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	<title>Comments on: Your Junk Insurance Is About to Get Worse, Courtesy of Max Baucus &amp; Rahm Emanuel</title>
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		<title>By: sanityrules</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanityrules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dr.  Pollard,   I would bet there are a far greater number of horror stories that can be tied to the for-profit private insurance companies denying vital services.  Seems there is no big outcry from people on Medicaid or those on a civilized system ,such as exists in France , for example.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr.  Pollard,   I would bet there are a far greater number of horror stories that can be tied to the for-profit private insurance companies denying vital services.  Seems there is no big outcry from people on Medicaid or those on a civilized system ,such as exists in France , for example.</p>
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		<title>By: pointus</title>
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		<dc:creator>pointus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The stock analysts on Wall Street would beg to differ. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I pray that the House progressive caucus holds the line &amp; sinks this atrocity if it’s not REAL reform.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stock analysts on Wall Street would beg to differ. </p>
<p>I pray that the House progressive caucus holds the line &amp; sinks this atrocity if it’s not REAL reform.</p>
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		<title>By: airmaster2</title>
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		<dc:creator>airmaster2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By Zane F Pollard, MD&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have been sitting quietly on the sidelines  watching all of this&lt;br /&gt;
national debate on healthcare. It is time for me to  bring some clarity&lt;br /&gt;
to the table by explaining many of the problems from  the perspective of&lt;br /&gt;
a doctor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First off the government has  involved  very few of us physicians in&lt;br /&gt;
the  healthcare debate. While the American  Medical Association has come&lt;br /&gt;
out in favor of the plan, it is vital to remember  that the AMA only&lt;br /&gt;
represents 17% of the American physician workforce.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have taken care of Medicaid patients for 35 years  while representing&lt;br /&gt;
the only pediatric ophthalmology group left in Atlanta, Georgia  that&lt;br /&gt;
accepts Medicaid. For example, in the past 6 months  I have cared for&lt;br /&gt;
three young children on Medicaid who had corneal  ulcers. This is a&lt;br /&gt;
potentially blinding situation because if the cornea  perforates from&lt;br /&gt;
the infection, almost surely blindness will occur.  In all three cases&lt;br /&gt;
the antibiotic needed for the eradication of the  infection was not on&lt;br /&gt;
the approved Medicaid list.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Each time I was told to fax Medicaid for the  approval forms, which I&lt;br /&gt;
did. Within 48 hours the form, (which was sent in  immediately via fax),&lt;br /&gt;
came back to me , and I was told that I would have  my answer in 10 days.&lt;br /&gt;
 Of course by then each child would have been  blind in the eye.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Each time the request came back denied. All three  times I personally&lt;br /&gt;
provided the antibiotic for  each patient  which was not on the Medicaid&lt;br /&gt;
approved  list. Get the point — rationing  of care.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;EDITED FOR LENGTH HERE&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~~~&lt;em&gt;ModNote: Material from outside sources needs to comply with Fair Use guidelines - limited to 200 words. Also, a link would be great. Thanks.&lt;/em&gt;~~~&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Zane F Pollard, MD</p>
<p>I have been sitting quietly on the sidelines  watching all of this<br />
national debate on healthcare. It is time for me to  bring some clarity<br />
to the table by explaining many of the problems from  the perspective of<br />
a doctor.</p>
<p>First off the government has  involved  very few of us physicians in<br />
the  healthcare debate. While the American  Medical Association has come<br />
out in favor of the plan, it is vital to remember  that the AMA only<br />
represents 17% of the American physician workforce.</p>
<p>I have taken care of Medicaid patients for 35 years  while representing<br />
the only pediatric ophthalmology group left in Atlanta, Georgia  that<br />
accepts Medicaid. For example, in the past 6 months  I have cared for<br />
three young children on Medicaid who had corneal  ulcers. This is a<br />
potentially blinding situation because if the cornea  perforates from<br />
the infection, almost surely blindness will occur.  In all three cases<br />
the antibiotic needed for the eradication of the  infection was not on<br />
the approved Medicaid list.</p>
<p>Each time I was told to fax Medicaid for the  approval forms, which I<br />
did. Within 48 hours the form, (which was sent in  immediately via fax),<br />
came back to me , and I was told that I would have  my answer in 10 days.<br />
 Of course by then each child would have been  blind in the eye.</p>
<p>Each time the request came back denied. All three  times I personally<br />
provided the antibiotic for  each patient  which was not on the Medicaid<br />
approved  list. Get the point — rationing  of care.<br /><em>EDITED FOR LENGTH HERE</em></p>
<p>~~~<em>ModNote: Material from outside sources needs to comply with Fair Use guidelines &#8211; limited to 200 words. Also, a link would be great. Thanks.</em>~~~</p>
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		<title>By: brigid</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The content of this alarmist post is much ado about nothing. The Senate Finance bill isn’t going anywhere. The Senate bill to be voted on will be coming from Chuck Schumer’s Rules committee, and the final Conference bill will have public option and none of this content.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The content of this alarmist post is much ado about nothing. The Senate Finance bill isn’t going anywhere. The Senate bill to be voted on will be coming from Chuck Schumer’s Rules committee, and the final Conference bill will have public option and none of this content.</p>
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		<title>By: sanityrules</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanityrules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How is this for a plan?n  All of us who have a private health insurance policy drop it.  I am speaking of those of us who have not been making claims, and will practice healthy measures to keep out of hospitals.  One month of them not receiving premiums from us who simply pay for nothing will bring the vampire “health” insurance companies to their knees.  Then they will be begging for a public option just to stay in business.  That is the only message these bloodsuckers understand…when it cuts into their ill-gottten gains, maybe have to sell a mansion or two.  Now that is how to negotiate.&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this for a plan?n  All of us who have a private health insurance policy drop it.  I am speaking of those of us who have not been making claims, and will practice healthy measures to keep out of hospitals.  One month of them not receiving premiums from us who simply pay for nothing will bring the vampire “health” insurance companies to their knees.  Then they will be begging for a public option just to stay in business.  That is the only message these bloodsuckers understand…when it cuts into their ill-gottten gains, maybe have to sell a mansion or two.  Now that is how to negotiate.<strong></strong>?</p>
