WATSON: Is the President and Rahm Emanuel — former member of the House — are they treading too lightly here, are they not bringing out the big stick against some of those Blue Dog Democrats and saying "we’ve got a once in a four-decade opportunity to get this passed, everyone knows how easy it is for momentum to dissipate, you guys have to get on board and we’ve got to go forward and make sure that everyone has better health care, is covered, and hopefully better quality of outcome?
WATERS: Well that may be difficult for Rahm Emanuel, because don’t forget — he recruited most of them. As when he was over in the Congress, in the leadership, Rahm Emanuel recruited more conservative members and based on some of the information I’m getting, they told them that they could vote the way they wanted to vote, that they would not interfere with what was considered their philosophy about some of these things. So, now the chickens have come home to roost.
Of course they did. Because Rahm believes what the Blue Dogs believe. What’s to interfere with? And let’s remember — Rahm beat the shit out of progressives on the supplemental/IMF and on Waxman-Markey. It’s not like he has a "hands off" policy.
WATSON: Is it time then for some of the progressives Democrats such as yourself, who didn’t make those same promises and didn’t do recruitment, to go very public in your demands that either these folks step up or that some primary challenges be run against them similar to what happened in Connecticut against Joe Lieberman in 2006?
WATERS: Well the thing about it is, you can’t make empty threats of course. As I’m talking to you today, and trying to be very honest about the Blue Dogs, who they are how they got there, which is a step beyond what we would normally do, I intend certainly to continue to bring clarity to what is going on. I will be meeting with the progressives and Barbara Lee and the Black Caucus and the Tricaucus to talk about what we do.
But many of these Blue Dogs represent districts that have strong pockets of poverty and minorities and they’re not representing them with this approach that they’re taking. And so I don’t know whether or not there will be people running against them. Certainly we’re not organized to run anybody against anybody, that’s not normally what’s done. But there may be people out there listening and observing all of this who may get motivated based on what they’re seeing, and throw their hat into the ring.
Waters says that the progressives in the House will revolt if the Senate passes a bill without a strong public plan (thank you Maxine, that’s all we’re asking):
KERY ELEVELD: There are reports out of the Senate Finance Committee today that they may be dropping the public option in their negotiations. Do you think that’s going to sell in the House?
WATERS: No. As a matter of fact, that’s a kill for sure for the progressives. For the majority, I think, of our members a public option is a compromise – we wanted single payer as you know, and we backed off because they said that was going to be impossible to do. Again they brought up the more conservative elements, etc. etc., and so we will not support any bill that does not have a public option in it.
Watson and Waters are right on target. As we’ve said from the start of the Public Plan whip count effort:
We don’t have much influence over the Blue Dogs. The White House does. If you make failure the price of giving up on a public plan, Rahm works for you.
The only thing we can really do is help build a progressive roadblock, and make Rahm twist Blue Dog arms if he wants to pass health care. That’s it. That’s the end game.
Thanks to Rep. Waters for once again being the one brave enough to talk openly about what’s going on.
It’s why Maxine Waters is one of our Health Care Heroes.




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Looks like the Blue Dogs are giving Rahm some fleas.
Sherrod Brown: We WILL have a public option:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..lic-option
Maxine is the best, bar none.
Thank you, Maxine Waters. You are one of the few members of Congress who truly represents the people and one of the few who tells the truth.
I won’t forget the work Maxine Waters has done not only on health care but also on mortgage foreclosures, and many other things.
If anyone is looking for a profile of political courage, look no further than to Maxine Waters.
Maxine made a special effort here, I think, to call out the Blue Dogs and their “master,” Rahm. With today’s other news that Barney Frank has taken the public plan pledge, I wonder if the progressives are actually making their play.
yup, so by extension rahm is going obama cover to do what he wanted all along.
Rahm recruited FAKE DEMOCRATS. THAT is the headline. Rahm is poison.
Forget the Blue Dogs — the pressure has to be put on Obama and the White House, and the pressure has to be in the language they (especially Rahm) can understand: sign a bill that includes a real Public Option, or Obama gets no votes, no money, no boots on the ground in 2012. They need to be electorally threatened and they need it NOW.
At the AARP meeting, Obama twice talked about a public option, which is more than he’s done in a week — but I still want him to use the V word in relation to any non-public-option (i.e. the Baucus) plan. Only then will I relax for a tiny while.
So glad that Maxine firmly tied the Blue Dogs to Rahm. He has done this president a lot of harm by his recruiting of actual Republicans. I detest him and want him out of WH. He’s a mole for the DLC.
