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	<title>Comments on: Blue Dogs and Republicans Agree:  No Health Care Vote Before Recess</title>
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		<title>By: brendanscalling</title>
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		<dc:creator>brendanscalling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fattah won’t take the pledge either.  he’s coasted for years.&lt;br /&gt;
when I called (again) about the pledge, his staff flipped out on me and claimed i was berating them incessantly, every day every week.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s not true: what they really object to is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/Chaka-49392962.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article in the Philadelphia Weekly&lt;/a&gt;, which reached literally tens of thousands of Fattah’s constituents, and which ended with “And while his website lists a number of health-related priorities, neither single-payer health care or even a public option is mentioned. You can send a message to the Congressman: 202,225.4001 is his DC number. Tell him I told you to call.” This forced them to thoroughly update their website on health care reform.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yesterday they told me “that pledge you want chaka fattah to take is meaningless”, which is why i called them back this morning to ask “if the pledge is meaningless, why did Barney Frank just send out a letter taking that same pledge?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they didn’t like that very much either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fattah won’t take the pledge either.  he’s coasted for years.<br />
when I called (again) about the pledge, his staff flipped out on me and claimed i was berating them incessantly, every day every week.  </p>
<p>That’s not true: what they really object to is <a href="http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/Chaka-49392962.html" rel="nofollow">this article in the Philadelphia Weekly</a>, which reached literally tens of thousands of Fattah’s constituents, and which ended with “And while his website lists a number of health-related priorities, neither single-payer health care or even a public option is mentioned. You can send a message to the Congressman: 202,225.4001 is his DC number. Tell him I told you to call.” This forced them to thoroughly update their website on health care reform.</p>
<p>yesterday they told me “that pledge you want chaka fattah to take is meaningless”, which is why i called them back this morning to ask “if the pledge is meaningless, why did Barney Frank just send out a letter taking that same pledge?”</p>
<p>they didn’t like that very much either.</p>
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		<title>By: AngelsAwake</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngelsAwake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it’s time that we, as progressives, realize that most of our political leaders are exactly the same sort of terrible individuals that run the conservatives, only they happen to spout off our pabulum instead of the other guy’s. It’s high time we cleaned house.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it’s time that we, as progressives, realize that most of our political leaders are exactly the same sort of terrible individuals that run the conservatives, only they happen to spout off our pabulum instead of the other guy’s. It’s high time we cleaned house.</p>
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		<title>By: michtom</title>
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		<dc:creator>michtom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“this is a massive game of chicken between moderates and liberals.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is well past time to stop referring to these sleazebags as moderates or centrists. They are neo-cons with, possibly, one or two issues that are not disgusting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama (or Obushma) is a complete running-dog lackey of the ruling class: gives all the money to the banksters and takes jobs and factories away from the working class; attacks LGBTs; expands war; proposes preventive detention while covering for the torture regime he succeeded; creates a “health” care plan that requires little bargaining by the right because &lt;strong&gt;everything&lt;/strong&gt; was given away going in; continues the Dems’ definition of bipartisanship: &lt;em&gt;noun, unconditional surrender.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Accountability Project&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is the only thing that will have any effect on the reactionary Dems &lt;strong&gt;or&lt;/strong&gt; the so-called progressive Dems.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“this is a massive game of chicken between moderates and liberals.”</em></p>
<p>It is well past time to stop referring to these sleazebags as moderates or centrists. They are neo-cons with, possibly, one or two issues that are not disgusting.</p>
<p>Obama (or Obushma) is a complete running-dog lackey of the ruling class: gives all the money to the banksters and takes jobs and factories away from the working class; attacks LGBTs; expands war; proposes preventive detention while covering for the torture regime he succeeded; creates a “health” care plan that requires little bargaining by the right because <strong>everything</strong> was given away going in; continues the Dems’ definition of bipartisanship: <em>noun, unconditional surrender.</em></p>
<p><strong><em>The Accountability Project</em></strong> is the only thing that will have any effect on the reactionary Dems <strong>or</strong> the so-called progressive Dems.</p>
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		<title>By: dday</title>
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		<dc:creator>dday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In that same post I said that I’d expect primary challenges to House members in progressive districts if they don’t get a public option through.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that same post I said that I’d expect primary challenges to House members in progressive districts if they don’t get a public option through.</p>