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		<title>By: djfourmoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>djfourmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ha, I already have that idea. But not for health care reasons…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I’m ready to become an expat if were going to continue to give my tax dollars to wealthy corporations without any accountability, continue to not care about the least of us even when a good portion of the country demands it, fired the Republicans and put Dems in power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; We elected Dems to get things done, this is only ONE in a series of heavy duty social issues we need solved and solved correctly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; As somebody once said, “America tends to do things two or three times before it does the right thing and then asked, how come it took so long?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, I already have that idea. But not for health care reasons…</p>
<p> I’m ready to become an expat if were going to continue to give my tax dollars to wealthy corporations without any accountability, continue to not care about the least of us even when a good portion of the country demands it, fired the Republicans and put Dems in power.</p>
<p> We elected Dems to get things done, this is only ONE in a series of heavy duty social issues we need solved and solved correctly.</p>
<p> As somebody once said, “America tends to do things two or three times before it does the right thing and then asked, how come it took so long?”</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At this present time it appears that the insurance companies have managed to turn health care reform to their advantage, believing that the present chaos will give them unlimited license to do whatever they want to, charge whatever they want to, deny whatever coverage they want to, increase deductibles, and generally do whatever they feel is necessary to rake up even greater profits at the expense of the suffering citizens of this country. Worse, they have somehow managed to draft the most vulnerable elements of our society, such as senior citizens afraid of losing Medicare, in their service. If we continue on our present course, only the insurance companies are going to profit, and for the first time I am afraid that this country, which I love, may cease to exist, swallowed up by corporations.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this present time it appears that the insurance companies have managed to turn health care reform to their advantage, believing that the present chaos will give them unlimited license to do whatever they want to, charge whatever they want to, deny whatever coverage they want to, increase deductibles, and generally do whatever they feel is necessary to rake up even greater profits at the expense of the suffering citizens of this country. Worse, they have somehow managed to draft the most vulnerable elements of our society, such as senior citizens afraid of losing Medicare, in their service. If we continue on our present course, only the insurance companies are going to profit, and for the first time I am afraid that this country, which I love, may cease to exist, swallowed up by corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
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		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blub, I plan to get the math to work by introducing process reforms that create declining costs. The waste in our medical system right now is incredible. We spend more than twice per person what the second most profligate nation spends. But enough work has been done to show that reforms that can costs radically can be introduced. See Steven Spear’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://chasingtherabbitbook.mhprofessional.com/apps/ab/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chasing the Rabbit&lt;/a&gt; for examples of the kinds of things that can be done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the PO, there is no PO that is a possibility in Congress right now that will work to introduce any meaningful competition. That is quite clear. HR 676 would immediately reduce costs by cutting out the administrative and profit costs of the insurance companies. That’s a great start. Additional cost reductions can be made by introducing the process reforms I referred to.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blub, I plan to get the math to work by introducing process reforms that create declining costs. The waste in our medical system right now is incredible. We spend more than twice per person what the second most profligate nation spends. But enough work has been done to show that reforms that can costs radically can be introduced. See Steven Spear’s <a href="http://chasingtherabbitbook.mhprofessional.com/apps/ab/" rel="nofollow">Chasing the Rabbit</a> for examples of the kinds of things that can be done.</p>
<p>As for the PO, there is no PO that is a possibility in Congress right now that will work to introduce any meaningful competition. That is quite clear. HR 676 would immediately reduce costs by cutting out the administrative and profit costs of the insurance companies. That’s a great start. Additional cost reductions can be made by introducing the process reforms I referred to.</p>
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		<title>By: andres11</title>
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		<dc:creator>andres11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Medicare is the answer to UNIVERSAL Health care.  This was proposed by Rep Pete Stark (D) Ca when the Clintons tried to reform Health Care.  The bureaucracy is in place; just add everyone that wants to join Medicare.  If you prefer private insurance; great! stay with your private carrier.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medicare is the answer to UNIVERSAL Health care.  This was proposed by Rep Pete Stark (D) Ca when the Clintons tried to reform Health Care.  The bureaucracy is in place; just add everyone that wants to join Medicare.  If you prefer private insurance; great! stay with your private carrier.</p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
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		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blub, if we get a breathing space for a few years, we can bend the cost curve the other way. No question, we will have to regulate. Some people will have to make less. Our attitude towards tests will have to change. But things are done differently in other nations and they have better outcomes than we have. The time to start is now and the first thing to do is Medicare for All and forget about the public option, which won’t bend the cost curve. Once everyone’s in Medicare, we’ll be able to regulate much more easily and help people in the system to cut costs. I don’t mean to minimize how difficult this is going to be, but nonetheless this is the big picture, and if we continue catering to the private companies who have been extracting excessive compensation and excessive profits from their customers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blub, if we get a breathing space for a few years, we can bend the cost curve the other way. No question, we will have to regulate. Some people will have to make less. Our attitude towards tests will have to change. But things are done differently in other nations and they have better outcomes than we have. The time to start is now and the first thing to do is Medicare for All and forget about the public option, which won’t bend the cost curve. Once everyone’s in Medicare, we’ll be able to regulate much more easily and help people in the system to cut costs. I don’t mean to minimize how difficult this is going to be, but nonetheless this is the big picture, and if we continue catering to the private companies who have been extracting excessive compensation and excessive profits from their customers.</p>
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