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	<title>Comments on: Health Care Update: 57 House Progressives Won’t Vote for Blue Dog Compromise</title>
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		<title>By: elisathon</title>
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		<dc:creator>elisathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I called Rep. Carolyn Maloney’s (D-NY 14) DC office, asked why Maloney, as a member of the Progressive Caucus who has (only recently) committed to voting against any health care bill that doesn’t have a public plan (nationwide, on day 1, &amp; accountable to Congress &amp; the voters,  had not signed the letter.&lt;br /&gt;
The man answering the phones - several ringing phones in the background- offered to take a message….  and said that he ’hadn’t heard of any (official) comment (from Maloney or staff) on that’ (issue) …&lt;br /&gt;
I asked if he knew which letter I was referring to?&lt;br /&gt;
Him: ’I’m not involved with that… I haven’t really heard anything other than the calls’ (calls to Maloney’s offices)&lt;br /&gt;
Me: Is there anyone there who is involved with it?’&lt;br /&gt;
Him: There’s an office mtg right now.&lt;br /&gt;
So, it seem they have received a noticeable number of calls on this issues, &amp; I’ll be calling back, and let you know if I get anywhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called Rep. Carolyn Maloney’s (D-NY 14) DC office, asked why Maloney, as a member of the Progressive Caucus who has (only recently) committed to voting against any health care bill that doesn’t have a public plan (nationwide, on day 1, &amp; accountable to Congress &amp; the voters,  had not signed the letter.<br />
The man answering the phones &#8211; several ringing phones in the background- offered to take a message….  and said that he ’hadn’t heard of any (official) comment (from Maloney or staff) on that’ (issue) …<br />
I asked if he knew which letter I was referring to?<br />
Him: ’I’m not involved with that… I haven’t really heard anything other than the calls’ (calls to Maloney’s offices)<br />
Me: Is there anyone there who is involved with it?’<br />
Him: There’s an office mtg right now.<br />
So, it seem they have received a noticeable number of calls on this issues, &amp; I’ll be calling back, and let you know if I get anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: brandane</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PLEASE STOP DRINKING THE KOOLAIDE, it kills whatever braincells you have acquired. As usual when I see this kind of diatribe I refuse to even grace it with an answer, but , you came on this site looking for an arguement, so I guess you will get one. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sure most of the Canadian citizenry will not trade their health system for yours and mine. I personally have friends living in Windsor Ontario who have received excellent health care for years and have had major heart surgery, brain surgery and any other care they needed without any undue waiting period. As a Ford Motor Co. retiree I used to enjoy excellent Health care but those benefits have been deleted for the most part. If you are talking about waiting periods try to get an MRI or Petscan within a few days, the normal waiting period is three to five weeks uless you are a sports figure or an extreme emergency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In closing I always try to remember what my mother espoused, “ignorance is bliss, but there is nothing you can do with stupid”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE STOP DRINKING THE KOOLAIDE, it kills whatever braincells you have acquired. As usual when I see this kind of diatribe I refuse to even grace it with an answer, but , you came on this site looking for an arguement, so I guess you will get one. </p>
<p>I am sure most of the Canadian citizenry will not trade their health system for yours and mine. I personally have friends living in Windsor Ontario who have received excellent health care for years and have had major heart surgery, brain surgery and any other care they needed without any undue waiting period. As a Ford Motor Co. retiree I used to enjoy excellent Health care but those benefits have been deleted for the most part. If you are talking about waiting periods try to get an MRI or Petscan within a few days, the normal waiting period is three to five weeks uless you are a sports figure or an extreme emergency.</p>
<p>In closing I always try to remember what my mother espoused, “ignorance is bliss, but there is nothing you can do with stupid”.</p>
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		<title>By: TPAZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TPAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Does anyone have handy the phone numbers to the Sunday talk shows: This Week; MTP; Face the Nation; CNN; MSNBC? We may as well rattle the cages of media &lt;strong&gt;after&lt;/strong&gt; the H.R. 676 vote.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to push these blue dogs off of the talk shows and replace them with liberals and progressives.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have handy the phone numbers to the Sunday talk shows: This Week; MTP; Face the Nation; CNN; MSNBC? We may as well rattle the cages of media <strong>after</strong> the H.R. 676 vote.</p>
<p>We need to push these blue dogs off of the talk shows and replace them with liberals and progressives.</p>
