p>these are the times that try men’s souls, or so the story goes. We live in a land run by corruption. We face it and allow them to continue, or we end it. The morons that believe private enterprise is better for those “Big” things have nothing to base it on except their greed. Private Police? Works out great. Fire? Sure, if you haven’t pissed off the owner of the company, they might put out your fire. Private military? Sure, Blackwater and Pinkerton’s are great examples. Murdered Inc.<br /> The Greed has won those select folks over to it’s side. They must truly believe that the amount of bread will make the shit sandwich taste better. But as another old saying goes, if you rule unjustly, you have plenty of people waiting to take you down. Some for the job itself because they liked your style and wanted it, some for your actions against them. These folks have no friends, they can’t afford friends. It gets in the way of the money.<br /> There is no choice but to nationalize numerous “private” institutions of our country. The longer we wait, the less chance of saving the institutions at all. The Greed will scream at you for suggesting the possibility of a dialog about setting the terms for a potential meeting that everyone will have to agree on our side about so we will get back to you. The longer we wait, the longer the two opposing forces will have to entrench, or to move. People in our country are clearly not collectively very aware. Do people that live where no food is produced have any idea of what will happen if their supply is cut off? Do 95% of the people ignore that their life is not sustainable the way things are?<br /> I wonder what part of the country is worth saving if it suffers a major disaster? New Orleans wasn’t. There is no substantial National Guard presence in any state to help with emergencies. They are off fighting to become policemen in Iraq or Afghanistan. The governor’s recently told the feds to go to hell about their state guard being under the army’s control and not the governor. Posse Comitatus may not be required if the army wins the argument.</p> these are the times that try men’s souls, or so the story goes. We live in a land run by corruption. We face it and allow them to continue, or we end it. The morons that believe private enterprise is better for those “Big” things have nothing to base it on except their greed. Private Police? Works out great. Fire? Sure, if you haven’t pissed off the owner of the company, they might put out your fire. Private military? Sure, Blackwater and Pinkerton’s are great examples. Murdered Inc.
The Greed has won those select folks over to it’s side. They must truly believe that the amount of bread will make the shit sandwich taste better. But as another old saying goes, if you rule unjustly, you have plenty of people waiting to take you down. Some for the job itself because they liked your style and wanted it, some for your actions against them. These folks have no friends, they can’t afford friends. It gets in the way of the money.
There is no choice but to nationalize numerous “private” institutions of our country. The longer we wait, the less chance of saving the institutions at all. The Greed will scream at you for suggesting the possibility of a dialog about setting the terms for a potential meeting that everyone will have to agree on our side about so we will get back to you. The longer we wait, the longer the two opposing forces will have to entrench, or to move. People in our country are clearly not collectively very aware. Do people that live where no food is produced have any idea of what will happen if their supply is cut off? Do 95% of the people ignore that their life is not sustainable the way things are?
I wonder what part of the country is worth saving if it suffers a major disaster? New Orleans wasn’t. There is no substantial National Guard presence in any state to help with emergencies. They are off fighting to become policemen in Iraq or Afghanistan. The governor’s recently told the feds to go to hell about their state guard being under the army’s control and not the governor. Posse Comitatus may not be required if the army wins the argument.

]]> By: Leen http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45082 Leen Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:46:56 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45082 <p>There was no way that Rahm wanted Howard Dean in the Obama administration pushing for single payer or at least single payer as a starting point. Public option as the compromise.</p> <p>No it had to be the Insurance companies writing the legislation. Howard Dean would have gotten in Rahm’s way CCChhing!</p> There was no way that Rahm wanted Howard Dean in the Obama administration pushing for single payer or at least single payer as a starting point. Public option as the compromise.

No it had to be the Insurance companies writing the legislation. Howard Dean would have gotten in Rahm’s way CCChhing!

]]> By: whataretheysmoking http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45081 whataretheysmoking Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:46:14 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45081 <p>joe wilson and his 4 sons get government-run healthcare through tricare. they have veteran’s healthcare, while joe wilson has voted against it 11 times n the past 8 years.<br /><a href="http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thehumancondition/archive/2009/09/10/joe-wilson-healthcare-hypocrite.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs.....crite.aspx</a></p> joe wilson and his 4 sons get government-run healthcare through tricare. they have veteran’s healthcare, while joe wilson has voted against it 11 times n the past 8 years.
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs…..crite.aspx

]]> By: brendanscalling http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45080 brendanscalling Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:40:28 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45080 <p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_illegal_immigrants_fact_check" rel="nofollow">no he’s not…</a></p> <p>but hey, keep telling yourself what you like to hear. fantasy is SO much more entertaining than reality.</p> no he’s not…

but hey, keep telling yourself what you like to hear. fantasy is SO much more entertaining than reality.

]]> By: Blub http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45078 Blub Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:34:37 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/11/joe-wilson-and-ahip-team-up-to-write-max-baucuss-health-care-bill/#comment-45078 <p>*sigh* I thought we already had this discussion…</p> *sigh* I thought we already had this discussion…

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