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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Speech: Trapped In the Gap Between Action and Rhetoric</title>
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		<title>By: hipparchia</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/obamas-speech-trapped-in-the-gap-between-action-and-rhetoric/#comment-45394</link>
		<dc:creator>hipparchia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think you’re right about the grass roots being able to make up what is really a fairly paltry sum, but big pharma apparently also agreed to not launch any harry and louise anti-reform ads too. no way could the little people come up with enough money to counter &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you’re right about the grass roots being able to make up what is really a fairly paltry sum, but big pharma apparently also agreed to not launch any harry and louise anti-reform ads too. no way could the little people come up with enough money to counter <em>that</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamus</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/obamas-speech-trapped-in-the-gap-between-action-and-rhetoric/#comment-45179</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the response and the info. I see they used “creative accounting techniques” to make the grassroots’ contribution appear much more historic than it actually was. Still, the President wouldn’t have to give up all corporate dollars, just the $150,000,000 (I think that’s right) that was the PhRMA deal he and Rahm made. Surely, the grassroots could have matched any dollar amount he got from that deal; that’s why I don’t understand why he and Rahm felt so strongly to have made it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response and the info. I see they used “creative accounting techniques” to make the grassroots’ contribution appear much more historic than it actually was. Still, the President wouldn’t have to give up all corporate dollars, just the $150,000,000 (I think that’s right) that was the PhRMA deal he and Rahm made. Surely, the grassroots could have matched any dollar amount he got from that deal; that’s why I don’t understand why he and Rahm felt so strongly to have made it.</p>
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		<title>By: hipparchia</title>
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		<dc:creator>hipparchia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/study-obamas-small-donors-really-werent/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Study: Many Obama Small Donors Really Weren’t&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A new analysis of President-elect Barack Obama’s campaign fund-raising punctures one of the most enduring pieces of conventional wisdom from his presidential run — that small donors powered his record-breaking money machine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[…]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; The institute found that while nearly 50 percent of Mr. Obama’s donations came in individual contributions of $200 or less, in reality, only 26 percent of the money he collected through Aug. 31 during the primary and 24 percent of his money through Oct. 15 came from contributors whose total donations added up to $200 or less. The data is the most recent available.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those figures are actually in the same range as the 25 percent President Bush raised in 2004 from donors whose contributions aggregated to $200 or less, the 20 percent Senator John F. Kerry collected from such donors and Senator John McCain’s 21 percent from the same group. Meanwhile, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton collected just 13 percent from such donors during her run but former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean brought in 38 percent of his donations from small donors fitting this description.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/us/politics/17obama.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama’s Camp Cultivates Crop in Small Donors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Like other candidates, he has worked hard to cultivate a network of bundlers, who can solicit the checks from individual donors for the legal maximum of $2,300 that are the mainstay of any major campaign. But to capitalize on his celebrity, Mr. Obama’s campaign has also employed novel tactics — like counting sales of $5 speech tickets or $4.50 Obama key chains as individual contributions — to pump up his numbers and transform grass-roots enthusiasm into more useful forms of support. No other campaign is known to have listed paraphernalia sales as donations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/study-obamas-small-donors-really-werent/" rel="nofollow">Study: Many Obama Small Donors Really Weren’t</a></p>
<blockquote><p>A new analysis of President-elect Barack Obama’s campaign fund-raising punctures one of the most enduring pieces of conventional wisdom from his presidential run — that small donors powered his record-breaking money machine.</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p> The institute found that while nearly 50 percent of Mr. Obama’s donations came in individual contributions of $200 or less, in reality, only 26 percent of the money he collected through Aug. 31 during the primary and 24 percent of his money through Oct. 15 came from contributors whose total donations added up to $200 or less. The data is the most recent available.</p>
<p>Those figures are actually in the same range as the 25 percent President Bush raised in 2004 from donors whose contributions aggregated to $200 or less, the 20 percent Senator John F. Kerry collected from such donors and Senator John McCain’s 21 percent from the same group. Meanwhile, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton collected just 13 percent from such donors during her run but former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean brought in 38 percent of his donations from small donors fitting this description.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/us/politics/17obama.html" rel="nofollow">Obama’s Camp Cultivates Crop in Small Donors</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Like other candidates, he has worked hard to cultivate a network of bundlers, who can solicit the checks from individual donors for the legal maximum of $2,300 that are the mainstay of any major campaign. But to capitalize on his celebrity, Mr. Obama’s campaign has also employed novel tactics — like counting sales of $5 speech tickets or $4.50 Obama key chains as individual contributions — to pump up his numbers and transform grass-roots enthusiasm into more useful forms of support. No other campaign is known to have listed paraphernalia sales as donations.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was just rereading this post, and I wanted to ask you a question in regards to your following quote. “Of course, the actions of the White House betray quite a different intent.  The deals they have negotiated with health care industry stakeholders do not include a public plan, they don’t believe they can back out of them without triggering a rush of lobbyist money to GOP coffers.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most every post I’ve read over the past several months concerning the real roadblock to the public option keeps coming back to this point. Obama raised nearly a half billion dollars on the campaign trail last year, and it was my impression that it was mostly from the grassroots (correct me if I’m wrong). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My question is how much money do Obama and Rahm think they need for the reelections (2010/2012), above and beyond what the grassroots can give (hell, we could raise a billion dollars from the grassroots alone if that’s what it took), that they’re willing to sell out the American people for corporate dollars, when they know that we will all know about the sellout come next election time? Health care corporations aren’t going to give Republicans a billion dollars.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, in addition to that, given that the Republican Party is imploding, most likely all they’ll have for candidates to run against Democrats next time are ignorant buffoons. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the disorganized rambling; it’s late and I’m tired.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane,</p>
