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	<title>Comments on: Dems to &#8220;Go It Alone&#8221; On Health Care</title>
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		<title>By: cihuamexica</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-39092</link>
		<dc:creator>cihuamexica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi letsgetitdone, greetings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry I didn’t respond to your comment, the short answer it that my Diary is no longer there, I think it was deleted but I just do not know if it was, I can’t access it, I did send and email to &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:firedoglake@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;firedoglake@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; asking them if it was and if I could know what I did wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
This is the link&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7347&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7347&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I posted the Diary at the Daily Kos where it’d take a whole lot for a Diary to be deleted, it is under my userid ‘tranny’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Until I get the response from the firedog lake administrators, I’ll not know what happened, no response or confirmation that it was deleted, will make me no post anything here, I’d not want to be associated in any form with an outfit which practices censorship without a powerful reason.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think there was anything outrageous on my Diary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank your for taking the time to comment on my first Diary at FireDog Lake.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cihuamexica, AKA Dkos Tranny, AKA Aurora&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aurora grajeda&lt;br /&gt;
A Proud Kossak&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS&lt;br /&gt;
You can contact me from Daily Kos&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi letsgetitdone, greetings.</p>
<p>Sorry I didn’t respond to your comment, the short answer it that my Diary is no longer there, I think it was deleted but I just do not know if it was, I can’t access it, I did send and email to <a href="mailto:firedoglake@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">firedoglake@gmail.com</a> asking them if it was and if I could know what I did wrong.<br />
This is the link<br /><a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7347" rel="nofollow">http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7347</a></p>
<p>I posted the Diary at the Daily Kos where it’d take a whole lot for a Diary to be deleted, it is under my userid ‘tranny’</p>
<p>Until I get the response from the firedog lake administrators, I’ll not know what happened, no response or confirmation that it was deleted, will make me no post anything here, I’d not want to be associated in any form with an outfit which practices censorship without a powerful reason.</p>
<p>I don’t think there was anything outrageous on my Diary.</p>
<p>Thank your for taking the time to comment on my first Diary at FireDog Lake.</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Cihuamexica, AKA Dkos Tranny, AKA Aurora</p>
<p>Aurora grajeda<br />
A Proud Kossak</p>
<p>PS<br />
You can contact me from Daily Kos</p>
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		<title>By: mafr</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38894</link>
		<dc:creator>mafr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;keeping your house from burning down,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t there a trend in California towards private home fire protection, that is to say, you pay XYZ fire department corp. to douse your home with fire retardant, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>keeping your house from burning down,</p>
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<p>Isn’t there a trend in California towards private home fire protection, that is to say, you pay XYZ fire department corp. to douse your home with fire retardant, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: mafr</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38886</link>
		<dc:creator>mafr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s not the end of the fight. Not by a long shot. But hey, good job Rahm, enjoy it while your deals all turn to shit and Billy Tauzin feeds you to the dogs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ouch!!! Very funny!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s not the end of the fight. Not by a long shot. But hey, good job Rahm, enjoy it while your deals all turn to shit and Billy Tauzin feeds you to the dogs.</p>
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<p>Ouch!!! Very funny!</p>
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		<title>By: gamd521</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38791</link>
		<dc:creator>gamd521</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a few suggestions in an effort to further the cause of changing the way health care is delivered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-As in everything in life one should pay little credence to what is promised by leaders and judge only what they do. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By this standard Obama has no qualms with exacting enormous amounts of money from the public into private hands. Examples, the financial bailout and the deal with pharmaceutical firms to continue to pay exhorbitant fees for drugs within medicare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is therefore a true believer in sacrificing the public welfare for the benefit of private firms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-The issue with delivering health care rests on what aims are hoped to be achieved. If the goal is to provide complete coverage at the least cost, this is a problem whose solution is provided by math and has been calculated. It is a problem of how to most effeciently manage risk.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The solution if one accepts these aims entails, not surprisingly, that everyone who is capable and at risk pays into the largest pool possible, so as to maximally spread risk and maximally reduce cost. This result is rigourous and obvious and has nothing to do do with any given ideology. It rests only in satisfying the given goals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This notion is simple to understand and should be promoted as the ideal solution. In lieu of this solution then the next best option would be the next smallest pool which is provided by the public financed option currently being proposed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My point is that Obama is not to be trusted as an advocate for this plan given what he has done to date. All efforts should be devoted to exerting every sort of economic and electoral pressure on our representatives. We should demand that they publicly commit to voting only for legislation that includes a public option based on its demonstrable merits.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few suggestions in an effort to further the cause of changing the way health care is delivered.</p>
