Mark got a shot of his t-shirt, which had a picture of Obama and the slogan “Hitler gave good speeches, too”:

well, isn’t that special?

KO explained tonight that these “grassroots” buffoons are just mad because there’s a black man in the White House. I agree. When these buffoons are asked about their stances or asked to explain their rage further, they can’t because they’re not there for the issues! They (and Beck, Dobbs, Hannity, and others!) are afraid there’s a black man in the White House and are only using these fake gripes as a way to express this fear.

where were these people during the reign of GWB, during which time we actually had aspects of fascism as the law of the land?

plus, I want a national wingnut referendum to decide, once and for all, whether Obama is a fascist or a socialist.

It gets confusing.

Remember when these same assholes called us unpatriotic and traitorous America-haters for protesting George & Dickey the war criminals?

I talked to that kid. He was a meth head. He had that meth sweat smell. And I reported it here on the Seminal.

If you want more raw video, let me know.

yeah, but that was different.

at the moment, however, I can’t remember why….

Great diary! I linked it up in my post.

They all looked like they were loaded up on — I don’t know, extra chromosomes or something.

The voiceover made me laugh my ass off. “Fear and….death!”

Thanks Jane – but I would never have known to go if you hadn’t done your part.

I don’t want to live here anymore. This country is too scary.

If that kid had shown up at a Bush rally with a shirt that said “Bush is Hitler” he would probably have been stomped by the “faithful” then shown the door. And arrested for “disturbing the peace”.

Just sayin’.

For purely professional reasons, I am currently working on events immediately preceding the French Revolution. I’ve also had to read intensively in the history of the Fronde (a reactionary revolt during Louis XIV’s minority). We are coming into one of those situations. I don’t know if Obama gamed this out. I sure as hell hope he did. The difference between now and 1787/88 in France is that we have competent leadership. But make no mistake about it. This is a reactionary revolt, and people are going to be killed.

Sad !

I don’t understand why msnbc is calling these thugs a “grassroots” movement. There is nothing grassroots about being bussed in by lobbyists as part of an organized and well-funded national campaign of political intimidation.

“I don’t know if Obama gamed this out.”

At this point, I’m not so sure Obama has gamed much of anything out, particularly as regards domestic policy.

4legs GOOD…2 legs BAD….that is all

The wingnuts are revolting !
No , really they are going nuts this health care debate has gotten them whipped into a frenzy , all the nut cases have come out of the wood work
Simple minded people easily influenced and scared to death of change

im physically ill from the willful obtuseness of the merkin public

the “LIBERAL” MEDIA WHIPPED EM INTO FRENZY TERRITORY IMO

I want to continue to live here. I think the thugs should be the ones who have to leave ;-P

Has the Secret Service been notified about the “Euthanize Obama” lady? I’m no expert, but that would seem to be something they might want to look into. Isn’t a threat to the president, however veiled, like, ya know, illegal?

the media has really killed this country………….scumbags,detestable scum

None of them can explain their position with any coherence at all. And when challenged, they just yell louder. They can’t even seem to remember the talking points they were given on the bus. This is some scary mob action.

Well, Wasilla is the meth capital of Alaska, right?

im just truly sick at heart

oh and DOCTOR HOWARD DEAN screamed…yea,right

In an earlier discussion here it there was talk about letting the south secede from the USA.

It would involve relocating people in and out of the South. It would solve many problems despite all the good people who would have to leave their homes.

It’s radical but we are coming to loggerheads here.

Wasilla is the meth capital of Alaska.

And why is a 16-year-old in Denver, attending a demonstration, anyway?

what a different world President Dean would have created

DODT

He wasn’t the only wound-tight-foamer-under-40-there-who-smelled-a-little-amped-up.

Just saying.

These protests aren’t about health care they are about change. They give people who are afraid of change a voice a chance to be heard. There are some people who just can’t handle the changes that are occurring in our society.
No this isn’t about health care !

Because the bus stopped there, silly Teddy. :)

Aw, it’s a grassroots movement, doncha know?

Talk about being oblivious to irony, they consider themselves pro-democracy (or at least anti-socialism and/or anti-fascism) and insist on exercising their First Amendment rights by denying people with opposing views the opportunity to exercise THIER First Amendment rights.

the south is too pretty and diverse. I’ve long argued that we should offer them southwestern Oklahoma or some other dust bowl region as a homeland instead. Inhofe can be their king ;-)

argh@#$%^,my 4th nite to take ambien,…i just cant sleep lately….good nite all,ill go donate some more petty cash….nitol

Maybe that’s how they’re getting busloads of cretins to these events. Like humane mousetraps, only instead of cheese, they put crank on the bus seats.

Hmmm, don’t know. Hers was the only printed sign that said something so egregious, but there was a lotta words which were basically the same thing.

Since I count on the NSA to read blogs, I expect them to forward to the appropriate authorities. /snark

G’nite, sadly.

I fear that violence isn’t too far off . I’m sure real violence will occur at one of these town meetings . I wonder how many of these people might be carrying guns? These are the types that favor that type of thing !

I continue to wonder what, exactly, the consideration might be for those individuals being bused in. Free lunch, lodging, transpo, other? Sounds like income to me. This stuff being reported on any 1040’s?

Nope – I think they’re all “Crew Sluts” and don’t make a fuss, they just get on the bus…

Good night !
We may all need Ambien soon !

