Comments on: Democrats “Win” In 2008 So Republican Can Write Health Care Bill

By: PaulaT

PaulaT — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:06:29 +0000

“Give the GOP some credit, at least they have the balls to tell you where they stand!”

This is why I don’t buy the “vote for the dem no matter what” thinking. I actually feel better about people who tell me in advance they are going to screw me over for corporate interests to those who lie to me in addition to screwing me over. And as long as they know we won’t be leaving them, they’ll continue to take us for granted.

I just keep thinking that a program with mandates and no public option being celebrated as health care reform is like legalizing slavery and then celebrating corresponding drops in unemployment. They have to pay a price for this if it goes down that way.

By: PaulaT

PaulaT — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:19:20 +0000

Why hasn’t anyone been comparing Romneycare to what is going on in San Francisco? There is a big difference in approval ratings and effects on costs and it’s not in the direction the WH seems to be going. So much for believing in evidence-based decision making.

By: Hoofin

Hoofin — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:33:55 +0000

If everyone just sticks with pressing for the Public Option, no one should fall prey to the Snowe job that is coming along.

The idea is to be firm without writing the administraton off.

I am convinced that part of the Republicans strategy is to jam things up so much that the core Democrats do write it off.

By: b4real

b4real — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:43:51 +0000

What changes are you referring to?

By: annieooo

annieooo — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:42:20 +0000

That nationwide call for everyone to drop their health insurance to break the insurance companies and stop feeding the beast doesn’t sound so crazy now. Why continue to pay premiums to the companies that are using your own money against you? It isn’t too late to boycott health insurance companies and suddenly cut off thier funds. If everyone who wanted TRUE health care reform is really about 70% of Americans – and they all suddenly called their insurance company today and said we’re dropping our coverage – that would be significant.

By: roxsteady

roxsteady — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:27:30 +0000

There is no way I’m accepting any triggers! These rats at the insurance companies have had more than enough time to do this, even over the last 16 years when Clinton tried to get it done. If Obama doesn’t demand a public option after traveling around the country for 2 years telling us that he would, he and the Democrats are finished! While I seriously discount anything these “journalists” have to say with their “source inside the Whitehouse” garbage that are nothing more than blind items that belong in a gossip column, I’m still willing to wait and see what the President has to say. But, if they allow the minority party to dictate their healthcare legislation they will be dead. I’m not willing to support a party that would be so spineless! The Democrats need to lose their serious case of Stockholm syndrome and lead! Snowe and the rest of her tiny party can go to hell!

By: billjanes

billjanes — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:26:23 +0000

There is an option, always off-the-table, that would achieve all the expressed goals. The rest is simply manipulation to bring profits back to big health insurers - remember Harry Reid who is for a public option as long as it’s not operated by the government?
Spreading democracy, we have government hired and government paid for sadistic mercenaries in Afghanistan. Reforming health care we will have government hired and government paid for profit-driven health insurance mercenaries.
So, that’s what a majority of Democrats ‘buy you’.
When the Dems say ‘they had no choice’, remember, the choice was rejected. There is a single payer option that will achieve savings, universal coverage and put more health care dollars directly into health care. Put it on the table.

By: archiebird

archiebird — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:30:37 +0000

JANE HAMSHER I LOVE YOUR BLOG BUT ITS TIME TO STOP THE WHINING AND BAITING AND GET THE JOB DONE. NO MORE HEADLINES LIKE THE ONE ABOVE, INSTEAD ONE LIKE THIS: “AFL-CIO, PROGRESSIVE DEMS AND LEFT BLOGOSHPERE GIVE OBAMA ULTIMATUM” I know I’m gonna catch heat for this post but dammit wheres the backbone?

By: archiebird

archiebird — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:24:19 +0000

I don’t understand. I love this blog I read it everyday. And everyday I read a headline similar to the one above. Why don’t the progressives and libs have their own strategists working on a coherent, coersive plan. Politics is like a chess board. WHO IS IT THAT is coordinating our efforts and voices, our money and the execution of our plan for some greater consolidated good? Instead all we get are whining and headlines like the one above. The progressive blogoshpere needs to have a meeting of the minds. People like D. Kos, Howard Dean, Racheal Maddow, (hell I don’t know) need to sit at a big round table and coordinate. All we have is this patchwork of voices that don’t really get the job done. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Progressives need to draw their line in the sand, move their troops to the front line, make viable threats, raise BIG TIME donations to follow through on those threats, and then FOLLOW THROUGH!! Those threats need to go directly to the Obama Administration. Collectively, 65 congressional democrats have drawn their line along with the AFL-CIO. We need to get with those people and COORDINATE! Then if the PO fails we ALL COLLECTIVELY start dissing this administration and throw our weight behind our 2012 Candidate!

By: brendanscalling

brendanscalling — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:51:50 +0000

[bangs head on table]

not change I believe in or support.