We started this whip count effort on June 23 because it became clear that in the course of making their deals with stakeholders, the Baucus Caucus (who were negotiating on behalf of the White House, with the participation of the White House) had very likely already dealt the public plan away.
On May 11, "stakeholders" including the AMA, PhRMA, the hospitals and the device manufacturers delivered proposals to the White House promising to "voluntarily" reduce cost increases over the next 10 years. In an effort to keep them "at the table," Baucus’s Chief of Staff Jon Selib and Finance Committee staffer Russell Sullivan told stakeholders at a May 20 meeting that their participation in the process of crafting a health care bill was contingent on them "holding their fire":
Sources familiar with the lobbyist meeting described it as collegial, but they said Baucus’ aides made clear that any public opposition to the proposed financing of a reform package would be at their clients’ peril. The staffers’ message to K Street was clear: Tell your clients to let the process work and don’t torpedo it with advertisements, press releases and Web sites.
The goal of keeping stakeholders at the table was threefold:
- Keep them from advertising against the White House plan
- Keep them from torpedoing vulnerable Democrats in 2010 so there isn’t a repeat of 1994
- Keep their money out of GOP coffers
You can see the fingerprints in the deals that they made: the $150 million PhRMA was spending on ads for health care reform, the $2.5 million they spent helping vulnerable freshmen, and the total fury that Boehner has unleashed on PhRMA and other stakeholders for making deals with the White House.
People make a mistake when they think the battle for health care reform is about ideology, because it’s not. It’s about who controls K Street and the cash that flows from it, which could fund a 2010 GOP resurgenece — or not.
On June 9, a lobbyist who worked for the insurance companies, hospitals, and other stakeholders said that these groups were "considering joining their Republican allies and mounting a public relations offensive to put the brakes on President Barack Obama’s overhaul plans."
In response, on June 11 Sullivan and Selib fired a warning shot:
“They said, ‘Republicans are having this meeting and you need to let all of your clients know if they have someone there, that will be viewed as a hostile act,’” said a Democratic lobbyist who attended the meeting.
“Going to the Republican meeting will say, ‘I’m interested in working with Republicans to stop health care reform,’” the lobbyist added.
Republican leaders have been meeting with health care stakeholders for months, with those sessions occurring “more frequently than once a month,” according to a senior Senate GOP aide.
On June 17, Roll Call ran an editorial crying foul, called "intimidation":
Now, as the health care debate heats up, lobbyists representing stakeholders in the debate are being frozen out of meetings and — even worse — intimidated from speaking out in their clients’ interest.
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Democratic leaders have health care on a fast track to passage in the House and the Senate by August. And, intimidation or no, objections are beginning to be heard to various proposals, notably a Medicare-like “public plan” and taxes on sugar to help pay for health reform.
And that’s right at the time that Kent Conrad unveiled his faux "public plan," the "co-op" plan (June 15). It was the time I started getting really nervous. There could only be one purpose served by such a plan: pull a bait-and-switch on a public plan. Which was why when we started the whip count effort on June 23, our goal was to define a public plan as not a co-op.
In short order, a series of deals were announced by Baucus and the White House. On Monday, July 6, the deal with the hospitals, whereby they’d commit to reduce projected cost increases by $150 billion over the next decade. On Tuesday, July 7, PhRMA’s Billy Tauzin and 5 CEO’s went to the White House to seal their deal with Rahm Emanuel, Jim Messina and Nancy-Ann DeParle, Director of the White House Office of Health Reform. On July 8, Rahm tried to float the idea of triggers — and it went over like a lead balloon. On June 10 Obama spoke to the AMA. There was a huge push to keep these groups happy during this period, and more importantly — keep them from aligning with the Republicans.
And it seems to have worked. John Boehner recently wrote a scathing letter to Billy Tauzin saying that he had "betrayed" the drugmakers by failing to align himself with the Republicans. The GOP needs the money of PhRMA and other disgruntled businesses to fund its 2010 war chest. Just as it was during the bank bailout, the goal of the White House was clear: more important than saving the financial system was keeping the financial institutions happy and stop them from financing Republicans.
Who would think that way? Whose primary objective would be to keep anyone from funding a GOP ascendancy, to sell out health care reform worth billions for a hundred fifty million in pro-reform advertising? Who would think to ask PhRMA to run ads in the districts of vulnerable freshmen, as well as Blue Dog Mike Ross, who is anything BUT vulnerable? Certainly not some policy wonk.
But ask yourself – would consider it a victory to use the "public plan" as little more than a political pawn with which to threaten stakeholders and force them to stay at the table, with no thought as to the emotional and moral consequences suffered by the people who had pinned their hope on having one?
Someone who had worked as the head of the DCCC. Who remembered the 54 seat swing to the GOP in 1994 after the failure to pass health care reform. Someone whose sole goal was a "political victory," so the White House could be 14-0 not "13-1."
Someone like Rahm Emanuel, who works through the Blue Dogs in the House to make the House bill conform to the deals he sets up in the Senate. Rahm wanted a public plan with "triggers" and had been pushing for it since January. Lo and behold, who is insisting that any public plan in the House have triggers — Mike Ross and the Blue Dogs.
The PhRMA deal on July 8 says that there won’t be any drug price controls, and the next day, Blue Dogs Heath Shuler and Debbie Halvorson author a letter demanding — no drug price controls:
Instead, they are asking Waxman, Rangel and Education and Labor Chairman George Miller (D-Calif.) to support the drug industry’s offer to spend $30 billion help cover those costs – a deal that is backed by the White House and the Senate Finance Committee.
The American Hospitals Association deal was signed on July 8. The hosptals want higher medicare reimbursement rates for rural providers. On July 15, the Blue Dogs threaten to block health care reform — if it doesn’t increase reimbursement rates to rural providers.
And suddenly, the hospitals are spending $12 million running positive ads about health care reform with PhRMA and the AMA.
