Michele Bachmann held a town hall forum at Lake Elmo that went pretty much the way you would expect it to have gone.
At the opening the attendees were told to recite the Pledge of Allegiance (with the "under God" part, natch, that was added during the McCarthy years), followed by a singer brought in to perform the national anthem. All that was missing was a jet flyover, though the FOX News cameras were indeed there.
The moderator, State Representative Bob Dettmer (R-Forest Lake), then laid out the basic ground rules of the forum, including asking people to leave their signs outside in an apparent effort to keep the more extreme wackos from being documented by the mainstream press, then launched into a four-minute-long introduction/panegyric of Michele Bachmann that was punctuated by applause from her fan base.
At last, the congressmember herself took the stage. She came up, said pretty much what you would expect her to say (boy, did she love the fact that they sang the national anthem beforehand! boy, does she hate the deficit yet love tax cuts! did you know that in England women give birth on the floor?), and the teabagger-dominated crowd applauded her every line. (Yes, Bachmann tried to scare everyone with tales of rationing overseas, even though rationing not only exists here but is in fact the basis of our system — it’s called "underwriting".) Yet when the forum was opened to questions, there were enough reality-based folk around to make a good showing (see the exchange starting around 41:00 here) and even a bit of shouting back and forth. She was even challenged, round about the 59:50 mark, on why she insisted on distorting the president’s health care plans.
But what was probably the highlight of the evening was when LeRoy Schaffer, a member of the city council of St. Francis, a white-flight exurb in Anoka County thirty miles north of Minneapolis, got up to speak. Mr. Schaffer had obviously not received the "don’t act like a crazy teabagger" memo. Not only did he weave back and forth with a swagger that reminded me forcibly of a really drunk and/or nervous Captain Jack Sparrow, he — like Sparrow — was wearing a costume, though to be sure his was relatively restrained: Top hat, black tie, and tails.
Ah, but that was the extent of his restraint. Rocking from side to side and back and forth, Schaffer started in on a loud, angry fact-challenged rant that was the finest display of authentic exurb gibberish I’ve seen outside of Gabby Johnson himself. Here’s my attempt at a transcript:
My name is Emanuel Zapata — figuratively speaking, that is. — What my name is, is LeRoy T. Schaffer. I’m a city councilman from St. Francis, so I’m sort of in a way, in a very small way, an insider. And I’ll tell ya, she’s right — we got the best health care in the world! THE VERY BEST!
Markfromireland and the JAMA beg to differ on that last point, sir.
There follows a short stretch of unintelligible ranting interspersed with pauses for effect, and then this, delivered angrily of course and received with loud cheers:
I’ll be danged if I am going to give up my Social Security because of socialism, and I’ll be danged if I am going to give up my Medicare because of socialism!
Um, sir? Didn’t you know that your party considers both Social Security and Medicare to be socialism, and has from the start?
That was about as coherent as he got. From there it degenerated into word salad about pools and the Fortune 500 and dog knows what else what on his mind.
Mr. Schaffer is known for this sort of thing. Last December he barely defeated an attempt to recall him after he made some "inappropriate sexual remarks" to a younger woman at a social event, and was so freaked out about a crew of Spanish-speaking roofers that he called the cops on them without them having actually done anything wrong. This is what the Republican Party of Minnesota looks like, folks. And sounds like. Eeeeek.





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See, and when I saw the costume, I assumed he was part of Billionaires for Wealth Protection.
I dunno, sounds a lot like the Republican Party everywhere else to me.
An understandable error. Was he trying to look like the little Monopoly guy?
You mean these Billionaires?
I guess that he was referring to Emiliano Zapata of the Mexican Revolution of 1910. At least the real Zapata had something to rebel against, instead of some manufactured straw legislation. I guess, from the factless attacks on the possible health care legislation, the low-information rejectionists have the representation they want. Generally, those in the “conservative” voter group really want a dictator that will do away with the Constitution and allow them to wipe away those benighted souls that actually believe in democracy.
