On Tuesday, Common Purpose held its weekly meeting where lobbyist Erik Smith and a comm person from the White House tell liberal interest groups what they should be saying that week. Then if anyone gets out of line, they kick their asses. Along with Unity 09 and the 8:45 am call, they exist to form a solid left flank and keep the White House immune from liberal criticism. I like to call them collectively "the veal pen."
This week’s meeting was somewhat remarkable — as Jonathan Martin reported, Rahm Emanuel showed up. But Martin’s account is an entirely sanitized version of the meeting. It sounds like Rahm dictated it himself, in anticipation of the stories that would no doubt immediately start to materialize about the heated event. In JMart’s version, Rahm made a "request" and said that "he didn’t like seeing dollars used by liberal groups to target congressional Democrats."
Um, it’s missing a few words, most of them four letters in length.
Admittedly I wasn’t there and like about 9,000 other people in DC just heard tales that made their way down the food chain, but it appears Greg Sargent wasn’t so easily played:
Sources at the meeting tell me that Emanuel went on a tirade against the Dem-versus-Dem attacks, calling them “f–king stupid.” This was a direct attack on some of the attendees in the room, who are running ads against Dems right now.
Tellingly, Rahm raised the specter of a loss on health care, sources at the meeting say — which suggests that the White House may be less certain about victory than officials allow publicly.
“He started out with, `We’re 13 and 0 going into health care,’” one source at the meeting said, meaning that Rahm was touting the White House’s string of pre-health care legislative victories.
Look, Rahm has told the Blue Dogs they can do what they want to on health care. Maxine Waters confirmed it. When the Blue Dogs held the bill hostage, they got everything they wanted — Rahm and Jan "bail" Schakowsky got progressives to drop their very meaningful demands, which Mike Ross acknowledged "would have led to single payer." They gave them up in exchange for a meaningless floor vote on single payer. Go team.
Rahm was always going to beat the shit out of progressives to vote for a bad bill. The goal of the whip count effort was to make it impossible to pass a bad bill by getting progressives to commit to vote against one in sufficient numbers, such that Rahm had to either beat the Blue Dogs up or fail. But first he was always going to beat up the progressives.
The organizations that are usually at the Common Purpose meeting include Rock the Vote, the unions, the LCCR, the Sierra Club, HCAN, Bob Creamer (Jan Schakowsky’s husband) of Americans United for Change, CAP, Media Matters, MoveOn, Campaign for America’s Future and numerous other groups that earn their seat at that particular table by not bucking the White House. (The notable exception is MoveOn, who bravely sent a letter to their members telling them to contact the White House and tell Obama to rein Rahm in on triggers. I’m going to guess THAT precipitated quite the phone call.)
Rahm unleashed a tirade on them all, telling them that they were going to fuck up the Democrats if we "failed" to pass any old health care bill (which appears now to be the health insurance industry approved co-ops). But I doubt you’ll hear any of them confirming that the White House hasn’t pressured them to stop their attacks on Democrats any time soon, because it came in the form of a flying shit fit at top volume with four-letter verbiage liberally applied.
Shorter Rahm: Leave the Blue Dogs ALOOOOOOONEE!!!





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Yes, we need to keep focused on pushing for a robust public option. I mailed out eleven such letters to various Dem congressman a few days ago.
The ”Town Mauls” are worth following, but I think the most effective thing we can do is buck up those liberals in Congress so they don’t agree to a plan with co ops.
The Blue Dogs are Rahm’s kennel. He’s the one that built that caucus to what it is today. What they are doing is with his full consent, if not direction.
So, sorry, Rahm. This is not the generals. This is primary season. Progressive policies win the day here, and we’ll spend our money on what we want. I’ll snap back into line after the primary, but until then – Single Payer On The Table, Single Payer Now.
There may be violence!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..o-meetings
I do not want to see any of our side get hurt.
I wonder if the FBI will look at this.
Yes we should go but we need to be safe.
Are we allowed to link to the archives of Sherman Skolnick from Chicago?
I agree with Rahm ‘Dem on Dem’ attacks are Fucking Stupid. So with all that cleared up I say we triple our effort at calling these mother fuckers out that have (D) behind their name and work like hell to violate every damn plank in the platform that was voted on in Denver and these pricks ran on to get elected.