Mike Allen said earlier this week that "this weekend’s comments by White House officials simply acknowledged the long-obvious reality that the idea of a government-run insurance plan was partly a bargaining chip."
If you look at the cat-and-mouse game played between the Democrats and the Republicans, support expressed by the President for a "public plan" meant "don’t you dare." A commitment that the bill will be "bipartisan" (since the GOP would never agree to one) was a signal that there would be no public plan.
The White House never cared about getting Republican votes — it cared about keeping the Republicans from peeling off the dollars of stakeholders like PhRMA. Giving in to "Republican" demands was cover for writing shitty things into the bill that would keep the stakeholders happy. They didn’t need Republican votes, they never did, and they never truly cared. As long as the money stayed out of their campaign coffers, it was all good.
If a public plan gets into a final health care bill, it’s going to be because of public pressure, because people who put Obama in office demand one. Because in the grand scheme of White House priorities, it was something that could acceptably be dealt away in pursuit of a higher political objective by the guy who was calling the plays: Rahm Emanuel.




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Jane,
You are simply becoming better and better if not approaching GREAT. This piece of writing is ’spot on’ – Emptywheel (Marcy) would be very proud of the TIME LINE:-).
I suspect Rachel Maddow could take this and create a great segment from it or hell a week long series. To come to think of it – I am going to write our ’super girl’ an email and ask her to take a look.
As usual. follow the freakin’ money.
I think that’s astute. The healthcare fight is a surrogate election to see if the repubs can come out from under the bridge.
Meanwhile a new poll shows that public support for healthcare reform collapses without a PO.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/…..ic-option/
Yet.
“The GOP needs the money of PhRMA and other disgruntled businesses to fund its 2010 war chest. Just as it was during the bank bailout, the goal of the White House was clear: more important than saving the financial system was keeping the financial institutions happy and stop them from financing Republicans.”
This institutional support of the wingers didn’t work out so well in the recent election, and we need to do a little more reminding the right that siding with the crooks isn’t the ideal tactic for getting votes. I expect Pres.O. with a lot of vocal support could remind them of that, to good effect for health care.
Thanks for that info, Mike.
I’m ok with it…how about you? I give Obama about a c-plus, overall, and I’m not so enamored with him that I want to eat a lamo pseudo-reform bill to cover his political ass. He’s had the hammer pretty good, and my 2c, hasn’t used it very well. Let’s see how he behaves with NO healthcare bill, and a somewhat tattered hiney.
Disagree with the premise but not the end result. Democracy is about noise, and Dems need to understand that they must insist on things they want. They want the public option and the President supports it as well. Your whip tool is helping Congresspeople understand too. Turning the hospitals, doctors and pharmas against insurance companies seems a reasonable strategy to me (but I’m from Chicago). The insurance exchange idea will happen and at that point any offering can go on it. Access will be limited to the uninsured and small business, but eventually widened out when larger businesses complain they want access. Undermining the opposition is okay with me, so is keeping them confused about who is getting what, who may be dealing and who isn’t and what the price of non-cooperation will be. Unfortunately it also drives the Dem left kinda crazy, too. This will all probably work out fine.
Correct as always Jane and I must say how endearing you were last night on Rachel’s program. About K Street, and this may be a bit off topic, but Tom Bug Man Delay is scheduled on Hardball tonight, presumably to be fawned by Tweety for his upcoming Dances With The Stars appearance.
I called NBC-Universal ten minutes ago, 212-664-4444, asked to speak with a Hardball producer, and gave her a 30-second comment on why Mr. Bug Man should be in jail with Jack Abramoff instead of furthering his celebrity on Hardball.
Anyone have the number for ABC’s DancingWTS?
John Yoo’s presence at UC Berkeley is a spit in the face of every Californian.
Please give your moral support to the valiant Californians in Berkeley.
ABC is owned by Disney, I complained yesterday. Why isn’t Delay in jail? He has more lives than a cockroach.
Can someone explain the concept of “triggers”?
Sorry to be ignorant, and thanks for any help.
busted .. thanks jane ..
Roy Rogers’ horse.
Trigger
All this backroom dealing and triangulation is making me dizzy. I don’t trust Rahm and his DLC credentials; and, I think he is as too clever for OUR own good.
“A trigger would pave the way for public option to come into place only after certain market conditions are met — mainly if private insurance companies are unable to achieve various metrics for coverage within a certain time frame. The proposal would placate many of the private health care actors who consider a public plan the first step towards a single-payer system. Progressives, however, view it as reform in name and not substance.”
from Huff Post
I like Rahm about as much as I like Lieberman. Picking Rahm for COS says everything about Obama.
brilliant.
absolutely brilliant.
thank you jane.
Another great exposé. You rule Jane – and to see you and one of my other all-time-favorites together last night on Rachel’s show was glorious.
I love that poll referenced above. Maybe they’ll eventually figure out that continuing to pander to the right could be political suicide for Obama and friends.
Obviously, the only chance for real change is public financing of elections.
The corruption in politics is astounding me more and more every day. Greed and capitalism has destroyed democracy.
Obama is afraid of something or else he is paid off. No rational person would act in such a duplicitous and unethical manner.
Perhaps Rahm doesn’t give a rip about the American people and what we want, but Obama too? All this wheeling and dealing points to this conclusion. Is Obama callous enough to dangle the public option in front of Americans and yank it away?
How is it that Rahm can be suprised that Americans want real change after Obama running on this theme? Does Rahm think we’re just a herd of dumb sheep?
- Tom
Great work Jane – you were also wonderful on Rachel’s show.
It is amazing that the politicians in the WH are too gutless to want to actually run the next election on accomplishments for the American people and, instead, fall back on the old tried and true “money is everything philosophy”.
cbl joining in from the Amen Corner – right on Jane !!!
you wrote about this in broader terms in an earlier Silo post and I’ve been preachin’ it since I saw it. thank you so much for fleshing it out like this
it makes sense out of everything we’ve been pounding our heads on the desk for in the last few weeks
and of course it fits with Rahm so effin’ perfectly – Master of the Electoral Universe and all –
simply illuminating
The Baucus Caucus.
