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	<title>Comments on: Yvette Clarke ALMOST Takes the Pledge</title>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/11/yvette-clarke-almost-takes-the-pledge/#comment-37396</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks! (((leen)))&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks! (((leen)))</p>
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		<title>By: masslib</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/11/yvette-clarke-almost-takes-the-pledge/#comment-37385</link>
		<dc:creator>masslib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It would be good to know exactly what “watered down” means…agreed.  I’d also like a definition of “strong” and “robust”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good to know exactly what “watered down” means…agreed.  I’d also like a definition of “strong” and “robust”.</p>
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		<title>By: maximus7</title>
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		<dc:creator>maximus7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A referendum on single payer health care insurance. If you support single payer sign these&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/HR676&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/HR676&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/single_payer_ross&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/single_payer_ross&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A referendum on single payer health care insurance. If you support single payer sign these</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/HR676" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/HR676</a></p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/single_payer_ross" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/single_payer_ross</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hope you are doing well Selise miss your post&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you are doing well Selise miss your post</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/11/yvette-clarke-almost-takes-the-pledge/#comment-37351</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sorry only time for a v quick drive by…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m not going to look a gift horse in the mouth (or whatever the saying is). instead, i will say a very very sincere “thank you” to jane and also “more please” while i’m at it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p.s. i missed to replying to you, alank, in ralphbon’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7069&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diary&lt;/a&gt; (the comments are now closed). but did leave a quick note, hoping you would see it, &lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7088#comment-63283&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry only time for a v quick drive by…</p>
<p>i’m not going to look a gift horse in the mouth (or whatever the saying is). instead, i will say a very very sincere “thank you” to jane and also “more please” while i’m at it.</p>
<p>p.s. i missed to replying to you, alank, in ralphbon’s <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7069" rel="nofollow">diary</a> (the comments are now closed). but did leave a quick note, hoping you would see it, <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7088#comment-63283" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: sporkovat</title>
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		<dc:creator>sporkovat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s news to me that FDL supports single-payer outright.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;here are some quotes from Jane Hamsher engaging with a Single Payer advocate (me):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;post 13 What’s your plan? I want to know. You never say.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kill this now so things will get so people will die and there will be rioting in the streets?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;post 20 No, it’s a very simple question. You’re not expanding the range of what is considered possible, &lt;em&gt;your engaging in a fantasy.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Single payer is not going to happen now just because you yell in our comments section. The votes do not exist.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/jane-harman-will-vote-against-a-bill-without-a-strong-public-option/#Respond&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://campaignsilo.firedoglak.....n/#Respond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yeah, with support like that, I can’t blame you for being surprised. Well, pragmatism is as pragmatism does, I suppose.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s news to me that FDL supports single-payer outright.</p>
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<p>here are some quotes from Jane Hamsher engaging with a Single Payer advocate (me):</p>
<blockquote><p>post 13 What’s your plan? I want to know. You never say.</p>
<p>Kill this now so things will get so people will die and there will be rioting in the streets?</p>
<p>post 20 No, it’s a very simple question. You’re not expanding the range of what is considered possible, <em>your engaging in a fantasy.</em></p>
<p>Single payer is not going to happen now just because you yell in our comments section. The votes do not exist.</p>
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<p><a href="http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/22/jane-harman-will-vote-against-a-bill-without-a-strong-public-option/#Respond" rel="nofollow">http://campaignsilo.firedoglak&#8230;..n/#Respond</a></p>
<p>yeah, with support like that, I can’t blame you for being surprised. Well, pragmatism is as pragmatism does, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/11/yvette-clarke-almost-takes-the-pledge/#comment-37349</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody else get the feeling that some of the folks in those town hall meetings go practice with the white militias&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/splc-report-second-wave-militia-acti&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://crooksandliars.com/davi.....litia-acti&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody else get the feeling that some of the folks in those town hall meetings go practice with the white militias</p>
<p><a href="http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/splc-report-second-wave-militia-acti" rel="nofollow">http://crooksandliars.com/davi&#8230;..litia-acti</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Jane&lt;br /&gt;
Will call.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rallied some of the folks in our area who know more about single payer than any body I know to have a meeting with Senator Voinovich (they think he is a lost cause, but I did my best to convince that I think there is an opening) not for single payer by the public option.  We can dream&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep wondering why the “me first…proud to be a member of the mob, screamer” folks  are not hauled out of these town hall meetings when they disrupt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hell even the Code Pinkers know that if they verbally interrupt a hearing etc their asses are hauled out.  If they resist being hauled out they are arrested.  Not sure why the same rules do not apply to the “mobsters”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know warn with a sign posted, announce at the beginning of the meeting and follow through.  The only person I have seen hauled out of one of these meetings was a black woman by some white male cops. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What gives?  Have not seen one of the big white guys hauled out when they disrupt of make a scene&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jane<br />
Will call.</p>
<p>Rallied some of the folks in our area who know more about single payer than any body I know to have a meeting with Senator Voinovich (they think he is a lost cause, but I did my best to convince that I think there is an opening) not for single payer by the public option.  We can dream</p>
<p>Keep wondering why the “me first…proud to be a member of the mob, screamer” folks  are not hauled out of these town hall meetings when they disrupt.</p>
<p>Hell even the Code Pinkers know that if they verbally interrupt a hearing etc their asses are hauled out.  If they resist being hauled out they are arrested.  Not sure why the same rules do not apply to the “mobsters”</p>
<p>You know warn with a sign posted, announce at the beginning of the meeting and follow through.  The only person I have seen hauled out of one of these meetings was a black woman by some white male cops. </p>
<p>What gives?  Have not seen one of the big white guys hauled out when they disrupt of make a scene</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
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		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see.</p>
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		<title>By: ShotoJamf</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShotoJamf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yup.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.</p>
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