Single payer.
Rahm wants to fight.
Take on this Vietnam veteram.
Yeah, I drink a lot.
But fuck him.
HHS had an interesting town hall meeting this afternoon. Their health care reform ideas are brilliant and hopefully America will be better off when a bill is put together and passed. I hope everyone will just relax, listen and study the facts then make up your own mind as to what is the truth and what is a myth. People need to think for themselves rather than listening to comedians and commentators on any news or radio program. If you really want to get the best news, BBC America does a better job than CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBC or CBS. Google HHS and read for yourself what their goals are. If you are one of the 187 million who already have health care insurance and are happy with it, keep it. You don’t have to do anything but pay more every year for the insurance and pay more in those deductibles. If you have Medicaid or Medicare, nothing is going to change except you may see more efficiency in paper work and quality of care. If you aren’t happy with what you have take a look at the public option, it’s your choice. Having competition will most likely cut double digit increases every year in those health care insurance premiums to lobby congress with your money, not to pay for your health care, plus if you loose your job, or have a pre existing condition those rich insurance companies can no longer drop your coverage or deny you health care when you need it most. In other words, they can’t ration your health care anymore if a bill gets passed. Rick Boucher voted no on HCR because he’s worried about hospital survival. He is well aware of the acceptable standards of health care in this rural area and is more concerned about the big corporate profit machine surviving than you, his constituents. I don’t think he is in touch with health care reform at all because reform will help hospitals cut costs to help them survive. It may even weed out those who shouldn’t even be in business all across America. Hospital acquired infection is a problem that needed addressed many years ago and is being ignored to this day even by Governor Bredesen, Governor Kaine and Congressman Boucher. It will save money but more importantly it will save lives, but the status quo is just fine the way it is in VA and TN, according to the politicians. When I worked in health care, I wasn’t there to make the insurance industry or the hospital wealthy, I was there to help a patient get healthy. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 It’s sad to see what happened to what used to be the best health care in the world. To me, no no no and no choice is not an option, we need reform now.
I don’t want a bad bill passed I hope our side can find the Stones to say no to a bad bill. If they can then lets see if Rahm can whip those mangy dogs he brought in to our house.
Blue Dogs are your pets Rahm clean up their mess don’t ask us to bend over backwards to clean up their mess and pass a bad bill.
Childish anger Temper Tantrums do not become a leader.
Here is my comment back to ‘Tiny Dancer’ – you go Fuck Yourself because many of US have been on to your game from the get-go. In the end, Axelrod will deal with you because he will not let Obama be taken down like you are set out to do.
Sure why not ?
So I waited for 30 years for Rahm’s shit-flinging bullshit?
Jesus, Mary, and Joesph…
Time for some progressive political jujitsu.
Maybe Rahm needs a drink to loosen up the stick up his…
Blue Dog Republicans.
We need to stop saying they’re democrats. We shouldn’t even dignify them with Blue Dog DINO.
Reactionary Running Blue Dogs anyone?
I am unlucky enough to be “represented” by Mark Warner, detailed in this Business Week article (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_33/b4143034820260_page_2.htm)for his using his office as a revolving door for United Health Care and the Lewin Group. Honestly, it is not stupid to be angry that this shill/tool pretends to represent us. It’s necessary. And we are not the cause. Warner himself is.
I vote for a couple of modern Shoalin monks.
should have read, “it’s not stupid to be angry that…”
Well,be careful what you ask for.
Try Googling Rahm Emmanuel and Nugan Hand Bank.
Or, Rahm Emmanuel and Sherman Skolnick.
Why not just Running Dogs?
“Rahm Emanuel, you have failed to grasp Ti Kwan Leep. Approach me, that you might see.”
How about slobbering dogs.
I really detest that smirking Rahm. I just sent another angry e-mail to the WH. Said that Rahm put together the Blue Dogs for his own power and that they would torpedo everything progressive they could.
This for certain is a lie:
We are all aware that they failed to get the Insurance Companies to come to a deal and this was their ‘big get’ and they missed by a long shot. With respect to the PHARMA deal – they were trying for $120 Billion+ and ended up with $80 Billion verbal agreement which isn’t worth shit. Hell if I was told to save $80 Billion over 10 years for Big PHARMA I could do that without trying.
