Go Jane,Go Raull………………..

NEVER SURRENDER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..38;index=0

HAhahahahahaahaha
i played the youtube to the staffer

I just wrote to the president (info@barackobama.com and president@whitehouse.gov)

Dear Mr President,

I worked for your campaign. At times I’ve been critical of your decisions and I expect I will continue to try to keep you “walking the walk” that your campaign speeches inspired me to hope would be your policies.

Health care reform is already compromised from the single payer plan that could solve problems to a public insurance option that isn’t clearly going to hold down costs. A public option needs to be available as soon as possible, it needs to be able to negotiate with the power that comes from having a large pool of people if cost control is going to happen.

Simply reforming insurance to disallow exclusion for pre-existing conditions isn’t enough. Writing into law a 30% administrative and profit margin (70% expense ratio) for insurance will assure increasing costs expense rations should be pushed to 90% or more, and a robust public option would do this.

If you want to have the commitment of people like myself in 2012 you need to stand up tomorrow when you address Congress. Promise to veto any bill that does not offer a public option, no triggers, no co-ops. I worked to elect you for nothing less than this.

I hope you want to do the right thing without politics entering into the calculus, but the political calculus of losing most of the supporters that donated to your campaign and turned out the vote to elect you should make your decision easier.

Please act to keep my support and the support of hundreds of thousands like me that worked for your election.

Do what’s right.

Walk the walk.

We must have a public option.
“But Raul Grijalva is cracking the whip and maintaining discipline, and says accepting “triggers” is unacceptable”.
“Simply reforming insurance to disallow exclusion for pre-existing conditions isn’t enough.”

Email this to the White House.

Is this guy a representative? You’ve got to be kidding!

Army Spc. Gregory James Missman died in Afghanistan after suffering wounds from an improvised explosive device in July.

Missman, 36, re-enlisted in the military after being laid off from his job as a computer consultant. Missman served in the Army 11 years earlier.

According to Missman’s father, health care is what pushed his son back into service. After losing his job, Missman’s young family, a wife and son were no longer insured.

Called CPC’s co-chair Woolsey this morning to thank her for her work and encourage CPC to continue fighting triggers. Staffer said that she was “not aware” of the issue of triggers. WTF?!?

Don’t feed the troll.

Seem to be drawing more of them lately.

Geez, learn some grammar.

they say too many extenz tabs can make one excitable :D

Called, thanked, thank you Jane!

HAHAHA

Poor little stoopid critters.

He’s great!

I see you are trolling here now also.

Is there a list somewhere on the site of who is on board? I know who two of the seventeen are, but not the rest.

Little racist Sambot is back? Chasing Tigers into Ghee?

The list is on the “I believe in fairy tales” site.

Just had to go there, eh?

See what happens to someone the schoolyard bullys beat the crap out of every day.

Some of the follow up posts to this one have a list.

I expect that we’ll see a fresh update on a post in the next day or so… 17 seems a bit low given we had 15 pledged 2.5 weeks ago (with another 51 that were close to signing.

The White House is hammering the 60 progressive House members who pledged to vote against any health care bill that does not have a public option,

Rahm is doing the hammering but how much can he undermine Obama before we start thinking that Rahm is really doing what Obama wants?

Sambutt,are they paying you minimum wage yet to troll……

i hear ya…………….sad/mad face

I would hazard to say that the only thing that’s got the crap beat out of it is the public option. That turkey has been beaten flat.

Obama says you got to pay to play.

If you ignore it it will go away.

Like your healthcare!

Thats cause they are scared they disrupt debate because they have no ideas to debate. Heck on the ideas we are harsher critics of Obama logically than they ever were its sad. Sad that we are more critical of ourselves for not being more of what we want to be than the GOPers can be even though they hate what we want to be.
If Peterr’s thread is the best the GOP has as a reason to be Outraged then the Anger Junkies must be going through withdrawl.

Yeah…easy target…when you are so…so…so obvious. Your name and that dig on Grijalva, jeesh.