The master of the universe, David Rockefeller, instructs his minions to keep the country evenly divided by any mechanism necessary, and to present the impression that literally EVERYTHING is political and divisive, and voila, his controlled media delivers.
Liberals thought they won the White House and Congress. It was clearly just a ruse. Reveal the conspiracy for what it is.
He’s a mole alright, though on a broader and more global scale than you imagine.
Ditto that. Maxine is amazing.
It seems the best we can hope for is a public plan that starts in a few years, if I understand correctly what Barney Frank was saying, and if that continues to be an acceptable pledge to us. Was the Barney Frank parsing of day one always implicit in the pledge, or is that a new development?
if only.
as Maxine Waters says:
it is axiomatic in certain corners of the Progressive Blogosphere that Democrats must be supported, no matter what.
If there is a primary against Arlen Specter (D-Pa.), and the challenger loses, as they almost always do, then Pennsylvania Progressives for Snarlin’ Arlen it will be, after all, he is the Least Worst!
until this co-dependence changes, why on earth should venal Democratic incumbents pay any attention to the complaints coming from the grassroots?
Oh well…maybe it’s best that the poor and middle class go without health care. Yeah right..the worst is that this could be a short ride for our (hero?) President Obama, who I supported with conscience and cash like millions of others. If Obama fails on this Progressive issue he will lose major Dem support. He really doesn’t seem in favor of his own ‘public option’. funny that.
Obama didn’t pick Rahm Emanuel because he disagreed with him. Neither of them is inclined to put pressure on the Blue Dogs for the same reason. We have a Blue Dog President and a Blue Dog Administration. Blue Dogs prefer to work with Republicans over progressives, and guess what? Isn’t this just what Obama does as well? He reaches out to Republicans and snubs progressives.
Look at where we are. Single payer has been shut out completely. The White House brought up a public option but still hasn’t said what that option would contain and has delayed its implementation until 2013. This is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Who’s really to say that the Blue Dogs aren’t doing what the Administration wants them to and providing an excuse either to kill or neuter the public option?
If you just pay attention to what Obama is doing, not what he is saying, this certainly looks to be the case.
Ever notice all these Blue Dogs are from small states? Easier for insurance companies to fund elections there.
A new petition from Senators Leahy, Durbin and Schumer
http://citizensforapublicoption.com/
It’s easy for Maxine to criticize. She’s got a job for life.
Um, most progressives in the blogosphere are the hardest-core progressives I know, and your analysis is a little off. Take Arlen — the mere threat of a progressive challenger is making him fly on the straighter and narrower than he was when he first flipped. And that was done when the blogosphere were the only people demanding that someone in the Democratic Party ignore the calls of the leadership and run as an opponent to Arlen.
So you’re wrong. Electoral danger works. In fact, it’s often the only thing that does for Blue Dogs or any other political dogs.
Matt Tabibi was an invited guest here on FDL earlier today, therefore it ought to be safe to offer a link to what he has to say on the whole health care kabuki act:
http://trueslant.com/matttaibb…..bill-dies/
for added dark irony, there’s Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of the netroots urging the inclusion of a crippled ‘public option’ to make the sham a more convincing sham!
as Rep Waters said:
how about this – ask your Congresspeople to do the right thing for once and get behind single payer and you’ll get behind them solidly against the lobbyists, or else you’ll withdraw support because its pointless to vote for people who work against your interests.
never been tried, I know, but some causes are worth it.
President Obama has announced three bedrock requirements for real health care reform:
Reduce Costs — Rising health care costs are crushing the budgets of governments, businesses, individuals and families and they must be brought under control
Guarantee Choice — Every American must have the freedom to choose their plan and doctor – including the choice of a public insurance option
Ensure Quality Care for All — All Americans must have quality and affordable health care.
this is what we who support president obama and health care reform with a public option have pledged; anything less will be futile; and like the 2003 medicare modernization act, will only benefit the health care industry and continue their huge profits at america’s and american’s expense.
in wanting our pledge and our support, organizing for america has listed these “bedrock principles.” we expect all of president obama’s administration and democrats to do also. blue tics and republicans can vote no, but must then publically list all campaign donations made to them by the health care industry.
not wanting the “perfect to be the enemy of the good,” does mean anything less than health care reform with a public option.
Single Payer Plan needs to be where we get at some point within next 5 years being anything less is going to fall short of true cost control/reduction/containment and real healthcare access and provision.
This so called “public option” is not going to solve the deep seated lack of primary healthcare being made available to all Americans being the private health insurers will strangle it as best can as soon they can.