<p>I was just rereading this post, and I wanted to ask you a question in regards to your following quote. “Of course, the actions of the White House betray quite a different intent.  The deals they have negotiated with health care industry stakeholders do not include a public plan, they don’t believe they can back out of them without triggering a rush of lobbyist money to GOP coffers.”</p>
<p>Most every post I’ve read over the past several months concerning the real roadblock to the public option keeps coming back to this point. Obama raised nearly a half billion dollars on the campaign trail last year, and it was my impression that it was mostly from the grassroots (correct me if I’m wrong). </p>
<p>My question is how much money do Obama and Rahm think they need for the reelections (2010/2012), above and beyond what the grassroots can give (hell, we could raise a billion dollars from the grassroots alone if that’s what it took), that they’re willing to sell out the American people for corporate dollars, when they know that we will all know about the sellout come next election time? Health care corporations aren’t going to give Republicans a billion dollars.</p>
<p>And, in addition to that, given that the Republican Party is imploding, most likely all they’ll have for candidates to run against Democrats next time are ignorant buffoons. </p>
<p>Sorry for the disorganized rambling; it’s late and I’m tired.</p>
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		<title>By: hipparchia</title>
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		<dc:creator>hipparchia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Speaking of Pelosi … Does anybody really believe “We Can Find $500 Billion By ‘Squeezing Excesses’ Out Of Medicare/Medicaid, Half Of 1 Trillion Dollar Price Tag Will Be Paid For By ‘Cuts’”.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not sure why you’re blaming this on nancy pelosi. it’s obama and orszag and many of his economic advisors who believe this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Speaking of Pelosi … Does anybody really believe “We Can Find $500 Billion By ‘Squeezing Excesses’ Out Of Medicare/Medicaid, Half Of 1 Trillion Dollar Price Tag Will Be Paid For By ‘Cuts’”.</em></p>
<p>not sure why you’re blaming this on nancy pelosi. it’s obama and orszag and many of his economic advisors who believe this.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveCan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveCan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of Pelosi … Does anybody really believe “We Can Find $500 Billion By ‘Squeezing Excesses’ Out Of Medicare/Medicaid, Half Of 1 Trillion Dollar Price Tag Will Be Paid For By ‘Cuts’”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nancy is good for a laugh and that’s about all anymore.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Pelosi … Does anybody really believe “We Can Find $500 Billion By ‘Squeezing Excesses’ Out Of Medicare/Medicaid, Half Of 1 Trillion Dollar Price Tag Will Be Paid For By ‘Cuts’”.</p>
<p>Nancy is good for a laugh and that’s about all anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:RFKUS@114:&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RFKUS@114:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too bad on the numbers.  Just keep sending up a bill with the P.O. and let the repubs vote it down.   After 8 years of one clusterfuckup after another one, how many obstructionist “NO” votes do you think they can stand?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think not many, and when the mid-terms get here, we can collect on that little bill, all over again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:RFKUS@114:" rel="nofollow">RFKUS@114:</a></p>
<p>Too bad on the numbers.  Just keep sending up a bill with the P.O. and let the repubs vote it down.   After 8 years of one clusterfuckup after another one, how many obstructionist “NO” votes do you think they can stand?</p>
<p>I think not many, and when the mid-terms get here, we can collect on that little bill, all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And Wilson’s shithouse-rat-lunacy had a prequel.  Here’s a clip from Kos, showing it:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Wilson’s shithouse-rat-lunacy had a prequel.  Here’s a clip from Kos, showing it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: PaulaT</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/obamas-speech-trapped-in-the-gap-between-action-and-rhetoric/#comment-44870</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulaT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How about if the mandates are set up with the same trigger as the public option? Corporations get what they want immediately and the people get to wait, like we’re still waiting for foreclosure and credit help. But the corporate powers are so interested in paying us back for stepping up and helping them out first that it was all worth it, right?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about if the mandates are set up with the same trigger as the public option? Corporations get what they want immediately and the people get to wait, like we’re still waiting for foreclosure and credit help. But the corporate powers are so interested in paying us back for stepping up and helping them out first that it was all worth it, right?</p>
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		<title>By: PaulaT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulaT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That was pretty late in the game that Bachmann’s opponent got all that money. Hopefully, this money is coming in early enough to plan out and execute a great campaign.  I was glad to read that Wilson’s opponent is a progressive, too, not just a Democrat. Anything would be better than rude racist guy, but still nice to get a lot better instead of just marginally better.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was pretty late in the game that Bachmann’s opponent got all that money. Hopefully, this money is coming in early enough to plan out and execute a great campaign.  I was glad to read that Wilson’s opponent is a progressive, too, not just a Democrat. Anything would be better than rude racist guy, but still nice to get a lot better instead of just marginally better.</p>
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