Nah, I been around too many wet mouth St Bernards. It’d be an insult to a wonderful breed.
I always liked, “Here, hold this, motherfucker.”
Yeah your pencil wouldn’t even have to be particularly sharp. Hell you could do it with a crayon.
I am sure they spent a lot of time worrying how they could sacrifice 80 billion to make an extra 180 billion.
I love it when Rahm hasta go nuclear…it means his pants are down and his scrawny ass is hangin’ out. Like I said before, healthcare reform legilation is NOT gunna be written by Blue Dogs or Max Baucus. I think Obama is usin’ Rahm ta get the progressives movin and I think it’s workin.
Has anyone told Rahm that we don’t walk in lockstep like rethugs.
In the end if there isn’t substantial reform then it is inevitable that more and more employers will drop health care insurance as an employee benefit, or will offer plans that are increasingly expensive to the employees in terms of co=pays, deductibles, benefits caps, and reduced coverage. Businesses will have to do this in order to compete globally with businesses that do not have to pay outrageous premiums for employee health care plans.
The longer the system goes without substantial reform the closer it gets to single payer when it implodes. That’s the part that the Blue Dogs fail to grasp to my continuing amazement.
If Democrats cannot get a health care bill that reforms health insurance practices, which can be done without a public option, and bends back health care costs, which cannot be done without a strong public option plan, they should not vote for the plan. The private health care insurance system will eventually become too expensive for employers to afford and it will gradually disintegrate. Meanwhile, there is absolutely no justification for continuing to give employers a deduction against income taxes for health care. I don’t want it to be treated as income to employees, I just want the deduction eliminated because it is based on a failed model and should not be supported from a macroeconomic standpoint.
The GOP will not come to the Blue Dogs assistance, nor should the Democrats. Let the health care delivery system stay unreformed and it will fall apart in the not too distant future.
Blue Running Dogs.
The Jackal/Dingo caucus.
Got a call or two or three from the DCCC the other day – I told them to take my name off of their lists; there is no way in hell that I am going to send them money so they can support blue dogs.
You know, I’m not sure all of us count all 13 of those victories as ours. I certainly don’t count the supplemental as a victory, although Rahm surely does. I’m not even sure I count the industry-giveaway cap’n’trade as a victory, but I’m sure Rahm does.
As long as everything is evaluated based on a win/loss ratio, I’m not sure I’ll ever like what this White House fights for.
Totally – when I was in my MBA program with and emphasis on Health Care I had classes with a few Pharma Reps and shit just there damn monthly ‘wine and dine’ funds were $5000 or more and would get written up if they did not use it.
Also, hey we want to sale this drug for $120/scipt but we need to show Rahm we saved $80 Billion so we now are going to push it for $110.
I mean shit this is ‘fake money’ if there every was.
One thing I am certain is they are not ’sacrificing’ anything except for ‘paper savings’.
I’m becoming increasingly convinced we need a post healthcare bill strategy.
Yes, there’s the issue of how to manage this issue at hand right now and fight for what we want. But it’s sure not going to be what we really need.
So what’s going to happen afterwards? They need to pay some sort of political price, and if we could think ahead far enough, and strategically, we could probably muster better influence.
Clearly it hasn’t dawned on Rahm that he is dealing with Democrats. Since when do we get “marching orders” from the top and meekly fall in line?
In response to his outburst, I am contributing more money for ads “encouraging” Blue Dogs to support a single payer system.
AS far as I am concerned, Rahm can go screw himself.
Dear Rahm
Back off on Blue Dogs? Not a chance.
Who do you believe got you into the White House?
Fuck Off
progressive me
Rahm is the product of a system that is corrupt thru and thru and until the oligarchy is called out -like Tabibi has- (and i include Obama in that class)
it’s like I said when he was elected, “Meet the new boss,same as the old boss’.
What we are seeing is called ‘COA’(continuation of administrations); h/t to
Danny Schechter.
That disgusting little man is basically telling us to kowtow to the Blue Dogs and to go along with all the closed-door corporate deals he makes. US! Who gave them money and time! It’s none of their business what we do. Rahm can go rally the Dogs Followers next election and see how much enthusiasm he can muster.
Why don’t they fight back against the rabid right? Maybe work with the FCC concerning some of the shit that Glen Beck and Limbaugh have been spouting.