LeRoy Jenkins — erm, Schaffer — is one crazy-ass dude. Just do a Google search on his name to see how crazy.
Lord only knows what he’s thinking.
“Um, sir?….” Not only that, Phoenix, but evidently he doesn’t remember that the republicans have been trying to turn “his” Social Security over to the tender mercies of the Wall St. Captains, for YEARS now.
Personally, I’m real pissed that we didn’t get in on the ground floor of THAT. Think of the money we’d have made, as, under Bush and the goopers, the amurkan economy surged, and stocks took off like a rocket. Who do we blame for missing out on that?
“Was he trying to look like the little monopoly guy?”
Major keyboard spew, DocPuma. :o)
Sheesh. He sounds like he’s had a few drinks too many or he’s got dementia. He also said he has socialized medicine (Medicare) & Soc Security but he wouldn’t give it up for the word. That’s some word salad he served up.
He has quite a history. St Francis city council censured him for inappropriate remarks to a young woman & he got freaked out seeing some Hispanic roofers, he called the cops on them. He must be a real headache for the rest of the city council to deal with.
Objection: presuming facts not in evidence, to wit, that this, er, person, actually maintains the capacity for thought.
FWDiva
Were Rs always this nuts or was I not paying attention?
Oh, and I’d thought I’d posted the link to markfromireland’s Seminal diary on the 2006 JAMA study — the one that shows that the poorest and sickest Brits get as good if not better health care than even the richest Yanks — but it looks like it grew legs on me. Here it is: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7220
Many of them were indeed always this nuts, but they usually didn’t become city councilmembers.
It’s not just him. What about U.S. senators, like Grassley?
I wanna know , how the hell do these clowns get elected?
Are the voters even more stupid than this guy ,or Michelle Bachman?
geez…..what a world !!
OT:
no countdown tonight, I guess. Speechifying at the Kennedy Library. Just introduced: John Sidney McCain.
Give me a fuckin’ break.
No news for me tonight, I guess!
FWDiva
Well that and the “Mission Accomplished” banner, plus the flight suit.
Grassley’s a spineless twit, as Digby shows.
I wonder who’ll get more TeeVee coverage Michael Jackson or Ted Kennedy ?
I wonder if I’m on “tape delay” here. Gov. Deval Patrick is speaking now; quite good.
And wow, Paul Kirk!! I remember him solely as head of the DNC. But apparently he went on to head the Kennedy Library. He’s been fantastic.
All of this is a reminder that there are some GOOD folks in the Democratic Party. They’re the “oldsters” — ones who grew up with the Kennedys, not the new Obama & Clinton-like ones. But there are good ones out there.
Gee, I wish Joe Biden would take out after the Senators and whip up a decent health care bill.
Oh, here comes McCain. I’m off to turn down the sound.
My language for this: Ds are too dumb to live; and, for Ds, compromise means doing what the Rs want.
Old, or dead, like Wellstone.
Good post, PW. And I scond OFG’s remark. After having been to a local wingnut town hall Wednesday night, it’s got to be the same republican party as I saw here; in fact, they might all be clones with just a little make-up here & there and plastic surgery to look slightly different.
I’m thinking of writing a diary about it, as soon as I put my notes into some kind of coherent story. But with all the crazy shit I heard the other night, it ain’t gonna be easy.
oh gosh. if the rethugs do manage to stop healthcare reform, they’re going to roll out a “mission accomplished” banner aren’t they? Perhaps Bachmann will even wear a flightsuit.
To be fair, this guy spent most of his ire on the money being spent by lobbyists to influence legislation. He’s right about that. If the left and the right grassroots stopped trying to tear each other apart and concentrated on this one thing, getting rid of the influence of big business on our law makers, maybe the whole system could start working again.
“I’ll be danged if I am going to give up my Social Security because of socialism, and I’ll be danged if I am going to give up my Medicare because of socialism!”
