Comments on: The August Recess Is Going To Be A Bloody Battle http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/ Politics for liberal newsgeeks Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:00:00 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: jacqrat http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35173 jacqrat Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:23:15 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35173 <p>Sounds more like a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dung_beetle" rel="nofollow">dung beetle</a>, but I digress.</p> Sounds more like a dung beetle, but I digress.

]]> By: thebagofhealthandpolitics http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35159 thebagofhealthandpolitics Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:55:01 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35159 <p>What people can, should, and must do is find those health fairs in their area and take pictures while they’re there. They can talk with their friends and neighbors who are uninsured and contact local reporters about it. </p> <p>The truth is that AHIP and their cronies can’t buy what we have on our side: the truth.</p> What people can, should, and must do is find those health fairs in their area and take pictures while they’re there. They can talk with their friends and neighbors who are uninsured and contact local reporters about it.

The truth is that AHIP and their cronies can’t buy what we have on our side: the truth.

]]> By: snowbird42 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35151 snowbird42 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:20:26 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35151 <p>I thought I saw where someone suggested having clinics( like the one in Wise Va) in prominent places. Maybe the front of the White House.</p> I thought I saw where someone suggested having clinics( like the one in Wise Va) in prominent places. Maybe the front of the White House.

]]> By: klynn http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35150 klynn Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:50:48 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35150 <p>slinker, (waaaay EPU’d)</p> <p>There is no possible way progressives would still consider staying in DC over the recess to continue working?<br /></p><blockquote> <p>That’s 57 names now out in the public, and these names are now targets for the murder-by-spreadsheet industry to aim their campaign efforts at during recess. It’s why we at Firedoglake need you guys more than ever to make sure that these 57 progressives stand firm in their opposition to any legislation that comes out of the conference process that does not contain a strong, robust public option. </p></blockquote> <p>Can you spell out what the pressure was specifically that ended their commitment to stay in DC.? Just the specifics of the threat would shed some light, (what was the specific WH pressure?).</p> slinker, (waaaay EPU’d)

There is no possible way progressives would still consider staying in DC over the recess to continue working?

That’s 57 names now out in the public, and these names are now targets for the murder-by-spreadsheet industry to aim their campaign efforts at during recess. It’s why we at Firedoglake need you guys more than ever to make sure that these 57 progressives stand firm in their opposition to any legislation that comes out of the conference process that does not contain a strong, robust public option.

Can you spell out what the pressure was specifically that ended their commitment to stay in DC.? Just the specifics of the threat would shed some light, (what was the specific WH pressure?).

]]> By: TomWells http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35148 TomWells Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:19:51 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35148 <p>Good to see you here, slink.</p> <p>You, Evve, Jane and others have been trieless workers on this!</p> Good to see you here, slink.

You, Evve, Jane and others have been trieless workers on this!

]]> By: Prairie Sunshine http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35145 Prairie Sunshine Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:03:26 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35145 <p>Baucus is making decisions that will affect all of us, he can bloody well hear from all of us.</p> Baucus is making decisions that will affect all of us, he can bloody well hear from all of us.

]]> By: torgo2009 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35137 torgo2009 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:37:07 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35137 <p>Good.<br /> I don’t live in the district of any of the 57 but my office is in Andre Carson’s district. I’ll get to work.</p> Good.
I don’t live in the district of any of the 57 but my office is in Andre Carson’s district. I’ll get to work.

]]> By: owlperson http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35136 owlperson Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:34:18 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35136 <p>Just like to check in once in a while to see how my friends in the “Big Tent” party are getting along —You must be careful now. You seem a little edgy.</p> Just like to check in once in a while to see how my friends in the “Big Tent” party are getting along —You must be careful now. You seem a little edgy.