We may all need Ambien Thorazine soon !

free ammo? raffle tickets for a drawing for surplus semiautomatic weapons? job offers from Blackwater? Healthcare?

I wonder about that too. It was so, tense and INTENSE TODAY!

OMG I CAN”T TURN CAPSLOCK IF IT WAS ALL SO HORRIBLE AND I HAVE FORGOTTEN OR IGNORE ANY AND EVERY PUNCTUATION RULE SHIT HOWDY!!!1!!11!

Ditto: Thank you Jane.

You’re a real producer, that’s clear: a producer of democratic voices! Brava!

These protests are about two main things, imo.

Insuring passage of continued protection of big pharma. (See the happy Harry and Louise ads or this mornings NYT article)

And giving big insurance mandates.. forcing as many as the government will afford into their hands under rule of law.

That was the maelstrom it felt like there today, with the thundering herd. Just totally amped and incoherent.

bless you for attending…keep safe,and im still WIDE AWAKE….damn it

Kudos Kelly for getting this.

mebbe a little warm milk with scotch to chase it

Only a matter of time before the lid blows and violence spills out . I just hope it ain’t too bad !

yes… this reallly is a superb diary post… it captures the pulse of this craziness very well.

Sometimes it takes 2 Ambien. You also have to go to bed for it to actually work. Read a book and doze off.

thanks Twain,this is an emotional roller coaster,i pray we win

Thanks for braving the nutters and keeping us posted !

looks like they might be receiving a combination of drugs and money. big pharma certainly has both available. if they get their profits from killing people by not paying valid medical costs, it’s not much of a step to incite violence in the name of profit.

when i saw the beginnings of this with palin/mccain, i was very uneasy.

we are way beyond uneasy now. and the corporate health insurance people are creating it. quantum leap from where we were just a week ago.

“Since I count on the NSA to read blogs, I expect them to forward to the appropriate authorities.”

Yeah. That’ll happen.

EXCELLENT! Keep it up! I am trying to get my children to take me to the Dan Lungren (our rep) town hall meetings later this month. I may be in a wheelchair, but my voice is still working!

I am so glad that one guy kept pressing the senior citizen to say WHAT the lies were — and, rather than state what the lies were, he just kept asking, “You don’t know?” THIS is very powerful. Even the dumbest of the dumb can put together that when people scream STOP LYING, they should be able to tell what lies there are.

You KNOW what’s going to happen. Anyone who has taken Psych 101 or Soc 101 has studied this. The health insurance companies and other groups (neo Nazis, etc.) get these people to go to these forums, but never anticipate the result. Or, they don’t care, because they say it isn’t THEIR fault! (Cough cough FOX “News”) But the violence will spread and get bigger and bigger. Yes, some of these nuts are very mentally ill and violent, but some are just regular stupid people, who would never dream of being violent. BUT — when others start being violent, they do, too. A great example is that weirdo in the clip last week, who was holding up HER birth certificate (encased in plastic) and asking why Obama didn’t show his. She seemed rather normal at first (in her voice — it was obvious she was loony) — but when the crowd started cheering her, she got louder and louder.

looks like they might be receiving a combination of drugs and money. big pharma certainly has both available.

Ding!

Obama’s “strategic” thinking has been over hyped. He’s neither bold or much of a visionary when it comes to health care.

And when and if the shooting starts the pundits and the Republicans, birthers and baggers well respond by saying “no one could have predicted it would come to this.”

That’s a good point. I enjoy saying “you need to support your president in a time of war whether you agree with him or not” to the same idiots who tried it on me a few years back, just to watch their heads explode.

Until Progressives develop a well-organized, well-financed (or decently-financed) PR/Communications/Framing infrastructure, the media victories for conservatives will continue. That has to be a top priority–and it currently isn’t.

Love the reporting by Channel 10 on that Castor event:

‘Andrew Reder, a recent college graduate against Obama’s ideas for health care reform, was among those yelling during the meeting.

…

But Reder, who eventually made his way inside, admits very little was accomplished in discussing the actual issue.

“Somewhere in all the screaming, no one got heard.”‘

It doesn’t seem to have occured to the ‘reporter’ to wonder whether that might have been the clearly-expressed objective.

Al Qaeda take note. Lots of young suicide bomber material at these events.

They’re protesting health care reform (that would help them) and they don’t exactly know why!

This shows the power of millionaire and billionaire propaganda!

They say “We’ve been quiet for too long” – YEAH! They were quiet for EXACTLY EIGHT YEARS DURING THE BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!!!

The mainstream media is OWNED by corporations, it’s not liberal. They speak for the wealthy, corporations, the military, and government ONLY WHEN GOVERNMENT SPEAKS FOR THEM! If government tries to do something progressive, the “liberal media” attacks them, like with health care.

First, the “liberal media” covered the Town Hall protesters WITHOUT disclosing that there was astroturfing going on. Second, when it was exposed, they started interviewing protesters who said “I’m not being paid”.

OF COURSE you can find a protester who isn’t being paid! And the “liberal media” is going to great lengths to interview them and plaster it on the “news”, but they don’t interview the astroturfers. They interview the DUPES OF THE ASTROTURFERS!

And they NEVER cover anti-War protests that are going on RIGHT NOW and for the last 8 years!

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..r_embedded