Interesting that none of those folks — not PhRMA, not Insurance, not Hospitals, and certainly not Rahm — actually has a direct vote in the Senate. Of course, it doesn’t mean they don’t rent senators as needed . . .
I guess they’re figuring if they cut off corporate funding they can shrink the Republican Party down to a size that can be drowned in a bathtub.
An admirable goal, but it’s not worth sacrificing the lives of Americans to do it. I’m a firm believer that ends do not justify the means.
Bingo. Great job Jane.
it doesn’t take co-ops to pull a bait and switch on the concept of a public option.
Bait and switch: How the “public option” was sold
even if one doesn’t agree with the conclusions re single payer, the evidence of an earlier bait and switch with the concept of a public option is overwhelming.
If folks want to help Jane get — and hold — Rahm’s attention, there’s one guaranteed way to do it: toss a little donation toward the progressives in the House who stood up to defend the public option.
Right now:
2198 donors
$143,205 in donations
Not megabucks from big lobbyists. Not large gifts from entrenched corporations. Nickels and dimes from ordinary members of the voting public.
And they are adding up fast.
This is the language Rahm understands: voters and dollars.
back up the fucking bus chuck ! – did everyone read that ‘opinion piece’ from the Hill ?!??!
essentially what they are saying is Mean ol Obama and Dem Congress are being unfair to Lobbyists !!
jeebus bitches, could you be more naked in your entrenched place in Beltway culture ?!?!
Raven: Grazie.
Trigger looks happy. Was the photo of he and Roy taken in South Carolina?
Hot off the presses:
Yup.
Terrific analysis.
Lots of people (even in Chicago) were furious when RE was picked COS, but I figure it’s up to the Pres. If he wants his Chi-town bad boys with him who cares so long as things turn out okay. RE has great connections in Washington, Obama doesn’t.
I would guess less than .001% of the American people were ever familiar with Hacker’s plan. You can’t “switch” something if people were never aware of the “bait.”
The trigger idea was to give the health insurance industry one last final opportunity to clean up its act. Certain specified criteria for competitiveness in the various State markets, fraction of the population not covered by health insurance, the rate of price increases represented triggers. If those goals were not met or passed, something the insurers would find odious (like a public insurance option) would happen automagically.
There are at least two potential problems with this approach. First on the list is, why should the health insurers be given another chance to clean up their act? It seems highly unlikely that they will: when have they ever? Also in this line of thought is the recognition that the health insurers (and particularly the for-profit insurers) have placed us in this mess. Second, while the proposal says these things happen automatically, in order for them to happen Congress must appropriate monies to cover the start-up costs. A minority in the Senate could conceivably stop the whole thing by preventing appropriations.
From a realistic viewpoint, triggers amount to kicking the problem down the road three to five years.
Link, please.
You can sing that in church. The second verse is nonpartisan redistricting everywhere.
SAND
Things are not turning out okay. Rahm stinks of blue dog.
Where were you living for the last 8 years? Did that bother you any?
Ms Hamsher –
does today’s announcement of VP Biden’s sudden entrance in to the fray indicate POTUS’s dissatisfaction with the way his COS has handled said fray to date ??
just wonderin’
. . . while giving the industry three to five years to disarm the triggers.
*That* is what they’d spend the time doing, not trying to figure out how to lower costs and cover more people.
You were great on the Maddow Show, Jane. Unfortunately, the post above answers a lot of questions I have about wtf is going on. Why, I wondered, is Obama so vague about what he wants in a healthcare reform bill? Why is it so hard to get OFA going? They sold us out for the same reason the Bush admin sold everybody out. They dream of an eternal Democratic hegemony.
RE provides a lot of cover for the President I think, whenever he wants to be wishy-washy or take a more-conservativen-than-progressive position. Remember that Obama is not/was not/will never be a progressive. Being about “change” has nothing to do with being a progressive.
RE was the perfect choice because he serves as a foil for the President. If RE says something, it’s because the president wants him to, either as a trial balloon or because he really means it. But since its RE who says it (given his reputation), if the message isn’t received well, the President can always back off and re-group, knowing that, for many, it’ll be RE who gets the bulk of the blame (that’s why he’s there) and not the Chief Exec.
It’s all part of the game any president plays.
Bargain @37: Thanks for taking the time to post that. ‘preciate it.
It’s about what I was thinking, but now I know.
Public option or NO reform bill.
Well, snap, they’ve not turned out yet, so don’t jump to conclusions. Are you saying all this Dem effort is wasted? I doubt that very much. What it has to be though, is persistent enough to beat back both the monied interests and the inertia of leaving things as they are (that I suspect was the real goal of triggers, so when that went down they attacked the public option in the exchange). And Rahm stinks of wet blue dog, even worse than the average dog – and he owns those puppies.
Peterr @44: Thanks to you, too.
I think “figuring out how to lower costs” means making do with last year’s Hatteras 53. A tragedy and blight that no insurance exec or major stockholder should have to suffer.
had me a good laugh earlier in the day when it dawned on me that should the Public Option make it in to law, Jane Hamsher of course will have played a significant role in that – and if it makes it, Dems chances in 2010 will be much improved – IOW – Jane Hamsher will have helped save Rahm’s ass
if the irony wont get ya
then the paradox will
We are asked all the time to give money for this politician or that politician.
But giving them money IS the problem.
We have a money sickness in this country. We have underpaid workers, we have over paid executives, we have politicians who take bribes and call them campaign contributions.
This is so sickening.
Obama took nickles and dimes from millions and their votes too and then ignored their needs. He sold them a bill of goods and got right in line with the beltway game and the money talks crowd.
And then we have the “Family” on C street.
When will this nightmare end?
Disarming the triggers is pitifully easy. Prevent appropriation to activate Medicare-for-all (or whatever).
