WTF were the Dems thinking? Are they really this stupid? Yes, Virginia, the Dems are that stupid.

I think it’s important to remember why the Democrats are prizing bipartisanship so highly. Their behavior is coming from their fear of doing anything substantive on their own. If health care reform was finally passed, and failed, it would be blamed on the Democrats and they’d theoretically pay in the next election.

(2) If they closed Guantanamo, and something bad happened as a result, it would/could/might be blamed on the Democrats and they’d theoretically pay in the next election.

(3) If they followed through on their many promises and pulled US troops from Iraq, and something went wrongit would/could/might be blamed on the Democrats and they’d theoretically pay in the next election.

(4) If they stopped wiretapping our phones and restored our constitutional guarantees–and something bad happened (like a terrorist attack), it would/could/might be blamed on the Democrats and they’d theoretically pay in the next election.

The GOP is acting in a totally virulent way, with absolutely no regard for what is good governmental policy. But the Democrats are acting–as a party–in an equally horrible manner. Taken together, they form two sides of a particularly ugly, corroded and dysfunctional coin.

This is the guy who is going to bring us health care reform? Why was Enzi given so much power? Why were 3 GOP Senators (Enzi, Grassley, and Snowe) working on a bill when the Dems have 60 votes? Why destroy the entire bill just for 3 GOP Senators, two of which never had any intention of voting for it?

WTF were the Dems thinking? Are they really this stupid? Yes, Virginia, the Dems are that stupid.

Baucus is as stupid, corrupt, and as arrogant as any of them. It’s hilarious how Enzi and Grassley made him look like a total idiot (which Baucus was doing quite well on his own with his ridiculous “bipartisan” fetish).

Or how about Criminal Prison Protection Insurance. If you get mugged, but you don’t have prison protection insurance, your mugger stays on the outside. Hey, you have no-one to blame but yourself! You should have paid premiums. But if you have insurance – yipee he’s sent down! But now you can’t get insured again because you have a pre-existing sentence. Just feel lucky you were too dazed to fight back, cos your actions would have fallen under the contributory negligence exclusion, and he’d have been out on the street.

But wait you didn’t opt for additional parole coverage, so when he’s out, no one’s going to keep an eye on him.

“Don’t fall for the propoganda, don’t react to it, don’t acknowledge it other than to counter it . . . we have to message ourselves in other ways . . . “

Don’t believe I “jumped the shark” ( ridiculous idiom!… and don’t call me hoss!

I thought I made clear my comment was about seeing people on TV.

And my thoughts are about ALL people, who DO see this stuff on TV, and believe.

You jumped the shark there, hoss . . . .

I also base this statement on the fact that a dkos poster was talking to her elederly mom about the public option and her mother was against it “because it will be run by the governemtn and is too expensive.”

This is what middle America thinks… I have my frame of reference, you have yours. People are too easily swayed by the big Pharma and insurance ads.

The central fact of the health care debate is that there is essentially no agreement on anything — values, philosophy, vision of how the world works — between the two sides. Progressives want universal coverage, and see an expanded government role as essential to getting there. Conservatives believe, in the face of all evidence, that free markets are the answer.

And Enzi is very conservative. According to Vote View, my site for left-right rankings, Enzi was the 8th most conservative Senator in the last Congress — almost in the same league as Inhofe or DeMint.