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	<title>Comments on: 77% Want &#8220;Choice&#8221; Between Public Plan and Private Insurance</title>
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		<title>By: AngelsAwake</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-40043</link>
		<dc:creator>AngelsAwake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but it’s true; on *average*, Gen X is most closely associated with George Bush and Reagan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That doesn’t mean there isn’t the occasional wonderful exception, however. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but it’s true; on *average*, Gen X is most closely associated with George Bush and Reagan.</p>
<p>That doesn’t mean there isn’t the occasional wonderful exception, however. :)</p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39923</link>
		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi marchan1940, LGID and J. M. Firestone are one and the same, and I’m glad you liked those posts. Also, you may be interested in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/author/14230&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;three most recent posts here&lt;/a&gt;, if you haven’t seen them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi marchan1940, LGID and J. M. Firestone are one and the same, and I’m glad you liked those posts. Also, you may be interested in the <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/author/14230" rel="nofollow">three most recent posts here</a>, if you haven’t seen them.</p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39920</link>
		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A March on Washington with a million people will do it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A March on Washington with a million people will do it.</p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39912</link>
		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blub, It doesn’t take 60 votes to get rid of the filibuster. &lt;a href=&quot;http://kmci.org/alllifeisproblemsolving/archives/drive-a-stake-through-its-heart/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See this one.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blub, It doesn’t take 60 votes to get rid of the filibuster. <a href="http://kmci.org/alllifeisproblemsolving/archives/drive-a-stake-through-its-heart/" rel="nofollow">See this one.</a></p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39910</link>
		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tom, I agree. The funny thing is that if you’re not prepared to defeat a bad bill, you can’t possibly get even a half-way good one. The problem is recognizing what is bad bill. From my point of view, every bill that has come out of committee so far is a bad bill. The only two good bills are HR 676 and S 703, and these are “off the table.” Somehow we’ve got to get them back on the table. &lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;That’s best, even if we want a good PO.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I agree. The funny thing is that if you’re not prepared to defeat a bad bill, you can’t possibly get even a half-way good one. The problem is recognizing what is bad bill. From my point of view, every bill that has come out of committee so far is a bad bill. The only two good bills are HR 676 and S 703, and these are “off the table.” Somehow we’ve got to get them back on the table. <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7088" rel="nofollow">That’s best, even if we want a good PO.</a></p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39907</link>
		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bayh can be knocked off. He’s not exactly Mr. Excitement. On the other hand he will have a lot of money behind him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bayh can be knocked off. He’s not exactly Mr. Excitement. On the other hand he will have a lot of money behind him.</p>
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		<title>By: letsgetitdone</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39903</link>
		<dc:creator>letsgetitdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t think the PO as formulated in the HELP bill can be covered under reconciliation. But &lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7379&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7418&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; minimalist strategies for getting Medicare for All passed are given.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think the PO as formulated in the HELP bill can be covered under reconciliation. But <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7379" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7418" rel="nofollow">here</a> minimalist strategies for getting Medicare for All passed are given.</p>
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		<title>By: marchan1940</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39876</link>
		<dc:creator>marchan1940</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I truly appreciate Jane’s and the FDL community’s work on behalf of a public option, however, I’ve been concerned about what exactly a public option would mean in terms of the existing legislative proposals and potential final compromises.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have been receiving the HealthCare-Now! (Progressive Democrats of America) emails for some time and really sat up to take deeper notice today with their list of articles (I’ve not looked at all of them) but I”m assuming most are from he PNHP organzation.  I want to commend the following info to folks:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There has been considerable confusion about the differences between single-payer healthcare, which Healthcare-NOW! supports, and the healthcare reform options, including President Obama’s “public option,” being introduced by the House and Senate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So we’ve collected the following resources to clarify the difference:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Report Card for Single-Payer and “Public Option” &lt;/strong&gt;(.pdf)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;More of the Same Is Not Health Care Reform, It’s a Placebo - By Leonard Rodberg, PhD&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hold out for single payer - By Nick Skala&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bait and switch: How the “public option” was sold - By Kip Sullivan&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The “Public Plan Option”: Myths and Facts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Health Policy Q &amp; A with PNHP Co-founders Drs. David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler (.pdf)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tell them why they’re wrong when they say single-payer is not politically viable! (.pdf)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Based on my scanning of the highlighted articles, I really have to questions how and why we can promote PO without a hell of a lot of caveats and policy controls above and beyond the present levels of phenomenal network advocacy and fund raising achievements - wow, congratulations FDL!!!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I totally agree with Scarecrow that if there is no PO, there should certainly be no mandates or subsidies for private insurance.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I loved JM Firestone’s letter to Congressman James Moran of 081509; and letsgetitdone article on fixing the Obama message machine with Medicare for All, of 073009.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Help, help, I really am trying to comprehend, think and act responsibly in my advocacy efforts and time is running to meet newsletter deadlines, etc. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Blessings to all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly appreciate Jane’s and the FDL community’s work on behalf of a public option, however, I’ve been concerned about what exactly a public option would mean in terms of the existing legislative proposals and potential final compromises.  </p>
<p>Have been receiving the HealthCare-Now! (Progressive Democrats of America) emails for some time and really sat up to take deeper notice today with their list of articles (I’ve not looked at all of them) but I”m assuming most are from he PNHP organzation.  I want to commend the following info to folks:</p>
<blockquote></blockquote>
<p>There has been considerable confusion about the differences between single-payer healthcare, which Healthcare-NOW! supports, and the healthcare reform options, including President Obama’s “public option,” being introduced by the House and Senate.</p>
<p>So we’ve collected the following resources to clarify the difference:</p>
<p><strong>Report Card for Single-Payer and “Public Option” </strong>(.pdf)</p>
<p>More of the Same Is Not Health Care Reform, It’s a Placebo &#8211; By Leonard Rodberg, PhD</p>
<p><strong>Hold out for single payer &#8211; By Nick Skala</strong></p>
<p>Bait and switch: How the “public option” was sold &#8211; By Kip Sullivan</p>
<p><strong>The “Public Plan Option”: Myths and Facts</strong></p>
<p>Health Policy Q &amp; A with PNHP Co-founders Drs. David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler (.pdf)</p>
<p>Tell them why they’re wrong when they say single-payer is not politically viable! (.pdf)</p>
<blockquote></blockquote>
<p>Based on my scanning of the highlighted articles, I really have to questions how and why we can promote PO without a hell of a lot of caveats and policy controls above and beyond the present levels of phenomenal network advocacy and fund raising achievements &#8211; wow, congratulations FDL!!!  </p>
<p>I totally agree with Scarecrow that if there is no PO, there should certainly be no mandates or subsidies for private insurance.  </p>
<p>I loved JM Firestone’s letter to Congressman James Moran of 081509; and letsgetitdone article on fixing the Obama message machine with Medicare for All, of 073009.  </p>
<p>Help, help, I really am trying to comprehend, think and act responsibly in my advocacy efforts and time is running to meet newsletter deadlines, etc. </p>
<p>Blessings to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie717</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39872</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie717</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey! I’m a Generation Xer, and I resent being associated with Reagan and Bush!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! I’m a Generation Xer, and I resent being associated with Reagan and Bush!</p>
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		<title>By: AngelsAwake</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/20/77-want-choice-between-public-plan-and-private-insurance/#comment-39736</link>
		<dc:creator>AngelsAwake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No one on this board.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one on this board.</p>
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