Actually, the insurance companies would be ecstatic about a coverage mandate. They’d be especially happy if the mandate didn’t come with regulations.
I’ve about come to the decision that we aren’t going to get health care reform out of this process. What we are likely to get is health insurance reform, and if that’s all we get I want to see strict regulation of the for-profits.
Fair enough point.
But you do have to admit that the “public plan” in the original house plan is no where near as effective as the that one, don’t you??
And if we want to fight for something that’s a “compromise” from single payer, why did you choose the house version as opposed to the original “public option?”
NOTE: Not trying to start an argument. I’m new here. But I find I like the original “public option” much better, and I find that I like your views an awful lot too. So I’m curious as to what drove you in your decision. Is it simple politics, in that you figure a “true” public option has as little chance to pass as single payer??? If so, would you feel the same if we had STARTED at single payer and then brought that true public option as the compromise??
Just curious as to some of the history as to how we got here.
And FWIW, another great post. Thanks.
Exposing this dealing to sunlight is a start to disinfecting our body politic.
Thanks Jane.
That and he’s probably the only guy who swears more. I think it is outrageous to claim Pres. Obama is not progressive, actually, and completely wrong. Running the country is not a game. There’s a lot of stuff to do, health care is not the only issue that Obama is trying to move to the left against a fair amount of resistance. He’s not a lefty-leftist, but I think he is quite progressive in his policy views.
We need congress to enact campaign finance and I would not give a penny to a politician who does not sponsor or co sponsor a total revamp of campaign financing AND that includes getting the pay for play lobbyists OUT of the HILL.
Of course there’s term limits that will dampen the cash flow and need for whoring.
huh, that is funny, hadn’t thought of it that way! politics certainly do make for strange bedfellows.
Thank you, Jane!
Especially for the timeline. Talk about connecting the dots.
So…it all HAS been 11-teen dimensional chess. I was just wrong about WHO was moving the pieces and WHY!
This is bad. This is really, really bad.
FunnyWheelieDiva
so, as an afterthought, where does that leave “the people” . we lemmings whos minds (apparently) can be controled with enough money? what did the WH think was going to happen when the “negotiation” became known?
If the goal is to increase the influence of K Street on the legislative process, term limits is the perfect mechanism.
If the goal is marginalize the K Street lobbying interests, not so much.
Thank you, Jane Hamsher, from the bottom of my heart (and the bottom of the world, here in NZ).
AdAstra (formerly known as NZ Expat)
End-of-day for me, thanks so much y’all for keeping me company.
Anybody hear about this yet?
OT
Source: The Hill
Several Republican senators are urging Attorney General Eric Holder to scrap plans to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate CIA officials who interrogated suspected terrorists.
In a letter to Holder sent Wednesday, the nine GOP Senators, including Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.), the ranking member of the Intelligence Committee, said that the appointment of a special prosecutor could “have serious consequences, not just for the honorable members of the intelligence community, but also for the security of all Americans.”
The senators argue that the interrogation of Mohammed produced information that “was absolutely vital” to capturing other terrorists and preventing other attacks on the United States, such as a West Coast plot to destroy the Library Tower in Los Angeles.
The other signatories of the letter are: Sens. Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Jeff Sessions (Ala.), the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, Saxby Chambliss (Ga.), John Cornyn (Texas), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Orrin Hatch (Utah), Chuck Grassley (Iowa) and Richard Burr (N.C.).
Read more: http://thehill.com/leading-the…..ins…
Thank you.
It finally makes sense.
Obama gave power to Rahm to deal make so that Obama could claim victory on health care reform, even if the actual “reform” was little. In turn, Rahm plays Tom Delay and sets up a New K-Street project.
The Rs are cover to pay off the interests.
The absolute opposite of “new politics.”
The Progressive Caucus and AFL-CIO will not allow the reforms to be tepid.
So Rahm can deliver PhRMA money, but unions will walk, and the grassroots and netroots “army” of Obama will disappear.
The Progressive Caucus is our only hope. People power.
i would guess that less than .001% of the American people are familiar with the co-op vs no co-op distinction either. but that’s not the point because the bait was to progressives (us). it doesn’t require reading hacker or even knowing about him. that earlier work was just the basis for claims about a public option for example: that over 100,000 people would sign up, that it would lead to single payer, that it’s medicare like (jeeze, howard dean is still flacking that one). claims that turn out to be untrue for any of the public options currently on the table in congress.
Jane Hamsher kicked ass and took down same names on Rachel last night.
I was in depos all day and night yesterday, and time is limited from now on,but wanted to say,”Helluva job, Janie!”
Oh, Raven, you’re so responsible! I much preferred the reply with the picture of the horsey!
I think a close study of his record as a candidate, as a senator and before will indicate that he is not a progressive at heart – at least how we define progressive. Of course, he may move that way if that is where the political winds blow or where we push him, but that is not, and never been, what he is about.
Don’t get me wrong. I strongly support my president, and I’m sure he will do great things. But don’t mistake his medium (his unarguable commitment to inclusive politics, democracy, transparency and American values, open and engagement process, listening to people) for his message, which is, for the most part, a centrist one. I think, though, to be fair to him, that medium is an important component of who he is, and that’s a good thing: he’s basically saying, ‘you tell me that you want the PO or whatever else you want, and if you tell me loudly and convincingly enough, I will take your side.. I will support whatever it is you, the Democratic and Independent majority tell me to support. Just tell me what you want and how you want me to make it happen.’
Jane should recveive a pulitzer for this JOURNALISM
I just spoke to Rep. James Moran’s (D-VA) office at 202-225-4376 where I spoke to a Maria. I wanted to express my support for a public option and asked whether Moran has taken a position. Her first answer was that he’s clarify his position at his Aug. 24 town hall, so I tried to clarify my question. I asked whether he would vote for a bill that didn’t contain the public option. I was a little skeptical when she said he would not. By way of clarification I’ve said that some members of the Progressive Caucus have stated opposition to any bill that does not contain a viable public option (Moran is not a member of that caucus, or the Blue Dogs) — would he take the same position — would he vote against a bill without it? She again said yes. I probably even rephrased the question and got yes again. I’m skeptical she knew whether he would answer that way himself.