BTW To the other folks… I’ve been working on my Rep. Doris Matsui. I think she can be brought around since she works with Health Care issues. Her husband Bob died from a rapidly progressing illness and she is sympathetic to people in similar circumstances. She usually “follows the leader” but I think on some issues she might stand with progressives like Eshoo…and this might be one of them.

terrible,and sad………….

Only you can “go there” is that your point? Or did you actually have a point?

I lurk here almost all day every day and rarley comment but your shit, including self appointed grammar policing, is just a bit over the top. Because I rarley comment I don’t give a fuck if I get banned. Oh, and most of the commenters here are to polite to tell you. So I’ll tell; you are an [Edited by Mod].

Not just a run of the mill [Edited by Mod] A special [Edited by Mod]. You have yourself convinced that you are actually informed and can add something to a discussion. What is abundantly clear is that you spew whatever shit vomited by sean or rush that manages to cling to your few remaining brain cells as it passes through your fuzzy little head. If you want to participate do so constructively. If you can’t, and you have convinced me with your comments that is the case, then [Edited by Mod].

Well, I was focusing on the fu manchu mustache and the fat man shirt he was wearing.I guess it’s racist to point out a slob when you see one.

Rarley?????

Is that a word or you just out of sorts?

Thanks. I guess I’ll have to bookmark those pages.

It looks like what has happened today is that Reps. Conyers and Clarke have moved from Column B to Column A.

People, It’s Over!

WASHINGTON (AP) – Americans would be fined up to $3,800 for failing to buy health insurance under a plan that circulated in Congress on Tuesday as President Barack Obama met Democratic leaders to search for ways to salvage his health care overhaul.

In advance of what Obama hopes will be a game-changing speech to lawmakers, the one idea that most appeals to the Democrats’ liberal base lost ground in Congress. Prospects for a government-run plan to compete with private insurers sank as a leading moderate said he could no longer support the idea.

http://apnews.myway.com/articl…..CL500.html

This one???

http://creationmuseum.org/

spambot

Way Over.

The fast-moving developments left liberals in a quandary. They’ve drawn a line, saying they won’t vote for legislation if it doesn’t include a public plan to compete with private insurance companies and force them to lower costs.

Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., who once supported a public option, said Tuesday that after hearing from constituents during the August recess, he’s changed his mind.

“If House leadership presents a final bill that contains a government-run public option, I will oppose it,” Ross said.

How seriously does President Obama take threats from the House Progressive Caucus that if health care legislation doesn’t include the public option, they’ll vote no? Gibbs said the president “takes them at their word.”

If the 83 or so liberal House Democrats mean it, that means passage of the bill would rely on the Blue Dogs, a few Democrats who are in neither wing of their party, and any House Republicans eager to rescue President Obama and his signature agenda item from going down in flames. Tough to get 218 votes out of those three groups.

But why should the President take their “veto threat” seriously? If their choices are a health care reform bill without the public option or no health care reform bill, will they really choose the latter option?

Don’t they know that a failure to get something passed would be a body blow to Obama’s teetering approval rating? Don’t they know that it would launch a thousand premature political obituaries? Don’t they know that it would probably start serious talk about a Democratic primary challenge in 2012?

No bill means there’s a risk that many grassroots Democrats would look at their party’s inability to pass legislation with 59 senators, 256 House members, and control of the White House and decide that political activism was a waste of time.

Get ready to accept whatever the WH cobbles together minus a ‘public option.’

That’s how I see it too.

Bookmarking those pages won’t help, the chart is a moving target. I’m kind of surprised that an updated chart was part of the Conyers post, usually Jane is very diligent to keep the chart up to date. Could be she’s got another pledge coming and she’ll update then.

meanwhile we keep working. There was a slogan I heard once, “Yes we can”.

wow thanks for the update spambot, have you seen this latest?

http://www.laughtergenealogy.c…..20741.html

Rarely do we get such an [save you the work, lurk] as you. And is that really all you have spelling? Really?

bill without the public option or no health care reform bill, will they really choose the latter option?

yes

Don’t they know that a failure to get something passed would be a body blow to Obama’s teetering approval rating?

yes

Don’t they know that it would launch a thousand premature political obituaries? Don’t they know that it would probably start serious talk about a Democratic primary challenge in 2012? probably

No bill means there’s a risk that many grassroots Democrats would look at their party’s inability to pass legislation with 59 senators, 256 House members, and control of the White House and decide that political activism was a waste of time.

thats what they hope im sure

WAY TO GO Rep! We are LOVING the SUPPORT of the Progressives! THANK YOU!