Mandated insurance, indeed. Next they’ll be mandating that we do all our shopping at Walmart.
I’m not so sure. I think that if Big Ins. and Big Pharma get the bill they want (which seems likely) they would climb all over the rethugs and get enough votes to pass it. They have the money, that’s all that really counts.
So what are the pharmacists going to have to do. If a elder is under insurance the price is x if they are in the donut hole it is x/2. If a person under 65 needs it is x x 2.
Once upon a time I had a Rottweiler who enjoyed the obedience game. So we went to classes together and worked to a CDX before she died of cancer. The judge who got us our third (and qualifying) leg on the CDX worked Goldens herself.
She said after it was all done, “You know, you may not be able to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, but you can make an awfully nice leather purse.”
So, if we’re going to be forced into the sow’s ear of co-ops, let’s make them really nice leather purse co-ops.
Damn. (To use a four-letter word), sounds like we’re winning. Some WATB Congresscritters apparently don’t like the heat coming from the left.
You remember the Rahmbo quote where he claimed any damn bill was a win? That’s not a way to build an enduring legacy.
I’m sympathetic to you, but the question who will be harmed by the collapse of the system, and how much will they be harmed?
Thanks a bunch – I am glad to have the company. I hope others do the same a message must be sent loud and clear.
I’m not sure it’s even dawned on Rahm that many Americans’ quality of life is at stake here. He thinks it’s all about his power.
So, no lines in the sand, ever?
I mean, for a lot of us, the public option is a HUGE compromise from single-payer. Now, co-ops are the next compromise. And they won’t work, that’s pretty clear. So the GOP and their Blue Doggie pals have helped craft a system that won’t work?
Can you imagine the backlash against Democrats if Social Security had been this badly designed, and had failed ten years in? How about Medicare? Because that’s what will happen with co-ops, why do you think insurance companies want them so badly?
ROFLMAO – I guess you may be right.
Thank you Jane!
Rahm and the Blue Dogs? Sounds like a lame lounge band in polyester.
Dogs, whatever color… eat… shit…
Sorry to be offensive, but the truth needs to be told.
These people only care about their own self inflated egos.
Their constituents are Insurance companies and corporations, not citizens.
Vote them out of office.
Come November 2010
All the Blue Dogs have got to go!
Thanks for the response, but I’m afraid we may be talking past each other. My only point was that most of the rethugs will genuflect for big money interests just about anytime (and I think most Dems would do so too, to be honest).
As far as a collapse of the health delivery system, I don’t really see it. More likely IMO is a continuation of the gradual decline for the working class (and not just in health care).
Well to badly parapharase Keynes, “In the not too distant future some of us will be dead”
On a purely political basis accepting the tradeoff of no bill in 2009 for a better bill in 2011 might make sense. But for a guy over 50 with some pre-existing conditions whose insurance went away when his job did in March 2007 such a strategy carries with it the scent of “Heighten the Contradictions”. Which is to say the fall back position of revolutionaries who are not generally themselves in personal straits.
People may well decide that over the long term this country will be better off holding out for a stronger public option than taking a plan that at least regulates the insurance company to eliminate denials for pre-conditions, post diagnosis rescissions, and excessive rating gaps between the old and the young. Just remember that like in any call for revolution some people are going to die as a consequence.
I am not suggesting that any loss is too much, that is a recipe for paralysis. But it is something to be reflective about. I see figures of 18,000 people a year dying because they don’t have health insurance. I don’t know if that is high or low, givin the cumulative effects going forward I would think low. Certainly something to keep in mind, this is not or should not just be a dispassionate decision. For me and millions more ‘lives in the balance’ is not just a cheap cliche.
Badly designed co-ops will fail. Put them on a state-by-state basis, and they’ll fail. It’s not clear that they will fail if they are well-structured. I’m not saying don’t draw lines, Teddy. I am saying have a contingency plan if the line is crossed.
I’ve told them this many times. I specifically told them I donate through ActBlue, and that DNC/DCCC/DSCC will not be successful with me until they quit supporting the Jackal Caucus.
Co-ops will be badly designed so that they will fail. That’s why insurance companies want them. You don’t think they — and their handmaiden Kent Conrad — want a robust option, do you?