WOW! That is, perhaps, the single most idiotic thing I have heard at a Town Hall Meeting… Passing a PO should be a cake walk if this is the opposition. I do think we need to make sure there is sufficient funding for mental retardation as there seems to be a pandemic.
It’s going to be hilarious when Obama rams through a Single Payer bill.
All the numb skulls who cheer and jeer at these rallies head’s are going to explode.
wearing a padded bra.
It was really a revelation today to hear John Culver, former Senator from Iowa speak at the Kennedy memorial. Articulate, humorous, possessing a brain.
How on earth did Iowa go from Culver to Grassley?
Hell, how did the COUNTRY go there??? One thing I found so striking was the intelligence and decency of Democrats. Here were all these guys [and sorry, they were all GUYS] telling stories about their experiences with Kennedy and the issues they & Kennedy fought for. Democrats were just so likeable, the kind of people you’d want to serve in your Congress — not the washed out suck-ups currently corraled by Rahm.
Sad. Just sad.
And there was also this guy. He starts out by saying he is “not a racist, not a right wing extremist”, and then goes on to say some pretty extremely silly things. What was just as disturbing was Michelle Bachmann saying, “That’s my concern, too.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ8PAPg-t8Q
Hey guys,
This has got to be satire, right. I mean this weird looking dude ranting about not giving up his social security and medicare for socialism is a hired actor, isn’t he? Wait a minute, who took away my keys to the locked psychiatric unit. Last thing I knew I was a staff member, not a patient. Did they change the locks? Come on, let me out, this isn’t funny any more. If this goes on much longer I may have to beg the Germans to restore my citizenship, which I so proudly renounced 36 years ago to become a proud American citizen. I mean I have lived here 42 years now, I have children, and grandchildren. Actually I think the Germans would deny me asylum (is that insane asylum?) I think they’re still ticked off at me for giving up my allegiance to the country where I was born, without any reservations no less. That is part of becoming an American citizen after all.
No, I see it clearly now. This is all a bad dream, and I’m going to wake up any minute now – now – now – Oh no, maybe this is really happening.
I left my response and it disappeared. What happened?
Rep. Michelle the Wacko did say, rather ironically, “Follow the money.” Oops, Michelle, you should consider from whence you are coming.
According to opensecrets.org, the Health Sector gave both houses of Congress:
> In the 2004 cycle, $52 million to the GOP and $35 million to the Dems
> In the 2006 cycle, $45 million to the GOP and $29 million to the Dems
> In the 2008 cycle, $54 million to the GOP and $72 million to the Dems
Now, how much of that money went to Blue Dogs during those cycles, especially 2008, I don’t know? There are some indicators for this year, according to http://www.opensecrets.org/new…..to-wo.html
From http://www.opensecrets.org/new…..sect.html:
Michelle, you are not some patriotic American trying to protect us. You are just a prostitute trying to con us. But thanks for the tip on “follow the money”. That is a great tip. And, oh, I almost forgot. Thanks for selling us and our health down the river, “for a few dollars more”!
If we had a real DOJ they would have indited all these crooks for bribery by now
Did anyone bring a gun to the meeting? I’m guessing no. Does anyone bring a gun to Republican meetings? Again, I’m guessing no.
And therein lies a tale. If the gun-toters are doing it on principle, then they’d carry them all the time.
If they carry them only to Democratic meetings, then another principle, one they say they are not doing, is at work.
Intimidation.
She is here this weekend with others as well. Who knows what the hell is going to come out of her mouth.
Sheeple will do what sheeple always do. Primed by faux spews and rush limbaugh along with glen beck and the rest of the crazies the sheeple will do their damndest to stop what would help them the most. The truth will never reach them, after all, they already know the truth, and that truth is whatever they are first told to believe, endlessly reinforced via sound bites and endless repetition of the basic meme by all rethugs marching in lockstep