The mods here do want us to play nice, but it is not always possible. We can call Sambot names that won’t get modded. Sambot is a [Edited by Mod]. I would not be surprised if he a paid corporate lackey, who wants to steal everything from us and give it to his lord and masters at Goldman Sachs. Also Sambot is a [Edited by Mod]. Sambot when you get ill or a family member, I hope you [Edited by Mod]. I hope you go bankrupt too. Oh, maybe you have one those $40,000 per year health policies that Goldman Sachs execs have, paid for with the help of taxpayers.

Hard to believe that less than a year ago Obama was the “most liberal Senator.”
http://www.nationaljournal.com…..en/lib.htm
I can’t imagine anyone selling out more often than he has already.

Modo di Snarko ON

He’s worse now.

He’s the new leader of the Communist Party of America. Hadn’t you heard it from Sean and Rush today?

Modo di Snarko OFF

I called, and the staffer sounded extremely appreciative for the support.

Do it!

I dont think so. i think spambot is furry little lonley little fella. probably a fundy…whenever he is actually challenged with hard facts, shoved up his ass sideways with a twist, he turns into scrambot

Rep. Grijalva is my representative. I contacted his office once before to thank him when he opposed the inclusion of a reversal of the ban to carry firearms into national parks which was tucked into the credit card bill. They were gracious and appreciative. With senators like Kyl and McCain, Arizona needs Grijalva.

This would also apply under the Blue Dog-Republican approaches. Republicans want Mandatory Private Insurance without a Public Option for those who can’t afford the plans to “shelter in”. They also need heavy fines to compel the uninsured to join.

The only way out of this, if your goal is to control costs of insurance and to stop the use of Emergency rooms as the “public option” of last resort by the uninsured…is Single-Payer.

The public option IS THE COMPROMISE.

“spambot”…no I think the “Sambo-t” is intentional. It’s a not so-veiled attack at thiose he feels are Obama supporters. It devolved from “Obama-bot”. But he’s done the twist of using the racist perjorative “Sambo”.

AP wouldn’t be too happy with your plagiarizing .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

Rather what it means is that the Blue Dogs will be at risk from within their own party. THEY were the ones that failed to support the members of their party and went with the Republicans and the status guo of the Insurance Industry. If people are pissed it will be with their increasing health insurance costs, the massive increase in recissions and denials of coverage, the use of “prior unreported factor” for all those who are obese or smokers or unfit.

People will be more and more demanding of coverage plans that resemble a public plan or even Single Payer. ll the “fear words” will strike home with them…except they’ll realize that it’s the Insurance Industry that has death panels.

One year and this crisis will be twice as bad.

Right on, wmd1961. Great letter. I only hope that President Obama receives thousands of similar letters from those who worked so hard to get him elected. I have sent in one a week for the past 3 months warning that if he abandoned Medicare for All or, minimally, a strong public option, I would never work for his election again, and neither would thousands of others. We must primary all the Blue Dog Dems — and even President Obama — if they stand in the way of real health care reform.

It will never be over. When Americans realize what really happened, when they get more and more desperate, when they realize they have been duped by people like you, they will once again demand health care reform. This may happen over and over again, but eventually there will be a decent health care system in America. It is only a matter of time. You will lose in the end. You should remember that eventually – good always triumphs over evil. In case you don’t realize it, you are part of the evil.

No public option now, no mandate now.

Send a few bucks to Grijalva if you can. Any amount.

I also fully support the CPC. No surrender

Are my messages being removed?

Greetings from Bali Indonesia, yep an expat from Rep Grijalva’s district in Arizona ~ just called the Washington office with a HUGE message of support as well as donated money to Act Blue.