My advice to Rahm and the Whitehouse is that if they don’t want progressive ads against Dems, they should write a bill that is consistent with the wishes of the people who got them elected and NOT the insurance and pharma lobbys.
I’d rather see NO bill than a crap bill that doesn’t fix the problems. I’d have no issue with a single payor system. That notwithstanding, a bill that doesn’t include a robust public option is a bill that should be killed. The reason Obama’s polling is dropping is because the people already see that Baucus and the Blue Dogs have sold out the People to the special interests.
If you want respect, be a leader for the People. Stop allowing the Republicans and Blue Dogs to gut the bill. The only certainty in that game is that the bill will be inadequate to address the problems and there won’t be one Republican vote in favor.
I disagree. The system will collapse under its own weight. It’s too expensive and too laden with perverse incentives to providers. Health care already is 1/6 of GDP, and growing at twice the rate of anything else of any size. That’s unsustainable. It’s going to collapse, the only questions are when, how hard, and who is going to get hurt.
I love to catch the Lake when NorskeFlamethrower has spoken!
I’m with you, guy!
Fuck Rham Emanuel and the Blue Dog curs he rode in with! His head will look good on one of the pickets surrounding the White House. It’s way past time to see the likes of Emanuel and Ross as enemies of the people. The only thing enemies of the people are deserving of is a last cigarette and a blindfold.
No, I’m quite certain they don’t want a viable option. On the other hand, one could be constructed and proposed. They’re saying co-ops, and I’m saying fine, let’s design co-ops that will work.
Anything that supports the insurance model will fail to cut costs.
Doctors have about 3 people in their back office to deal with claims. The Insurance companies have another 3 to deal with doctors. That’s at least $500,000 overhead per doctor.
Coops may cut out profits, coops won’t cut out salary and claim overhead. How will these coops market their products? Marketing is expensive.
All these proposal won’t cut the stupid fee-for-service payment model, nor the absolutely obscene costs to get a Medical Degree.
All the Sturm-und-drang is like putting a dress on a Pig. It annoys the Pig and wastes your time.
Here’s a post suggesting how co-ops could be something other than epic fail.
So this is pretty much what many of us read or suspected. Besides buying into or paid by Phama, Obama/Emanuel grab defeat from the jaws of victory.
Instead of calling Congress back from their undeserved vacation, Obama lets the steam out of the process and will settle for a weak sister co-op plan when our esteemed Congress returns for the next
cluster fucksession.Mandated Health Insurance is a ‘Right to Breathe Tax’
and possibly an unconstitutional taking. In auto insurance, driving an auto is a privilege, and mandated insurance is possible.
We should start call Mandated Health Insurance a Right To Breath Tax.
With the prospect of 18,000 people dying because of the lack of health care we can hope and pray that the 18,001st will be Rham Emanuel for his being in league with the devil.
I would agree that the current growth in health care is unsustainable, but I don’t see it as a Hobson’s choice of continuation on the present path or collapse. IMO health care will become more and more limited to those with the means to obtain it, gradually cutting more people out of participation. IOW more people will continue to lose coverage and be denied needed care, but as the number of uninsured increase the percent of GDP spent on health care will decline.
We may just need to agree to disagree.
Not enough savings. Still insurance based.
A superb article from an insider on the OTHER side of the health debate.
Really intriguing insight.
Right-Wing Turncoat Gives the Inside Scoop on Why Conservatives Are Rampaging Town Halls
By Frank Schaeffer, AlterNet. Posted August 7, 2009.
I respect that argument and I think you make fair points.
But it looks like what we’ll get won’t be insurance for the uninsured. Rather we’ll get a redistribution of wealth, where everyone is forced to pay into a system that covers the uninsured, and the insurance industry skims off all the money. The uninsured get the toenail clippings that are left over.
Without cost control mechanisms, people like you and me (I’m the same age) will just pay more for the same insurance we have, maybe more. The only difference is that we could get pre-existing conditions covered.
There is no need to demand that insurance companies get a huge bailout at taxpayer expense to do this. Even (as many here are quick to point out) the “public plan” outlined in 3200 would have many of these limitations, but there was at least a hope that it could be something that we could make better over time, and in the mean time it would make many people’s lives improve.
Without cost controls, I’m afraid it’s just a way to bleed everyone dry.
