h/t nirbao
As funny as it is to hear folks shouting "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!", I shake my head at those who scream that we’ll end up with rationing health care if the government gets involved. Huh? Haven’t they heard that rationing is the business model that keeps the insurance companies happy?
Don’t believe me? Ask your local neighborhood member of the clergy. Chances are they will tell you stories like these:
We visit our shut in members, and see the bottles of prescriptions on the countertop. "Let me tell you about these," says the shut-in. "This one is for A, that one is for B, and this one . . . well, it’s supposed to be for C, but the insurance company wouldn’t let the doctor prescribe the drug SHE thought best. ‘It’s not on our list,’ they told her. So I’m taking this one, but it doesn’t seem to be working as well as it should. Maybe it works for others, but not me — but try telling the insurance company that . . ."
We hear that a member of the congregation is going to have surgery, and ask for details so we can visit them or be with family during the operation. "Well, pastor, we’re still not sure. The doctors want to do this one procedure, but the insurance company thinks that it’s too experimental and wants them to do something else. My primary care doctor wants to send me hospital A so this one particular surgeon can do it (once they figure out what "it" is), but the insurance company wants me to go to hospital B — and the surgeon my doc wants to send me to doesn’t have privileges there. . ."
We visit members who are in the hospital, and ask how long the doctor thinks they will be there. "He’d like me to stay another two days or maybe three, but the insurance company wants me out tomorrow. Don’t get me wrong — I really want to go home — but if my doctor wants me to stay, I’ll do what he says. Anyway, he and the bean counters are still arguing about it . . "
We visit with couples where one has a terminal illness, and more and more often, the conversation is turning to not just the emotional costs of the impending death, but the financial cost to the survivors. One of those who was ill once told me, "Pastor, I know I’m that when I die I’m going to leave my partner, but I don’t want to leave my partner broke as well. I thought I had decent insurance, but now that I need it, it isn’t really there."
Health care reform can’t wait.
If you’re a member of the clergy, talk to your parishioners and talk to your members of Congress. Lots of churchbodies have formal social statements on health care like this one from my denomination (ELCA), and there’s no time like the present for using denominational resources to help educate your congregation to the issues. As the introduction to that ELCA social statement says,
Health is central to our well-being, vital to relationships, and helps us live out our vocations in family, work, and community. Caring for one’s own health is a matter of human necessity and good stewardship. Caring for the health of others expresses both love for our neighbors and responsibility for a just society. As a personal and social responsibility, health care is a shared endeavor.
If you’re a member of a faith community, ask your community’s leaders to speak out and get involved. Often, clergypeople hold back on talking about potentially controversial issues, for fear of being accused of imposing their own agenda. But if members push for the leader to step up, it becomes an action of the community and not that of a pushy leader.
And if you’re a member of Congress reading this, go talk to your local clergy. They’ll give you a clearer picture on the need for reform than any lobbyist ever would, without all the spin.





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The GOP Jesus doesn’t want you to get well, he wants you in conservative heaven ASAP.
The GOP Jeebus sounds more like followers of Simon Magus than of Jesus of Nararene
Supply Side Jesus sez: don’t coddle lepers.
GOP Jesus is only concerned with before-life and afterlife, not real life.
TKM has a post today reporting on an article appearing in Business Week. if what is purported is in fact the bill that president obama signs, then all this has been for naught. just as in the misnamed 2003 medicare modernization act, it will only be another boon to the health care industry.
if you are not up to being heartbroken, do not read the article.
GOP Jesus cares up to birth and after death. In betweeen, you are on your own.
CNN Anchor Smacks Down Health Care CEO Funding Anti-Reform Effort
If you missed it live here is the ass who is all over TV trying to stop health care reform especially Public Option! These are the asses who we are fighting.
Thanks PeterR I do hear about that kind of thing all the time through the wife… she is the big church goer!!
There are letters to the editor in the local paper here in Georgia all the time from clergy that are totally opposed to health care reform.
Huff Posts says a fist fight broke out at a Tampa meeting with a congresswoman. Yep, we’re getting there – few more days and who knows.
Where was the Dragon today?
link?
Maybe he was there – you know how radical the hippies are. Just stirring up trouble all the time.
Apparently, the clergy is silent on the issue of torture,too.
A thought provoking essay,to be sure.
Ray McGovern: Torture and Cowardice
Why are American Religious Leaders Silent? Torture and Cowardice. By RAY McGOVERN … Those two articles are based on a new report from Human Rights Watch, … Do not we of the Judeo-Christian tradition also reject torture as inhuman …
http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern09272005.html – Cached – Similar
Seconded. And their God sounds more like Angry White God than the Bible’s God.