I know what you are saying here – Jane has made it all so stark and irrefutable – but at some point down the road we are going to have to look at the guy who handed Rahm the car keys
You left out the part about wanting a pony.
*g*
Well well what have we here? Can we drag the MSM along and somehow beg or trick them into PRINTING THE TRUTH on the front pages and explain to the public about the lies and deception concerning health care reform? Probably not…they think we get our news on the black market or back alleys or the National Inquirer. It’s much more easy for the MSM to just make shit up, who needs facts?
have you seen scarecrow’s diary: No PO? Okay, No Mandates or Subisides for Private Insurance
in it scarecrow addresses the issue of regulation and some other non-mandate related reforms. highly recommended (but would v much like your take)
All this dem effort should not have to be spent fighting against the Obama Administration. And there have been plenty, plenty of issues that have been decided badly–O has actively tried to strengthen the unitary executive set up by Cheney.
My point is that picking Rahm as COS confirmed clearly that Obama thinks–and smells–like a blue dog himself.
Exhibit A: Sacramento and the California State Legislature.
Once there were very restrictive term limits in place, the lobbyists stepped in as The Voices Of Experience to explain to the perpetual freshmen “here’s how things work around here.” With no senior legislators around, who was to contradict them?
i agree 110%
sometimes i think that the first rule of MSM reporting is “thou shall not connect the dots”
this post is a masterpiece of connecting the dots
There has been no empiracal evidence that O has any progressive policy views. So, either he doesn’t have any or he is lacking the ability to manifest change.
Remind me again who Rahm’s boss is?
Because I keep forgetting. Then again, Brian Schweitzer gives a clue. While warming up for Obama, he endorsed the Canadian single payer system:
Obama responds:
So, isn’t the shorter version of this post “If only the czar knew”?
Hi Blub – really I hate to comment and run but I have to this time. You portray the President as some sort of empty suit that blows wherever the wind pushes him. This is incorrect. He firmly believes in democracy and majority rule and as a result he has a reputation as a serial compromiser. Which he is, I believe, but not in a negative way. In the Illinois senate there were goals he worked on for years, that took numerous bills and reforms of the reforms. Most things got to where he wanted them to go but people that lived and died on those single issues politically were just about bald ripping out their hair by the time it was all done. Keep working, progressives can easily win this battle with determination and innovative thinking. Remember when the other side is losing their shit it means you’re winning. The President is on your side, not theirs.
Yes i thought Jane was great on the Maddow show too. I was a little suprised to see Rachel flinch toward “anything is better than nothing” POV. NOW we see that we CAN have what we want and the republican ARE irrelevant. if the insurance lobbyists felt they had to deal with the Dems before the recess debacle, they have even less option now. line in the sand MUST BE DRAWN on the PO
Jane, you were fab on Rachel M’s!
Getting re-elected and preserving the majority is important, but not the ONLY consideration. Someday we will lose and the Republics will be back in power (shudder to think on it, but true). So, the best we can do now, when we have the power, is build infrastructure that will outlast them: as FDR did.
Healthcare reform through a public option will put President Obama in the history books (as it did with the Saskatchewan pol, Tommy Douglas, who did it in Canada). Ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Re-establishing the rule of law. Narrowing the income gap. Fixing the financial system. Ending the recession.
Unfortunately, we see mostly political calculation (let Rahm be the sacrificial lamb for that) overriding policy. President Obama is brilliant, accomplished, and powerful; however, seems that when he leaves town, others start working the press with strange results.
Howard Dean is a great patriot. Clearly, he has issues with Rahm but doesn’t state them (in public). The President would do well to bring Howard Dean inside from the cold.
Stunning. And shows one of the disadvantages of putting a president in a security bubble. Now do you understand the guns at the town halls, even if it wasn’t ordered, the GOP has not discouraged it.
Okay well we are never going to agree on the idea that the Dems should fight the Obama admin. However the Republicans surely will like the sound of that.
I was wondering how Obama could be so ready to abandon the public option after his compelling arguments in favor of it at his New Hampshire town hall.
Ain’t no way short of three Supreme Court impeachments plus a Constitutional amendment. Congress can’t do it alone.
Thanks, Peter.
I’ve sung the Term Limits song so many times, I think I’m as tired of it as James Taylor is of Fire and Rain (or if you prefer, Carly Simon is tired of You’re So Vain.)
Blue Dogs should never put the Dem party in a position where conceding points of principle in its platform is the norm for the sake of appeasing the right wing.
That only .001% of the American people knew about Hacker’s bait, and that the progressive switch split the universal coverage movement are two propositions that are entirely compatible.
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Also, if .001% of the American people knew what “public option” is — either the bait or the switch, does that mean that the inane talking point that 76% of the American people are in favor of “public option” can finally be given a well-deserved rest?
you must not have read what I actually wrote in #68. I’m agreeing with you 100% on your point that he is committed to democracy and majority rule. That has everything to do with being a good president and good American. It may or may not have anything to do with the policy biases that are about being a “progressive” these days (pro-labor, pro-activism-for-socioeconomic-equity, for inclusive rights and progressivism on a broad range of social issues, supportive of entitlements and state activism in promoting welfare, etc.). With respect to those biases, Obama’s historical record is decidedly mixed. I didn’t think that this is really an arguable point. ;=)
One acronym: FISA.
No doubt, Jane … scumbag emanuel’s greedy little hands have been all over this sellout to big business and big donor interests .. as usual. And the pope of hope is in on the gig as well. For God’s sakes when are the dumbasses that have an emotional attachment to their American Idol president going to see him for what he is: a sellout who will betray the american people and his campaign promises to placate big donors. The evidence is there over and over again … wall street bailouts, efca, the recent pollution bill, the lack of cramdown, his complete refusal to investigate the bush crimes, etc., etc. , etc. … if you look past your emotions and your childish celebrity worship. He is not a good man, a good man does not sell out people’s health and lives for campaign dollars.