Rham Emanuel would have been an excellent advisor to Louis XVI. A sell out to the “people” all in the name of greed, money and power unable to see the winds of change on the horizon. Does not anyone think Rham is thinking about a tidy 7 figure salary on leaving D.C. and doing the bidding of the ruling elites? May “tiny dancer” rot in hell.
Rahm and his dogs ought to get use to being put on a leash that has some real progressive/Lafollette types on the other end cuz if these little doggies think they get to pee where ever they let go guess again.
At this point it is plain to see the inside game is the for profits,pharma and likely any other lizards hanging nearby are getting what they want. And some more then too.
Single Payer Plan? What Single Payer Plan? Never got on the train.
The robust “Public Option” that was put on the train instead? Pushed off the train and anyone who thought sending a weaker plan into this fight was a good idea deserves to get pushed off the train too.
A “co-op” approach? Senator Rockefeller(D-West Virginia) at some point during past couple of weeks dressed this stillborn “idea” down quite completely. Even Senator Rockefeller–who’s not even the cool guy as it is on the progressive corner gets it.
Doing “bipartisanship” with the GOPer types? Foghorn Leghorn meets Dog.
Who is getting whacked with the board here?
Obama WH wants to tamp down the “left”? Who the hell got this bunch of pretenders into the WH again? Jesu Christo!! Got this order of procession ass end backwards Obama WH–
So–what to do? Hit full stop for a start–because this pile of manure is not going to be anything other than a pile of manure–the insiders paid in and are now withdrawing aplenty. This so called “reform” of Americans healthcare dysfuction and profitsrama is a fraud. The fraudsters pumping the beat here are either good liars or craptastic liars but liars they be.
It is way past due time for the for profit gangsters in American healthcare to not get what they want and in fact be taken out of the game.
Rahm–if you are not getting this or your boss is not getting this then you ought to be thinking about what you will be doing after 2012 because with any luck you won’t be back in the WH.
Getting no healthcare reform is better than this stinkpile.
They want to force Americans to buy health insurance from the for profits?
They want a diluted or gutted public co-op plan that is to compete with the for profit gangsters? It will surely fall way short,fail or get bought out by the same gangsters it was intended to curb.
They want everything to stay about the same but be more lucrative.
Who decided to call this “reform” again? Reform what exactly? The theft MO?
So Rahm basically fucked the chances of single payer and maybe the public option.
Did Rahm really expect progressives (who worked their asses of for Obama) to roll over and beg? Fuck Rahm Emmanuel could never figure out why Obama selected him anyway. Except to keep his eye on him
And Rahm and Jan are setting up her run for Senate. Hopefully someone else will step up to the plate against Jan.
Anyone seen this yet? It’s going around the wingnut email circuit.
http://action.afa.net/videos/aarp/
You do know that Rahm spent a great deal of time living in Arkansas during the Clinton years?
Check out Jackson Stephens and the Clintons some time.
I suggest that we begin educating our grandchildren so they can educate their grandchildren on what will be needed to make universal healthcare single payer a reality in the U.S..
The fee-for-service model has to go. It is so laden with perverse incentives for practitioners and the insurers that it’s stupid.
If we’re going to have mandatory insurance, then the rates have to be regulated and coverage mandated. Corporate profits have to be capped, admin costs and profits at say, 7%. Medicare is running 2 – 2.5% on admin costs, so we’ll add regulated profit to that.
How long do you think the private insurers will stay in under that model? The few not-for-profits left will be okay with it, but the investor-owned companies are going to get out of the business if they can’t jack rates and coverage around.
Hey,it’s all in the family,right?
Emanuel , Rham’s brother and NObamas Health Advisor says …This shit sounds like its coming from Mengle or something . Rhambo’s Brother says infants and seniors are ” expendable ” July 30, …
forum.pafoa.org/…/67430-ezekiel-emanuel-rhams-brother-nobamas-health-advisor-says-infants-seniors.html – Similar
What armband is Ezekiel Emanuel hiding under that jacket? – NJ …Jul 30, 2009 … July 30, 2009 (LPAC)–Obama health-care policy advisor Ezekiel Emanuel announced a new “Complete Lives System” for selecting which sections …
blog.nj.com/njv…/what_armband_is_ezekiel_emanue.html – Cached – Similar
Obama Advisor, Health Care Architect, Criticized as Backing …Aug 4, 2009 … name Ezekiel Emanuel, but he could have the power to shape the health care … Emanuel is the health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and … “Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts [rationing in health care] …
http://www.lifenews.com/bio2908.html – Cached – Similar
Ezekiel Emanuel Appointed as Healthcare AdvisorThis is from the Wall Street Journal’s Washington Wire: “Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a prominent bioethicist at the National Institutes of Health–and the brother of …
http://www.healthpolicywatch.org/comm…..pedid=2160 – Cached – Similar
One has to remove the administrative overhead. Or the savings will be minimal.