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		<title>By: TPAZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TPAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning everyone. What a great day for a revolution! Shall we begin?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning everyone. What a great day for a revolution! Shall we begin?</p>
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		<title>By: RepJustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>RepJustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where are the New York Carolyns?? Maloney and McCarthy? Would also like to see Jim Moran and Gerry Connelly on here too..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the New York Carolyns?? Maloney and McCarthy? Would also like to see Jim Moran and Gerry Connelly on here too..</p>
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		<title>By: levotb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>levotb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Almost every one of these so-called “Progressives” (a euphemism for Socialists and Communists) is an Open Borders, pro-illegal alien whack job. However, in this one tally, they are correct in defying Obamacare. However, the reason they oppose the Blue Dogs agreement with leadership is because they know that the Blue Dogs will not allow any loophole–IE non-enforcement of “only citizens are eligible for coverage”–or the Blue Dogs will bolt. The bottome line? These wonderful “Progressives” want this medical coverage for the 30 to 40 million illegal aliens here. They are about as un-American in foisting this on U.S. taxpayers as it gets. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do not favor ANY agreement between the Blue Dogs and Pelosi. It means “capitulation”. But for now, I’m glad the Progressives are opposing this. The nation cannot afford any kind of Socialized medicine. The Fed. Govt. has no business being in the medical profession–none! But beyond all this, the Canadian Socialized health care system–when patients often have to wait months for operations and as a result die–is absolutely unacceptable. The Socialists don’t value human life, conservatives understand that. But the blatant attempt by the pro-illegal alien leftists in the House to keep any amendment like the Deal Amendment from passing is disgraceful and shameful. Rep. Deal’s Amendment was simple–the Plan only would apply to citizens, not Border jumpers, visa overstayers and gang bangers!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost every one of these so-called “Progressives” (a euphemism for Socialists and Communists) is an Open Borders, pro-illegal alien whack job. However, in this one tally, they are correct in defying Obamacare. However, the reason they oppose the Blue Dogs agreement with leadership is because they know that the Blue Dogs will not allow any loophole–IE non-enforcement of “only citizens are eligible for coverage”–or the Blue Dogs will bolt. The bottome line? These wonderful “Progressives” want this medical coverage for the 30 to 40 million illegal aliens here. They are about as un-American in foisting this on U.S. taxpayers as it gets. </p>
<p>I do not favor ANY agreement between the Blue Dogs and Pelosi. It means “capitulation”. But for now, I’m glad the Progressives are opposing this. The nation cannot afford any kind of Socialized medicine. The Fed. Govt. has no business being in the medical profession–none! But beyond all this, the Canadian Socialized health care system–when patients often have to wait months for operations and as a result die–is absolutely unacceptable. The Socialists don’t value human life, conservatives understand that. But the blatant attempt by the pro-illegal alien leftists in the House to keep any amendment like the Deal Amendment from passing is disgraceful and shameful. Rep. Deal’s Amendment was simple–the Plan only would apply to citizens, not Border jumpers, visa overstayers and gang bangers!</p>
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		<title>By: nrafter530</title>
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		<dc:creator>nrafter530</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lipinski and Bean are on our side on this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lipinski and Bean are on our side on this.</p>
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		<title>By: karendotcom</title>
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		<dc:creator>karendotcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;… and somewhere in Whoville, the dem’s cajones grew 3 sizes that day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best freaking news I have heard in months.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>… and somewhere in Whoville, the dem’s cajones grew 3 sizes that day.</p>
<p>Best freaking news I have heard in months.</p>
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		<title>By: nandssmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>nandssmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where’s Defazio (OR)?  He despises the insurance companies.  I’ll give his office a call tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where’s Defazio (OR)?  He despises the insurance companies.  I’ll give his office a call tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where’s Chris VanHollen?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And where’s Neil Abercrombie [HI-1]?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where’s Chris VanHollen?</p>
<p>And where’s Neil Abercrombie [HI-1]?</p>
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