It’s not just rahm, it’s rahmbama, a couple of chicago schiesters that play bad cop/pragmatic cop to take care of their big donors while screwing over the american public.
Z
I’m impressed she gave you an answer at all. Inslee’s office always assumes I’m a journalist or rep of some org, then refers me to the website, says to email and generally refuses to speak for him.
Another one in a safe district that needs his ass whupped, IMO.
FWDiva
Ideas for healthcare slogans:
Unselfish Seniors For Universal Health Care: We have it and we want our children and grandchildren to have it as well
Universal Healthcare: To Save Lives and Livelihoods
Z
hmmmm….. some dots might be starting to connect for me here…..
the 2013 po start date in hr 3200? after the next presidential election?
is that meant, not as a healthcare policy objective, but as a threat to k street: stay in line (ie back the dems) or else?
Read this for how the bait and switch was worked. And read this for how the same scam has been worked twice before.
Thank you Jane! Keep the fire under Rahm and Obama. Everyone remember, we voted them in, we can vote them out. We will vote them out of office for good if they don’t keep the promises made on the campaign trail. We want health care for all Americans, not just the Senate, House, federal employees and the military. We’re paying for their health care, we want equal treatment to be the law of the land…especially in health care.
Oh, abso-freakin-lutely, mon.
I had no intention of letting the President off the hook. He was entitled to pick the team he wanted…the buck must stop with him.
FWDiva
The money is always at the end of the scum trail in american politics. However, there is more at stake than that. Insurance execs arent merely greedy unethical bastards, they are devoted, fanatical “free” market reactionaries. the last thing any of them want is a government plant that is popular and helps the middle class. in other words antything that proves that government works and had a role in Americans Lives. they see this as armageddon, the one willie kristol has been warning about for years, to wit: if they ever find out that were putting them on,and keeping them down, we’ll never win again.
That was my reaction to Rachel’s question at first, too, but I think she was giving Jane an opening to knock down the “anything is better than nothing” POV. JMO, of course.
FWDiva
your probably right
Thanks. I’ll still be watchin’ her, though.
She used to say how they read all the emails to the show, so I keep calling her out when she, at best, mis-speaks.
Hey, it got Jane on last night, now, dinnit?!
FWDiva
it was watching the fisa fight that taught me to be a cynic when it comes to the dems in congress:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..-the-House
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..-the-House
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..seAppendix
Rahmen sounds like Rove. Perm Dem majority? Only thing is in theory the ideas and policy is not Dem – but of course we know that is really a lie now (or soon will).
I suspect Maddow will take this and make one or more pieces about it.
After all – what are bloggers going to do when “real” reports don’t investigate things enough to dig up “real” news (that bloggers simply digest).
Haha.
Great work.
rove once said that emanuel is the only democrat that “gets it”.
Z
Is that right? I rest my case.
If Health Care continues to be this fucked up, I wouldn’t take a bet on a Democratic majority past 2010.
This from a commenter on another site bears repeating over and over:
(lengthy)
This is it folks. Sound the alarm. The lobbyists, naysayers, and those hoping the president fails are working over time to make sure HEALTH CARE REFORM DOES NOT HAPPEN.
They’re all spending millions to stop it – but where they have money, we have YOU! It’s time to make as many calls, posts, and emails as possible, not only to our elected officials but family and friends! Let’s all work together to get health reform a reality!
Here’s a truism: The wealthiest 1 percent have never had it so good.
According to government figures, 1-percenters’ share of America’s total income is the highest it has been since 1929, and their tax rates are the lowest they’ve faced in two decades. Through bonuses, many 1-percenters will profit from the $23 trillion in bailout largesse the Treasury Department now says could be headed to financial firms.
And, most of them benefit from IRS decisions to reduce millionaire audits and collect zero taxes from the majority of major corporations.
But what really makes the ultra-wealthy so fortunate, what truly separates this moment from a run-of-the-mill Gilded Age, is the unprecedented protection the 1-percenters have bought for themselves on the most pressing issues.
To review: With 22,000 Americans dying each year because they lack health insurance, Congress is considering universal health care legislation financed by a surcharge on income above $280,000 — that is, a levy almost exclusively on 1-percenters. This surtax would graze just 5 percent of small businesses and would recoup only part of the $700 billion the 1-percenters received from the Bush tax cuts.
In fact, it is so minuscule, those making $1 million annually would pay just $9,000 more in taxes every year — or nine-tenths of 1 percent of their 12-month haul.
Nonetheless, the 1-percenters have deployed an army to destroy the initiative before it makes progress.
The foot soldiers are the Land Rover Liberals. These Democratic lawmakers secure their lefty labels by wearing pink-ribbon lapel pins and supporting good causes like abortion rights. However, being affluent and/or from affluent districts, they routinely drive their luxury cars over middle-class economic interests. Hence, this week’s letter from dot-com tycoon Rep. Jared Polis, D-Boulder, Colo., and other Land Rover Liberals calling for the death of the surtax.
Echoing that demand are the Corrupt Cowboys — those like Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., who come from the heartland’s culturally conservative and economically impoverished locales. These cavalrymen in both parties quietly build insurmountable campaign war chests as the biggest corporate fundraisers in Congress. At the same time, they publicly preen as jes’ folks, make twangy references to “voters back home,” and now promise to kill the health care surtax because they say that’s what their communities want. Cash payoffs made, re-elections purchased, the absurd story somehow goes that because blue-collar constituents in Flyover America like guns and love Jesus, they must also reflexively adore politicians who defend 1-percenters’ bounty.
That fantastical fairly tale, of course, couldn’t exist without the Millionaire Media — the elite journalists and opinionmongers who represent corporate media conglomerates and/or are themselves extremely wealthy. Ignoring all the data about inequality, they legitimize the assertions of the 1-percenters’ first two battalions, while actually claiming that America’s fat cats are unfairly persecuted.
