Up until now, it’s been champagne wishes and caviar dreams for the Blue Dogs at the White House, while the Progressives were left eating table scraps in the basement.
But members of the Progressive Caucus finally got a chance to speak with the President about health care on a conference call yesterday:
Obama asked the group to define their red line when they talk about a "robust public option."
Here, let me help you with that one. He’ trying to come up with an angle for jamming triggers on them. "I have told my staff that it’s very important that your demand for "X" in a public option be included so that if the health insurance industry doesn’t get its act together, it will be triggered…well, never actually."
Grijalva says Obama asked how far liberals were willing to compromise on the public option, another sign, Grijalva noted, that he grasps that they mean what they say.
I think the White House should be very concerned that they "mean what they say." Nancy Pelosi recently gave an interview to Ezra Klein where she said that the supplemental was the hardest battle she’d fought all year. Remember that one?
Health care is not the hardest vote I’ve had this year. Not by far. That was the [war] supplemental. That was the worst. Energy was a heavy lift. But you’re talking substance. You’re discussing issues with people. But we had never thought we’d have to do another supplemental. Not that we would have to vote for. But then the president brought home the IMF and Republicans all took a hike. Then we were stuck with it. Oh brother! That was the hardest.
The supplemental was our first whip effort. With Bob Fertik, David Swanson, PDA, Paul Martin and some glue and paper clips, we held them for 10 days and Obama himself had to come in and whip votes. The amount of enthusiasm for the public option is exponentially higher. Under the circumstances, I can’t imagine why the White House took them for granted for so long.
NBC reports that Obama reminded the group that they enjoy the security of representing safely Democratic districts.
Speaking of the supplemental, remember how Rahm beat the shit out of Progressives and forced them to vote for something they’d sworn to oppose so that the Blue Dogs could have the cover of "supporting the troops" while they voted for a $108 billion bailout of European banks? Or how about the time Rahm beat the shit out of Progressives and forced them to vote for a bailout of Big Coal that they opposed as committed environmentalists, so that the Blue Dogs who got everything they wanted in the bill wouldn’t have to take the political hit for voting in favor of it?
Dear Mr. President: I’d suggest that an approach other than concern for their Blue Dog overlords might be in order.
In another newsworthy tidbit, Grijalva says Obama signaled that discussions about the public option would continue even after his big speech before a joint session of Congress next week. That may be an indication that Obama won’t be mentioning the public option in his speech, but doesn’t want liberals to despair at that prospect.
In other words, he’ll stick to selling the "goodybag" and leave it to others to break the bad news to Grandma. No surprise there, either.
The only variable here is how soon people trip to the fact that Obama has no intention of including a public option, and how pissed progressives are when they do. I think I’m in pretty safe territory predicting that when that happens, the response is going to be…seismic.




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Damn straight, if I have anything to do with it!
More to the point: is there any way to get Obama to understand how seismic it will be? My sense is that this will resonate far beyond the progressives, many other people are starting to understand how central it is. BO really seems to be behind the curve on this…any idea why?
Presidents get their information filtered through gatekeepers, and the gatekeeper on health care is a cocky SOB who still thinks he can play the entire country like a violin.
These numbers show that a big majority of Americans want the public option:
* National Quinnipiac poll in August (question 23): 40% of Republicans support public option, 72% overall
* National CBS poll in September: 35% of Republicans support public option, 60% overall
* August Research 2000 poll of Sen. Max Baucus’s “red state” Montana constituents: 47% support and 44% oppose the public option
* August Research 2000 poll of Blue Dog Rep. Jim Cooper’s constituents: 61% support and 28% oppose the public option
So what happens when Rahmbo has to eat shit on this one? Because I sincerely hope the Progressive Caucus holds firm. The only way to get Rahm and Obama’s attention is to blow up health care reform if they don’t get the robust public option.
Obama was hired by the medical corporations, the energy companies, and the military when he convinced them he could sell “withdrawal” and “reform” while keeping “Real Change” tied up and gagged in the backroom.
He wants to be a power broker, and he’s willing to sell us all out–in fact that’s his real job–in order to play like he really is somebody important and good.
It’s “NO!” on the phony, dogshit bag HR3200 and “YES” on the Weiner amendment, people.
The public option is already a smoldering ash heap.
Whip single payer.
You mean Rahmbo?
My big worry is part of this “goody bag” is that Obama is going to promise the AFL-CIO that all the co-ops start up money will be direct to labor unions to create their own insurance companies. I think he is planning to buy them off. Frankly it is tough to think of any other group that has even the ability to start a co-op besides labor unions or trade groups.
yes, that’s the one.
the potty-mouthed ballet dancer.
That’s pretty interesting — where have you seen that Jon?
Exactly.
Remember the huge fight over whether Obama could even keep his BlackBerry? I suspect he lost that one, though they’d never say so publicly.
That would make a scary amount of sense, considering, if I recall correctly, that the unions are already shouldering most of the health care costs for the Big Three.
I hope so Jane, but when you say seismic, what do you foresee happening? People taking to the streets kinds of seismic?
Y’know, Jane, I am SO depressed over everything with Obama and health care right now that it was wonderful to ready “champagne wishes and caviar dreams,” particularly as referring to the Blue Dogs.
I weep.
Help! Rick Santorum is happily babbling on Fox News that Obama cannot succeed in anything unless he ditches these pesky liberals in his own party. Salvation evidently comes only from Republicans, blue dog Democrats and conservatives. I’m no longer even sure what conservative means. Are those the crazy people shouting about the death panels, and sending grandma to the promised land right quick? Working in mental health we never diagnosed these people as conservatives, we would refer to them with the highly technical term jpn (just plain nuts). And now they’re our only hope for deliverance.
I love the term seismic. Somehow it gives me visions of psychedelically painted Volkswagen buses, marches on D.C., demonstrations in the streets, hippie clothing – good times. Didn’t get to participate, I was barely allowed to watch, as I was married to a very “conservative” Republican husband at that time. Mayhaps this is my chance to relive history. I keep hearing these snatches of a song, think it went something like I went down to the demonstration to get my fair share of abuse (sorry, that’s all I remember.) But I digress. I think I’d better go get ready for the battle!