Someone would be in a trick bag.
It isn’t just the GOP. The problem we are facing are the very people we elected…Democrats, and dare I say, (GASP!) Obama?!
For Christ and, anyone else you care to call upon, GET OFF YOUR ASSSES AND PUSH!!! PUSH!!!! PUSH!!!!!
Why are America’s religious leaders silent? It’s not like we don’t have a really long tradition of religious liberalism in this country, from Brown on up- I mean, where the hell did it go all of a sudden?
@17
Methinks it’s all about fearing they will lose their tax exemptions .
Hmm,isn’t it way past time to drive the money changers out of both the pulpits and the temples?
They are so afraid of being political that they won’t even preach about “am I my brother’s keeper.” We have become a nation of cowards.
They aren’t all silent. NRCAT is doing tremendous work.
i just got a letter from ‘my’ senator cornyn showing me the letter he wrote obama. he doesn’t like obama asking to have anti-reform emails sent to him.
it does not mention in that letter that he’s in favor of domestic surveillance.
Gitcheegumee, you have a wonderful plan.
I have this horrible feeling you are correct, Twain, sir. I mean, I’m a really religious- deep down, to my core, gut-level religious- person, and it blows my mind that I can’t find any other Christians willing to fight against shit like this. They’re either silent or they listen to Rush Limbaugh. I feel like a fish out of water, no matter where I go.
As for JimWhite, thanks for the link! NRCAT, despite sounding like some sort of obscure lolcat joke, is awesome. I’ve went there and already signed the petition- I’ll probably go more often in future days.
Twain, you gotta be kiddin!
WOO HOO ,my mother-in-law’s Southern Baptist Conference Church TELLS them who to vote for/
Check out the You tube for Michelle Bachmann stumping FROM her Church up in Michigan.
CREW filed TWO IRS complaints against the Brooklyn Park Mega Church in Minnesota.One of the complaints was against the preacher for campaigning FOR Bachmann from his pulpit. The other for using church funds for financing his jetplane.
peterr, it must break your heart to hear stories like this over and over again.
Correction—-Make that Minnesota,NOT Michigan ,relating to Bachmann.
And you hate Obama, that’s pretty christian.
funny but it’s the insurance companies that are squeezing doctors, telling them what is and isn’t billable, my child hood friend is a chiropractor and he had to close his practice because the insurance companies wouldn’t allow the service
I use a therapy called “prolo therapy” which saves you from hip and knee replacements and I have to pay out of pocket for this recongnized therapy which happens to save the insurance company tens of thousands on me alone
Well, the Southern Baptists fall into a category all their own – as do mother-in-laws. They are fully aware that no one is going to make them stop so they do what they want. The ministers who are trying to follow the law are not speaking out. Someone might get their knickers in a twist because that “brother” might be brown.
He’s meaning liberal religious people. Conservative religious people have no qualms about it.
Glenn Beck just keeps getting crazier. In the middle of a debate on health care, he actually say that the government mandates that schools teach girls that they can have as many babies as they want and to not listen to their parents.
I swear. Here is the clip.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2427
Good grief, I wonder when Beck will finally lose his mind and just bite someone on television. You know it’s coming.
We need single payer
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http://bit.ly/HR676
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Thanks for the heads up!
My 16 relatives living in TX keep trying to get us to move down there and I hate the politics so…and the heat. So I told your favorite Senator, who doesn’t like getting e-mailed, I won’t be coming and copied all 16 (stupid, like who’d put up with that!) relatives.
And just to give equal time to the Catholic constituency, this is a very interesting piece:
Denver archbishop warns against ’spirit of adulation’ surrounding …It didn’t say Obama speaks the truth, it said that Obama, like Christ, is the truth. … I am so glad a prince of the Church is speaking out against the falseness of ….. denied health care to children, and used torture in the name of security. … Archbishop Chaput responds to Pelosi-Pope meeting …
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15176 – Cached – Similar
What.
Actually, clergy are also suffering from this health care fiasco. I have a relative who is a preacher’s wife of a small non-denominational evangelical church (hence no financial support other than direct support from the congregation), and she now has Celiacs. Well, unofficially, as if the doctor officially diagnoses her, she gets her insurance dropped, so they are conspiring not to get diagnosed. The husband, who is very right of center, actually agonized and finally voted for Obama just on the issue of health care (as is my experience, the right loves to rail against government ‘excess’ unless they are the ones in need of its help).
Thanks for this post Peterr! It would be great to start a running “stories” post where clergy could log-in and retell their health care stories from a ministry perspective due to shut-in and hospital visits.
Forwarded this link to some pastor friends.