For example, Washington Post editors deride surtax proponents for allegedly believing “the rich alone can fund government.” Likewise, Wall Street Journal correspondent Jonathan Weisman wonders why the surtax “soak(s) the rich” by unduly “lumping all of the problems of the finances of the United States on 1 percent of (its) households?”
If any volley can thwart this latest attack of the 1-percenters, it is that simple idea.
‘Nuff said’.
Where is this from?
RAHM EMANUAL
Emanuel is known for his “take-no-prisoners attitude” that has earned him the nickname “Rahm-bo.”[13] Emanuel is said to have “mailed a rotten fish to a former coworker after the two parted ways.”[10] On the night after the 1996 election, “Emanuel was so angry at the president’s enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting ‘Dead! … Dead! … Dead!’ and plunging the knife into the table after every name.”[5][6] Before Tony Blair gave a pro-Clinton speech during the impeachment crisis, Emanuel reportedly screamed to Blair’s face “Don’t fuck this up!” while Clinton was present; Blair and Clinton both burst into laughter.[18] However, by 2007 his close friends were saying that he has “mellowed out.”[10] Stories of his personal style have entered the popular culture, inspiring articles and websites that chronicle these and other quotes and incidents.[19][20][21][22] Though executive producer Lawrence O’Donnell has denied it,[23] the character Josh Lyman in The West Wing is said to be based on Rahm Emanuel.[5][24]
He once said, “Rule one: Never allow a crisis to go to waste. They are opportunities to do big things.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel
Manic phase of bipolar disorder
Signs and symptoms of the manic phase of bipolar disorder may include:
* Euphoria
* Extreme optimism
* Inflated self-esteem
* Poor judgment
* Rapid speech
* Racing thoughts
* Aggressive behavior
* Agitation
* Increased physical activity
* Risky behavior
* Spending sprees
* Increased drive to perform or achieve goals
* Increased sexual drive
* Decreased need for sleep
* Tendency to be easily distracted
* Inability to concentrate
* Drug abuse
http://www.mayoclinic.com/heal…..N=symptoms
Although it’s difficult to know people’s motivations the important thing is that it is largely beside the point. The definitive way to assess people is through their actions. In this case the willigness ultimately by Obama to barter away the crucial PO is enough to realize what can be expected from him.
He is unreliable and perfectly willing to sacrice the public’s health and wealth in furthering the wealth of the finacial and now the medical sector. As regards this point we do not need to speculate the evidence is clear enough.
Delivering health care equitably and cheaply is not difficult to do nor to explain. The problem of how to most efficiently manage any sort of risk for a population is a straihgtforward matter of simple math and has been demonstrated. It simply requires maximal inclusion to spread the risk and maximally reduce the cost.
I think that Obama is basically a known entity at this point and rather than expending energy on him, all efforts should be directed to our representatives and to require them to commit publicly to vote only for legislation with a PO.
Thankfully the efforts of Jane and Rachel can highlight the lack of any public interest by the Obama team, but always together with highliting the merits of the public option.
Word.
Kucinich on MSNBC
Flash! Kucinich on MSNBC – health care status: Dennis will join Ed Schultz on “The Ed Show,” MSNBC, today August 19th at 6:30 pm EDT, to discuss the status of the health care reform proposals.
BE THERE!
Over at crooks and liars, political junkie posted this link.
This is the first I’ve heard that Obama was a member of the DLC. I had checked when he was candidate Obama, and he was not listed as a member. When Black Commentator found the connection and asked him about it, Obama refused to denounce the DLC.
That, to me, shows he is NOT a progressive and never has been, contrary to campaign promises.
Here’s what I truly find most distressing about Jane’s superb take on the movement under the table. If a Health Care bill does not pass at all then Rahm will have made good on his end that no Public Option was created. That is his only commitment to this whole deal. He has a lot of momentum going for that outcome. Even if 60 progressives vote to kill a bad bill Rahm is a God to the K-Street money kings. His only demise would be that a Public Option did make it despite all his efforts to derail it by pushing triggers or co-ops. So, as Jane says, it’s up to “Us” to provide Rahm an outcome that completely backfires on him and is at the same time a “win” for all Americans whether they understand it or not.
Just imagine how issues could be debated on their merits if our elections were publicly financed. Instead, everything is a big fucking chess match trying to get as much money as possible for the next goddamn election.
I wish I shared your optimism.
Speaking of Lawrence O’Donnell, he went on Olbermann’s show last night & predicted the PO would be stripped in conference committee. He says that the left always loses in conference.
On the other hand, this is the same guy who said recently that Baucus is completely untainted by all the campaign contributions he’s gotten from PhARMA and the insurance racketeers!
I don’t trust Rahm Emanual for sh*t. I bet he’s the top official that is leaking all this crap to the media. I also bet he’s been conspiring with the Blue Dogs all along to undermine the P.O. He’s a traitor in the ranks and needs to go!!!
I don’t care about his VIEWS, I care about Obama’s ACTIONS.
And his actions thus far on civil liberties, wiretapping, civil rights, releasing torture photos, state secrets, defending John Yoo, and an individual mandate to purchase health care without a public option are in NO WAY progressive.
Suddenly I realize – the ignorance was mine and mine alone. I had been under the impression that the Chief of Staff Rahm and the President KNEW how the Washington Machine operated and they were just threading water. Now I realize that although Barack is a brillant University Professor and to some degree a fair author – He is TOO nice to allow himself to roll in the mud with everyone else in Washington and Rahm would not REQUIRE him to play by the rules of the “Mud Game” to make progress. That’s RIGHT I said require him – instead we have the charade of commitment to Health Care Reform. Unfortunately what we see unfolding is the fact that once again the Democrats are collapsing and allowing the BIG MONEY FAT CATS to pour their contributions into the Dems Campaign War Chests – and the game goes on.