The Blue Dog Dems are agents of misdirection here. President Obama is the one who needs to understand this is his place in history he is either going to score or not score on. President Obama has been slacking aplenty on dealing with Bush/Cheney legacy matters as it is and to fail on doing true American healthcare reform should haunt him mightily in 2012.
Rahm is Barack’s SOB and Barack has no one to blame here but Barack Obama if Rahm fails to bark at and bite the right people.
This BS that Single Payer Plan was too long a reach is just that–BS.
This so called “public option” is being diluted anyway so why not start at the real begin line with SPP in first place?
Ultimately WashingtonDC needs to be weaned off it’s rampant affair with American militarism–stop dicking around the planet with 700 plus military bases and all the meddling they enable. Americans cannot afford it. Other lands and peoples cannot afford American rabid meddling and killing sprees.
This BS about government run healthcare being “bad” flys directly in face of decades of accomplished outcome and record with both Medicare and the VA.
Barack Obama needs to get straight/fly right and get his SOB Rahm in line or he should count on being a one term American President.
Screw the Blue Dogs–they are just the misdirection agents–this Obama WH needs to get Democratic Party on and in line.
The stench of misdirection is plenty strong President Obama–walk your talk–try doing some profile in courage rather than profile in slack jack–why the hell did you want the WH again?
Harry Reid may just lose his Majority Leader status in 2010. Even Pelosi may lose her speakership. Ofcourse, then Emanuel, Axelrod and Plouffe will be on teevee complaining about how the Dems went wayyyyyyy too the left and they need to go back to the “center” and how the progressives need to shut up. Hey, Barry, how’s that kissing up to Holy Joe working out for you? And Rahm my man, how that coddling the Blue Dogs working out for ya?
you mean millionaire investment banker, rahm emanuel is bad for democrats? go figure. obama seems to like him.
We need to be thankful someone was available to pick up the slack while the actual Republican Party was running around disoragnized, confused and unable to implement their agenda themselves.
Warrantless Wiretapping-check! Gtmo closing-check! War Crimes investigations-check! Out of Iraq -check! Special favors to Wall Street -check!
Next time someone tells you America has two Political Parties, demand a recount!
Tin foil hat fits nice I see.
what are the odds rahm went rogue on this, without consulting obama? uh-huh.
Care to expand? History would seem to support Hugh. I’d be interested in your case to the contrary.
Why isn’t there someone out there with a camera cornering Blue Dogs? I would do it but I’m in Australia!
I hadn’t heard about this—you go,Maxine!
Waters Introduces Bill That Would Ban All Credit-Default Swaps
By Dawn Kopecki and Alan Bjerga
July 10 (Bloomberg) — Representative Maxine Waters introduced legislation to ban all credit-default swaps, the financial instruments blamed in helping to take down American International Group Inc.
“Credit-default swaps are one of many contributing factors to the current economic crisis,” Waters, a California Democrat, said in a statement released at a hearing today on the Obama administration’s plan to rein in the $592 trillion industry. “Preventing all credit-default swaps is essential to bringing stability to the market and preventing a similar crisis in the future.”
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is testifying before a joint hearing of the House Financial Services and Agriculture committees. The administration’s plan doesn’t call for an outright ban on credit default swaps.
To contact the reporter on this story: Dawn Kopecki in Washington at dkopecki@bloomberg.net.
Spare the whip and spoil the dog?
Its all well and good to put the blame on Rahm Emanuel (or Geithner or Summers or whomever..) but ultimately you must remember President Obama placed these people in those positions…If I remember correctly, Obama even tried to stick a few more “corporate” loving moderates in other positions..like Daschle…he tried to appoint right-winger Judd Gregg to the Secretary of Commerce position….this is not Obama’s “reaching out” to the other side…its his true stripe..he is just another moderate (Blue-Dog, a “corporate lapdog” Democrat)..like Bill Clinton…if he really wanted true Health Care reform he would take his good buddy Rahm and his blue-dog coalition to the wood-shed..but this way if he “looses” (remember, Obama promised Universal Health Care, it was the part of the Democrats party platform when they were running for office), but if he can’t deliver his campaign promises (even with the huge majority we were talked into giving him, (because we wanted Universal Health Care!!) Obama thinks we won’t hold him responsible for the loss, (the lie), he thinks we will blame the Blue-Dogs for the “failure to provide”..he won’t be blamed, and will be voted back in come next election in 2012….the people never learn..they want a progressive Democrat like Dennis Kucinich or even John Edwards..but they are fooled into electing “centrist Demo-plubs” by the corporate media’s propaganda every time….
I disagree totally, the same folks who allowed us to vote Obama into the WH put Rahm Emanuel, Geithner and Summers on
theirhis staff.Is there hope?
Not without some very big surprises.