<p>-As in everything in life one should pay little credence to what is promised by leaders and judge only what they do. </p>
<p>By this standard Obama has no qualms with exacting enormous amounts of money from the public into private hands. Examples, the financial bailout and the deal with pharmaceutical firms to continue to pay exhorbitant fees for drugs within medicare.</p>
<p>He is therefore a true believer in sacrificing the public welfare for the benefit of private firms.</p>
<p>-The issue with delivering health care rests on what aims are hoped to be achieved. If the goal is to provide complete coverage at the least cost, this is a problem whose solution is provided by math and has been calculated. It is a problem of how to most effeciently manage risk.</p>
<p>The solution if one accepts these aims entails, not surprisingly, that everyone who is capable and at risk pays into the largest pool possible, so as to maximally spread risk and maximally reduce cost. This result is rigourous and obvious and has nothing to do do with any given ideology. It rests only in satisfying the given goals.</p>
<p>This notion is simple to understand and should be promoted as the ideal solution. In lieu of this solution then the next best option would be the next smallest pool which is provided by the public financed option currently being proposed.</p>
<p>My point is that Obama is not to be trusted as an advocate for this plan given what he has done to date. All efforts should be devoted to exerting every sort of economic and electoral pressure on our representatives. We should demand that they publicly commit to voting only for legislation that includes a public option based on its demonstrable merits.</p>
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		<title>By: zeabow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38753</link>
		<dc:creator>zeabow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have it and we want our children and grandchildren to have it as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Z&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have it and we want our children and grandchildren to have it as well.</p>
<p>Z</p>
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		<title>By: zeabow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38752</link>
		<dc:creator>zeabow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, to fine tune it: Unselfish Seniors for Universal Health Care &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Z&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, to fine tune it: Unselfish Seniors for Universal Health Care </p>
<p>Z</p>
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		<title>By: zeabow</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38751</link>
		<dc:creator>zeabow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s another slogan that older folks may find fits them:  Unselfish Seniors for Health Care&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Z&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s another slogan that older folks may find fits them:  Unselfish Seniors for Health Care</p>
<p>Z</p>
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		<title>By: whyknot</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38750</link>
		<dc:creator>whyknot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed.  Also don’t forget the excellent organizing efforts re glenn (cry me a river) beck by color of change, and the much-derided OFA (working hard to combat tea-baggers).  We have the brains and the numbers.  FDL helps us use those advantages to scare the repubs.  Jane is awesome on the teevee.  Perhaps todays best story?  House members are slapping insurance companies with demands for corporate pay and incentive records.  HA!  Welcome to powerlessness, insurance companies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  Also don’t forget the excellent organizing efforts re glenn (cry me a river) beck by color of change, and the much-derided OFA (working hard to combat tea-baggers).  We have the brains and the numbers.  FDL helps us use those advantages to scare the repubs.  Jane is awesome on the teevee.  Perhaps todays best story?  House members are slapping insurance companies with demands for corporate pay and incentive records.  HA!  Welcome to powerlessness, insurance companies.</p>
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		<title>By: whataretheysmoking</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38749</link>
		<dc:creator>whataretheysmoking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;jane and all the pups here, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you need to be thanked again and again and again for your stupendous efforts, no matter where this fight takes us. when i want to assure myself that there’s some decency and intellect left in political discourse, i visit this site.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jane and all the pups here, </p>
<p>you need to be thanked again and again and again for your stupendous efforts, no matter where this fight takes us. when i want to assure myself that there’s some decency and intellect left in political discourse, i visit this site.</p>
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		<title>By: siri</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/18/dems-to-go-it-alone-on-health-care/#comment-38748</link>
		<dc:creator>siri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hahahahahahaha&lt;br /&gt;
NO ONE does snark with the class and hammer of our own Ms. Hamsher!&lt;br /&gt;
love it.&lt;br /&gt;
just lololol!&lt;br /&gt;
and really good “shew” on Maddow too, Jane.&lt;br /&gt;
i’m so proud to know ya!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahahahaha<br />
NO ONE does snark with the class and hammer of our own Ms. Hamsher!<br />
love it.<br />
just lololol!<br />
and really good “shew” on Maddow too, Jane.<br />
i’m so proud to know ya!</p>
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