Make you wonder who’s side Emanual is on.
You want it that way, Rahm? You don’t want me going apeshit over those RIGHT WING Blue Dogs who are really Republicans in the Democratic Party?
Fine. Just take my name off those DNC, DCCC and DSCC list and stop pestering me with those damn phone calls asking me for MORE contributions!!
If you want us to support DINOs, then you can kiss my ass getting any more money from me!!
Satisfied now, Rahm?
Tom Wieliczka
I don’t wonder – he is on Rahm’s side. Power, greed, money and maybe a try for the WH some day.
Please see # 17.
Note to Tweety: We don’t give a rats ass what Rham thinks. Mmkay.
Sad but probably true. I would counter that what we need to do is ‘form’ a strong progressive party/movement that is not bound by agreements within the Democratic Party. A 100 member caucus that is dead-set on something can usually get it done. We really just need Progressives to keep the ‘ideas’ part but ‘grow a set of balls and a spine of steel’. That way when it comes time to the arm twisting – it is known don’t even go to that caucus.
Rahm Baby doesn’t give a rat’s ass about “party unity”. He cares about loyalty to Rahm and is as ruthless about demanding it as any Roman general was in crucifying those he considered disloyal to the “cause”.
Rahm identifies with the GOP and their Blue Dogs and so let’s them sniff any parts they find aromatic. Rahm has been more respectful of their opposition to what the president claims he wants than to the progressive wing of his own party, which represents what two thirds to three quarters of Americans say they want.
The only suitable response to Rahm’s priorities and loyalties is that he go Cheney himself. He’s the one who should quit the scene to spend more time with his family, not progressives.
They want to force Americans to buy health insurance from the for profits?
That is what scares the hell out of me the most. And I have healthcare. Shitty allbeit but none the less. What will the poor folks who already can’t even afford food do? What will the people who have no jobs do?
As for Rahm and his cursing: It is unbelievable I ever thought he was smart. For decades, I heard people tell me cursing was only for stupid people. They said people cussed because they didn’t have a good vocabulary. Even as a teenager, I knew this made no sense and wasn’t true and as with other canards from old people, I ignored it.
But Rahm has been doing this so long, I think, “He really DOESN’T have a good vocabulary, or IQ points.” Why does he do it? It’s obvious he does it because it intimidates people. But WHY? Maybe I am just different from average Americans (well, I know I am), but why would cursing intimidate you? I remember reading years ago that George Stephanopolis had to see a shrink, he was so traumatized by Bill Clinton’s temper and outbursts. I have always — ALWAYS — said, “If something bothers you THAT much, get out!” That doesn’t make you a quitter, per se; it just means you think life is too short for BS in your life that you CAN control.
They become “profit centers” for BCBS and Co.
OT ,but interesting in the greater scheme of things-
What caught my eye and ear about Schakowsky:
Sun Jul-12-09 07:39 PM
Original message
Jan Schakowsky: Dick Cheney’s program validates Nancy Pelosi
http://www.politico.com/news/s…..24815.html
Jan Schakowsky: Dick Cheney’s program validates Nancy Pelosi
By ALEX ISENSTADT | 7/12/09 5:09 PM EDT
Asked if Panetta’s charge offered validation to the speaker’s complaint of being misled by the agency, Schakowsky responded: “Absolutely.”
Schakowsky, who chairs the House Intelligence Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee, said that it only reinforced the need for the launch of formal investigation into the CIA’s practices.
“What it does is really propel a prompt investigation,” Schakowsky said. “An explicit decision was made at the highest levels not to report this program.”