]]> By: thanbo http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35135 thanbo Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:30:50 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35135 <p>Yeah, well, they were looking for an excuse to take the vacation option. 7 guys gave it to them.</p> <p>And this morning’s NY Times explains it - the Freshmen Democrats were afraid for their seats in formerly Republican districts. Don’t these people understand why they were elected? It was a backlash against the Republicans, against “business as usual”. If they tack to the right, they’re just going to alienate the people who elected them. Many of whom would, I’m sure, be thrilled to have a public option (most of the Republicans in the NY delegation come from upstate, which is perpetually plagued by high unemployment and underemployment).</p> <p>If they really want to hold onto their seats, they need to “grow a pair”, as Colbert might say, and do what they were sent to Washington to do: bring compassion back to Washington, bring responsible spending back to Washington, fix healthcare, end the wars, etc.</p> Yeah, well, they were looking for an excuse to take the vacation option. 7 guys gave it to them.

And this morning’s NY Times explains it – the Freshmen Democrats were afraid for their seats in formerly Republican districts. Don’t these people understand why they were elected? It was a backlash against the Republicans, against “business as usual”. If they tack to the right, they’re just going to alienate the people who elected them. Many of whom would, I’m sure, be thrilled to have a public option (most of the Republicans in the NY delegation come from upstate, which is perpetually plagued by high unemployment and underemployment).

If they really want to hold onto their seats, they need to “grow a pair”, as Colbert might say, and do what they were sent to Washington to do: bring compassion back to Washington, bring responsible spending back to Washington, fix healthcare, end the wars, etc.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35130 cinnamonape Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:20:58 +0000 http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/the-august-recess-is-going-to-be-a-bloody-battle/#comment-35130 <p>I agree, if these people are going to stage astroturf events/protests we need to be out with pictures of real victims of the insurance industry. People who have died or lost loved ones because they were cut off, or couldn’t afford COBRA. People showing he surgical scars from deferred treatments by HMO’s. What will happen when the foyers of these peoples offices start to fill up with people in wheelchairs, with disabled children, folks who work in those firms with “under $500K in payrolls” (i.e two owners at $100K each with 20 workers at $15K).</p> <p>My own tale is when I was a student in California I was in a bike accident in which I broke both arms on a rural road. I walked two hundred yards to a paved road and eventually flagged down a car with some good Samaritans who saw I was clearly in distress. Both my lower arms were akimbo. The drove me to the local General hospital where, in the emergency room was asked about insurance. I said I was covered by the local Universities “student insurance” at which time the staff stopped the gurney, asked me to hop off, and told me “you need to go to the campus hospital”. They wouldn’t even give me a sling to support my arms. </p> <p>Fortunately the good Samaritans were still there and drove me the 2 miles to the campus where staff there stabilized me, and got me ready for surgery. The surgeon shows up about twenty minutes later looking uite pissed off. He tells me that he’s sorry to be late but he was called to an emergency at another hospital for a victim with two broken arms. Yep…same doc on call at two local hospitals, and the first never bothered to call him back to tell him that I had been “released” to the other one, and to go there.</p> I agree, if these people are going to stage astroturf events/protests we need to be out with pictures of real victims of the insurance industry. People who have died or lost loved ones because they were cut off, or couldn’t afford COBRA. People showing he surgical scars from deferred treatments by HMO’s. What will happen when the foyers of these peoples offices start to fill up with people in wheelchairs, with disabled children, folks who work in those firms with “under $500K in payrolls” (i.e two owners at $100K each with 20 workers at $15K).

My own tale is when I was a student in California I was in a bike accident in which I broke both arms on a rural road. I walked two hundred yards to a paved road and eventually flagged down a car with some good Samaritans who saw I was clearly in distress. Both my lower arms were akimbo. The drove me to the local General hospital where, in the emergency room was asked about insurance. I said I was covered by the local Universities “student insurance” at which time the staff stopped the gurney, asked me to hop off, and told me “you need to go to the campus hospital”. They wouldn’t even give me a sling to support my arms.

Fortunately the good Samaritans were still there and drove me the 2 miles to the campus where staff there stabilized me, and got me ready for surgery. The surgeon shows up about twenty minutes later looking uite pissed off. He tells me that he’s sorry to be late but he was called to an emergency at another hospital for a victim with two broken arms. Yep…same doc on call at two local hospitals, and the first never bothered to call him back to tell him that I had been “released” to the other one, and to go there.

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