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	<title>Comments on: Conservativism&#8217;s Next Generation: Young, Dumb, and Full of&#8230;?</title>
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		<title>By: wmd1961</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35904</link>
		<dc:creator>wmd1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reagan did not “double” social security taxes. He did increase them  especially for self employed workers - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FICA withholding&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;br /&gt;
year cap…..employee/employer rate…. self employed rate&lt;br /&gt;
1980 25,900..6.13………………………… 8.1&lt;br /&gt;
1981 29,700..6.65………………………….9.3&lt;br /&gt;
1982 32,400..6.7…………………………..9.35&lt;br /&gt;
1983 35,700..6.7…………………………..9.35&lt;br /&gt;
1984 37,800..7.0…………………………..14.0&lt;br /&gt;
1985 39,600..7.05………………………….14.1&lt;br /&gt;
1986 42,000..7.15………………………….14.3&lt;br /&gt;
1987 43,800..7.15………………………….14.3&lt;br /&gt;
1988 45,000..7.51………………………….15.02 &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;even if we’re only talking about FICA (OASDI/HI) rates on self employed we’re not talking about “doubling” it is a 85% increase, not a doubling. For most workers the increase was 22.5% over Reagan’s term.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should be above hyperbole - a 22.5% increase in FICA taxes is significant. Note that wages were held down because employers had to pay the same increased rates.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reagan did not “double” social security taxes. He did increase them  especially for self employed workers &#8211; <a href="http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html" rel="nofollow">FICA withholding</a> :<br />
year cap…..employee/employer rate…. self employed rate<br />
1980 25,900..6.13………………………… 8.1<br />
1981 29,700..6.65………………………….9.3<br />
1982 32,400..6.7…………………………..9.35<br />
1983 35,700..6.7…………………………..9.35<br />
1984 37,800..7.0…………………………..14.0<br />
1985 39,600..7.05………………………….14.1<br />
1986 42,000..7.15………………………….14.3<br />
1987 43,800..7.15………………………….14.3<br />
1988 45,000..7.51………………………….15.02 </p>
<p>even if we’re only talking about FICA (OASDI/HI) rates on self employed we’re not talking about “doubling” it is a 85% increase, not a doubling. For most workers the increase was 22.5% over Reagan’s term.</p>
<p>We should be above hyperbole &#8211; a 22.5% increase in FICA taxes is significant. Note that wages were held down because employers had to pay the same increased rates.</p>
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		<title>By: researcher</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35903</link>
		<dc:creator>researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;reagan was a pure genius for the upper class&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;give credit where credit is due the got the middle class to line up and vote for him all the while making sure in the near future there would be a two class system&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he took it         to the middle class and most still dont know what hit them&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;kudos to reagan he helped to sink america&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;maybe that will curb their wars for profits and imperialism around the world&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and it needed no help from him&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;americans can do that all on their own&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the new america run by chinese money and printed money&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;lets see how long that wil last :-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but there is  always hope :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reagan was a pure genius for the upper class</p>
<p>give credit where credit is due the got the middle class to line up and vote for him all the while making sure in the near future there would be a two class system</p>
<p>he took it         to the middle class and most still dont know what hit them</p>
<p>kudos to reagan he helped to sink america</p>
<p>maybe that will curb their wars for profits and imperialism around the world</p>
<p>and it needed no help from him</p>
<p>americans can do that all on their own</p>
<p>the new america run by chinese money and printed money</p>
<p>lets see how long that wil last :-)</p>
<p>but there is  always hope :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Robt</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35902</link>
		<dc:creator>Robt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This doesn’t just epose the future conservative propaganda, including the Reagan legacy building that is continuing to this day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have many I work with that are as informed with Reagan as the young cons and listing to anything that might not stroke Reagan as a war hero is unjust librul ranting they refuse to hear.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can someone get the Q-Tip corporation on the phone. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because there is is some money to be made here if they can come up with a Q-Tip that can get the conservative wax out of the cons ears that they could hear.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn’t just epose the future conservative propaganda, including the Reagan legacy building that is continuing to this day.</p>
<p>I have many I work with that are as informed with Reagan as the young cons and listing to anything that might not stroke Reagan as a war hero is unjust librul ranting they refuse to hear.  </p>
<p>Can someone get the Q-Tip corporation on the phone. </p>
<p>Because there is is some money to be made here if they can come up with a Q-Tip that can get the conservative wax out of the cons ears that they could hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Aschbacher</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35880</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Aschbacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mike,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll be completely honest.  When I watched early segments of your work in D.C. for FDL I was a little skeptical.  I didn’t really get approaching congressmen in a T-shirt, and nerves seemed to get in the way of clear questions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, Mike.  You’re one hell of a quick study, because since then I’ve been really, really impressed with your preparation, your professionalism, even temper, and your candor when thrusting yourself into these awkward situations with political opponents, from congressmen on down the line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really excellent work, and I’m very excited to see where you’re able to take FDL as our man on the front-lines.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank You!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I’ll be completely honest.  When I watched early segments of your work in D.C. for FDL I was a little skeptical.  I didn’t really get approaching congressmen in a T-shirt, and nerves seemed to get in the way of clear questions.</p>
<p>Well, Mike.  You’re one hell of a quick study, because since then I’ve been really, really impressed with your preparation, your professionalism, even temper, and your candor when thrusting yourself into these awkward situations with political opponents, from congressmen on down the line.</p>
<p>Really excellent work, and I’m very excited to see where you’re able to take FDL as our man on the front-lines.</p>
<p>Thank You!</p>
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		<title>By: tejanarusa</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35879</link>
		<dc:creator>tejanarusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wonderful, wonderful stuff.  Mike, you are amazingly even-tempered.  I could never do what you do- my repressed rage takes over and logic goes out of my brain.  But this is great; polite, gracious, calm - but slamming bulleyes with every shot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you have any sense that they might be open to actually opening their minds?  Any idea how old they are?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful, wonderful stuff.  Mike, you are amazingly even-tempered.  I could never do what you do- my repressed rage takes over and logic goes out of my brain.  But this is great; polite, gracious, calm &#8211; but slamming bulleyes with every shot.</p>
<p>Did you have any sense that they might be open to actually opening their minds?  Any idea how old they are?</p>
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		<title>By: weekendclimber</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35843</link>
		<dc:creator>weekendclimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the linky. That’s money well spent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the linky. That’s money well spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35837</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.firedoglake.com/page/contribute/donate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here ya go&lt;/a&gt;  tis on the front page on the right hand side in the toolbox&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://secure.firedoglake.com/page/contribute/donate" rel="nofollow">here ya go</a>  tis on the front page on the right hand side in the toolbox</p>
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		<title>By: weekendclimber</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35836</link>
		<dc:creator>weekendclimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I only have one question. Where the hell is the link to donate to FDL????&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only have one question. Where the hell is the link to donate to FDL????</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35835</link>
		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are these guys related to a former miss SC candidate?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are these guys related to a former miss SC candidate?</p>
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		<title>By: MarinCoUSA</title>
		<link>http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/05/conservativisms-next-generation-young-dumb-and-full-of/#comment-35831</link>
		<dc:creator>MarinCoUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is priceless! Keep up the good work MS&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is priceless! Keep up the good work MS</p>
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