I wasn’t saying it was optimal, just that there are co-op based reforms that aren’t total epic fail. We should hold out for a robust public option if there’s any way to make it happen.
snark tag
Personally I’d like single payer. It would also please me if every 10 year old girl that wants a pony gets a pony.
SOOO, Rahm, do you think this ‘polluted’ Blue Dog caucus is what put you people in the WH?
YOUR ‘negotiation skills’ that had ’single payer’ off the table BEFORE discussions even started has YOU on ‘thin ice’ with US and the CONCESSIONS that Progressives have given up on everything from FISA to GITMO is starting to look like a ‘pattern’ that YOU are going to regret when you look up and its you and Max ‘the shill’ Baucus standing by YOURSELF, the POWER is not YOURS its OURS and WE DON’T NEED YOU….
We could buy every 10-year old girl a $2000 pony for $400B and it would still cost less than this would.
I said something similar, and lit into them on the statute of limitation running on the criminal activities of the previous administration, and that we’d really like to see some of them pay a visit to the Hague, on one-way tickets.
This ain’t the change I voted for.
Am actually working with NYCEve on that. Yep, we need a post health care bill strategy very much, and as Eve says, when the bill passes – that’s when the battle starts.
Please, what is rahmmy’s email address? I want to tell him how wonderful a job he’ doing. Really.
Noah was asked by one of his sons, who was sitting on the deck during the storm.
>>Dad how can you stand the stench of all of these animals?
>Son if it wasn’t for the storm outside I couldn’t.
>But there is a storm outside so lets both go inside to the stench.
Thus the genesis of politics.
Rahm is a disgusting excuse for a person, politician.
I remember him all over the cable networks after the Dems’ 2006 victory. He acted like it was his brainchild. It wasn’t. It was then DNC Chairman Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy which got them the Congress. Rahm was against it. He wanted to do the usual “kiss the GOP ass” DLC type of crap.
What a moron. Obama needs to fire his ass.
What a moron. Obama needs to fire his ass.
Seconded.
J, without wishing to impinge on your Rahm-hating — ‘cuz I’m right there with you — we might all do well to remember that while the 50 state strategy succeeded excellently in terms of getting enough D’s onto the Congressional seating chart, it may also have carried the seeds of this current fiasco in that it had to recruit so many R’s in D’s clothing that any actually controlling majority could never be attained for really big changes like this one is supposed to be. Or financial system reform. Etc etc etc.
Oh, that reminds me: If Rahmbo wants to take credit for the 50SS, then I lustily say: Fuck Rahmbo for that too.
Bingo
The me-first, screw-everyone-else crowd
Nothing will keep the rich from whining about how tough easy street is
By David Sirota
http://www.salon.com/opinion/f…..a_selfish/
http://www.salon.com/opinion/w…..th_panels/
But seriously, folks: Obama death panels?
I’ve been writing about “town hells” and anti-health care reform hysterics, as well as the crazy Birthers, for a few weeks. Every few days, I think: Maybe we’re giving these fringe folks the oxygen they need; maybe we should ignore them. But it all got even loonier today, and it can’t be ignored.
NorskeFlamethrower,
What an optimist you are.
Bait and switch: How the “public option” was sold
It’s not a prospect. And it may be even more than 18,000.
Yes. Without controlling the cost of medical care,it doesn’t matter
if we have single pay or insurance companies. The mayo Clinic manages
their cost by paying physicians salaries and not by how many procedures
they do. Looking at cost saving measures such as this will help.
We better hurry. Every 10 seconds someone turns 65
Correction, Jane:
Rahm worked very hard to get those assholes elected, sometimes going so far as to get a Republican to cross party lines to primary a liberal.
Also, I’d like to quote you:
Emphasis added.
I.e., nobody should harbor any illusions that this is happening without Obama’s approval.
There will be a LOT of “getting mad” time between now and 2010. I’d love to see Progressives shoving Democrats HARD from the Left.
I can envision the GOP with its tongue hanging out, gasping its last miserable breath, while the new “Conversatives”, the Democrats, find themselves fighting for their lives from the Barbarian Horde Leftist onslaught.
Mark my words . . you heard it here first . . . might not happen by next year, and I’m willing to be entirely wrong – and of course predictions are never all that – but, frankly, I’ve been so damm right so often recently . . .
Just another reason I’ll never be invited to any of those meetings.