Great News – Jane have fun at NN you have certainly earned it. Just FYI – The New York Times is coming out with a story that is going to hurt and hurt bad for a week or so for US and the White House. Tauzin has now brought the Hospital CEO’s to the party saying that they too had a tandem deal with the White House and Baucus just like the PhRMA deal. In addition, the private meeting with Grassely where he spoke about several promises the President made and the White House denied – well that meeting was a Private Lunch. The story is on the front page of HP and links to the NYT.

Several hospital lobbyists involved in the White House deals said it was understood as a condition of their support that the final legislation would not include a government-run health plan paying Medicare rates — generally 80 percent of private sector rates — or controlled by the secretary of health and human services.

The Progressive Bloc is going to be the only thing that has a potential to save the Public Option.

A nurse does not have healthcare just how barbaric are we?

How was your flight we were worried?

6) She did admit that she has not read the whole bill, that she has staff to do that ( HR 3200 was up to 1400 pages so that is an absurd question, I think).

http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/

Right or Left that is her paid for job she should read the bill. Nobody who does not read a bill should be allowed to vote on a bill I think lie detectors are needed.
Now then are the Blue dogs willing to submit to lie detectors to say that they have read the bill on air live that question would be hilarious and get all kinds of ratings.
FBI lie detector tests for all the lying dogs!

The NYT story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32…..ork_times/

Brendan wrote me last night said that Sestak said at the public forum yesterday in Philly that he will NOT concede the public option. Now what exactly he means by public option we need to suss out from him tomorrow.

The health care field is one of the worst as far as providing health coverage for their employees .
My wife worked in the health care field for many years without receiving benefits ,she was never quite able to get the required 32 hours to be eligible for coverage.

Where do you think the cuts are taken that the insurance companies demand?

And do you shop at Whole Foods? Your $ are supporting the fight against health care; http://jobsanger.blogspot.com/…..ealth.html

Ok that is the kind of thing we all need to know and I hope the front pager do several posts on. Zen Nurse if she is around might have more to add?

The nurse without insurance probably works per diem for the flex schedule rather than a full time regular gig.

Maybe Congressman John Conyers has read the bill? He has a short wort for it, prepare the fainting couch:

Obama once gave lip service to single payer health care, but as president has staked his reputation on a mishmash of corporate schemes and deals-with-the-devil masquerading as health care reform – a thoroughly confused and conflicted legislative concoction that Conyers describes, simply, as “crap.”

Conyers gave that assessment at Washington’s Busboys and Poets restaurant, bookstore and bar, where the Progressive Democrats of America were celebrating their fifth anniversary.

from http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/conyers-“there-no-one-more-disappointed-i-am-barack-obama”

he adds:

Conyers suggests that, at the end of the legislative process, progressive congresspersons may wind up voting against Obama on health care because the bill will be simply too bad for advocates of real reform to support.

but but but, clearly the only way to single payer is to pass crap, faux ‘reforms’ that cement in place many of the worst aspects of the current system, and then have a glorious signing ceremony in the WH rose garden! maybe they would even invite some leaders of the progressive blogosphere, sigh.

To be honest I had no idea where the cuts were taken as far as whole foods been 3 years since I went there.

maybe they would even invite some leaders of the progressive blogosphere, sigh.

Bwahaha snark tag needed Jane and Christy at such a meet sure the SS will be 12 kinds of worried.

Bmaz has a brand new post ready for our perusal: “Obama’s First Rendition Looks Very Questionable”

I was there last night.

Representative Fudge replied to Allie’s question by saying that she would vote for a bill that contained a strong public option, or something equivalent to that, whatever it might be called. She said in response to someone else’s question that the President has said that a single payer solution is off the table, and so she regards that concept as off the table.

Someone asked whether Representative Fudge would pledge not to vote for a bill that allowed expenditure of public money for abortion services. The Congresswoman replied that poor people should receive the same health care as those who can afford to pay for it.

Someone else asked how many of the frequently quoted figure of 47 million people without health insurance in this country are “illegals” and how many are “Americans”. Representative Fudge said that she didn’t know. She said that people who had been in the United states for many years, who worked here and paid taxes here, and who had families here, were worthy of regard as Americans.

Unfortunately, Cleveland has its share of people who have gone crackers over the election of a black President. Fortunately, I neither saw nor heard anything overtly racist inside the meeting room last night. Of course, 50% of the audience consisted of black people. This might have terrified some of the attendees into civility, or caused others to find that they had other priorities which prevented them from attending.

The guy who was ejected by uniformed, on duty Cleveland P.D. SWAT team members had interrupted Representative Fudge to yell incoherently about euthanasia of elderly patients. He immediately was asked by the police to leave. He could have walked out, but he resisted the officers. I don’t know whether he was arrested. Someone else who had been seated close to the ejectee was asked to leave about one minute later, and he walked out agreeably. About 15 minutes later, two guys dressed in Joe the Plumber costumes were warned once by a supervising police officer to behave respectably after they bellowed something like, “It’s been 60 years. What’s the rush?” in response to Congresswoman Fudge’s stated insistence that the time has come to solve our country’s health insurance problem. There was some booing whenever the Congresswoman said something that caused outbreaks of applause, but there was no further self-embarrassment by anyone.