Who is kidding who? These same Insurance Criminals are the VERY same people who would not pay-off on the Insurance claims of the victims of Katrina – You can’t believe they are different Fat Cats.
As much as I cried with glee when Barack was elected – I am crying now at the demonstration he is giving of someone who REALLY is NOT up to the REAL job of being Our Leader.
I like the idea of a timeline, but I think it needs to go farther back.
I would like to know what the “secret deal” was that took single payer off the table, who the parties to the deal were, and how big the payoff was.
I’d also like to know when the deal was done (probably some time near August 2008 and certainly before March 2009).
Of course, we all know why single payer had to be taken off the table, and why that secret deal was done: Because single payer works.
NOTE Good story here for some enterprising journalist!
Yeah, who’s his boss, anyhow?
Long-time lurker decloaking to say thank you to Jane, for nailing the politics of this and also for taking action far enough in advance and sticking with it long enough to actually have a positive influence.
Bravo!!!!
Thanks, been working on this for a few days. Need a shower now.
If it’s true that this show of resolve was primarily or even substantially engineered by you, Jane, and FDL, that is truly impressive feat. My hat would be off. If, on the other hand, you are merely reflecting a legislative reality that developed because of the members’ ideological or political commitments, well it’s still a good thing that you have gotten them on the record and are publicizing their pledges.
Doesn’t the buck stop with Rahm’s boss?
Who’s in charge anyway?
And what is Rahm promising the president?
Wikipedia on The Prince:
Jay Inslee Town hall
1:30 PM 8/30/09
Edmonds-Woodway High School Gym
7600 212th Street, SW
Edmonds, WA 98026
I’m next door to his district [Seattle] but signed up for 4 people. Be sure to get there early, get seats up front. I like Jay a lot; attended his public meetings introducing Joe Wilson. I saw his interview clip asking progressives to go to town halls. As far as I know he has declared for the public option. Rep. Jim McDermott has – and could really use funding since he is still being sued by evil Boehner for the Gingrich ethics mess. I know. Years ago, but they still have him in court. http://www.mcdermottforcongres…..etthefacts
What a terrific post! I think there’s a need for more timelines being posted online where others can have access to them. Juxtaposing the various events chronologically is so revealing.
A couple of UT commenters, Jebbie & Harpie, have put one together for Torture and they keep it updated: Torturous Timeline.
There needs to be one for Health Care, too, and it should be one that looks way back to the very early deals re: health care.
Another useful timeline might be one that demonstrates how grassroots and netroots can effectively influence legislation, and the narrative inside the beltway. This recent whip count is a prime example.
Just some thoughts that were sparked by this post. I’m sure there are regular commenters here who have a lot of that kind of info at their fingertips.
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And if no bill is passed, then it will be Obama who pays in the end.
One has to wonder if he fully realizes that yet, or if he’s still stuck in the weeds.
jane, thank you. great stuff. i’m coming here more and more, and you are one of those voices that this country needs.
It’s hard to believe that Obama is as Machiavellian as the worst of them.
I just wrote an Op-Ed that I submitted around and now Jane and Glenn’s superb insights and investigative work has largely made my points null and void. :)
The audacity of the hoax!
Jane,
I wonder to what extent Obama and Emmanuel have boxed themselves (and us) into a situation where they have already made concessions to the healthcare industry that can’t be reconciled with the bill that is likely to come out of Congress?
Thank you for this summary. I came here from Glen Greenwald’s amazing blog and have bookmarked this site.
Does Rahm think we’re just a herd of dumb sheep?
Yes.
Dean was the architect of the 2006 landslide as DNC chairman. Dean came up with the 50 state strategy (which Rahm opposed vociferously). When the Dems won, Rahm was the first to go on TV and take credit, and being a media darling, the MSM indulged Rahm. Despite Rahm’s attempts to steal the credit, everyone involved in Democratic politics knows that it was Dean who masterminded the takeover.
Yes, I think we have to thank President Obama for running for office and proving that a majority of Americans have rejected racism. Thank you President Obama.
Now, unless President Obama is prepared to drastically change his act to carry out his campaign promises and those of the 2008 Democratic Party Platform, we have to turn our energies to electing someone who we all know will carry out his campaign promises and those of the Democratic Party platform. Welcome, Governor Howard Dean to the 2012 Democratic Party presidential race.
Whether he want to so not, we have to draft Dean for 2012 to restore the Rule of Law, Democracy and the lives of millions of Americans who are deprived of basic health care.
Jane,
I’m new to your blog. Dropped in today by way of Greenwald.
Fantastic post. You pieced the puzzle together in a way that answered several questions about Obama’s true intentions that had been nagging me. Very fine work. Thanks.
That’s an interesting thought.
I wish I was skeptical about Jane’s thesis. But it’s really hard to be. My 40 years of political activism resulted in maybe three significant victories. You can’t argue with the numbers: it’s difficult to win when the deck’s stacked and those around the table that you thought were your partners are actually cheats out to get you.
Earlier this year, I witnessed the Secretary of State committing a rather base act, playing along with Bush holdovers to complete the sell off of a major public asset to corporate interests. This is where Rahm got his start, right, as consigliere for the Clintons? It’s all too cliché to gain power merely to rape the commonweal. People do that? I can’t empathize. It seems to me that honest stewardship and progressive policymaking are their own best rewards. They’re not?
What does this foretell about policy battles to come? Climate change? Privacy protections (I know, that’s almost a goner)? Alternative energy? Educational reform? Transparency in government? Gay marriage? Fair and open elections? An end to the wars? Will the quest for each progressive Holy Grail turn into an auction resulting in more private riches? And a party put in power by its left ends up being a party of the right? What a Hardingesque nightmare. Tell me it ain’t so, President Obama. I know you’re reading this.
Why in the HELL aren’t We, the People, defined as at least part of “stakeholders?” If we’re not stakeholders, then let the stakeholders hold the stake while we drive it through their hearts.