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		<title>By: shootthatarrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shootthatarrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Going back to the Bill Clinton WH years shows lots of evidence of the Democratic Party falling down and laying down for the count.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After Newt Gingrich led the Congressional GOPers to several victories and succeeded in setting Congressional agenda for much of the 1990’s and after his self inflicted fall from grace Tom Delay ‘The Hammer’ surely knew how to shake the money trees and herd cats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats? Opposition party much? Hummmm….no.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Along comes the all hat/no cattle cowboy from Texas in 2000 who proceeds to gore Al Gore all but good with a election snatch done in daylight.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats in Congress have exhibited little in way of Gingrich or Delay dogged political bone gnawing. Bush and Cheney started off 2001 with lots of sabre rattling over China. Along came 9/11/2001 and China suddenly was off the Bush/Cheney WH menu and soon Iraq(even though most 9/11 perps were from Saudi Arabia) was in the Bush/Cheney WH crosshairs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The rest of the story is known well enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats in Congress as opposition party? Sound of crickets……..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So now after 2006 elections the DEMs gained…after 2008 elections they took over both parts of Congress and took back the WH as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So now here in the summer of 2009 this Democratic Party cannot give us a reset version of the VA,Medicare and Social Security–call it Universal Single Payer HealthCare–and get it moved into place and done. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why is this so?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back to the Bill Clinton WH years shows lots of evidence of the Democratic Party falling down and laying down for the count.</p>
<p>After Newt Gingrich led the Congressional GOPers to several victories and succeeded in setting Congressional agenda for much of the 1990’s and after his self inflicted fall from grace Tom Delay ‘The Hammer’ surely knew how to shake the money trees and herd cats.</p>
<p>The Democrats? Opposition party much? Hummmm….no.</p>
<p>Along comes the all hat/no cattle cowboy from Texas in 2000 who proceeds to gore Al Gore all but good with a election snatch done in daylight.</p>
<p>The Democrats in Congress have exhibited little in way of Gingrich or Delay dogged political bone gnawing. Bush and Cheney started off 2001 with lots of sabre rattling over China. Along came 9/11/2001 and China suddenly was off the Bush/Cheney WH menu and soon Iraq(even though most 9/11 perps were from Saudi Arabia) was in the Bush/Cheney WH crosshairs.</p>
<p>The rest of the story is known well enough.</p>
<p>The Democrats in Congress as opposition party? Sound of crickets……..</p>
<p>So now after 2006 elections the DEMs gained…after 2008 elections they took over both parts of Congress and took back the WH as well.</p>
<p>So now here in the summer of 2009 this Democratic Party cannot give us a reset version of the VA,Medicare and Social Security–call it Universal Single Payer HealthCare–and get it moved into place and done. </p>
<p>Why is this so?</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scarecrow’s Seminal Diary, promoted here!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6723&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Did NYT Do a Puff Piece on Finance Members Holding Up Health Reform?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarecrow’s Seminal Diary, promoted here!<br /><a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6723" rel="nofollow">Why Did NYT Do a Puff Piece on Finance Members Holding Up Health Reform?</a></p>
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		<title>By: bgrothus</title>
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		<dc:creator>bgrothus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PW, I am seriously considering making the drive to Montana for this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was looking at the interactive map of top/main insurance companies by state earlier today.  I noticed that Montana has two companies in the most widely disparate percentages of any state I looked at:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BCBS 75%&lt;br /&gt;
some other company 10%&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other words, they say there are two companies in MT, but really, BCBS is the one on top.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other states I checked, the gap between the top two was much less.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PW, I am seriously considering making the drive to Montana for this.</p>
<p>I was looking at the interactive map of top/main insurance companies by state earlier today.  I noticed that Montana has two companies in the most widely disparate percentages of any state I looked at:</p>
<p>BCBS 75%<br />
some other company 10%</p>
<p>In other words, they say there are two companies in MT, but really, BCBS is the one on top.</p>
<p>In other states I checked, the gap between the top two was much less.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, if any of you feel like visiting Big Bucks Baucus and saying hello, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.actblue.com/page/ranch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he’ll be at a Jon Tester fundraiser early next month&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;U.S. Senator Max Baucus &amp; U.S. Senator Jon Tester&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Invite you to join them for the&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2009 Sieben Ranch Barbecue &amp; Hoedown&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;North of Helena, Montana&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A benefit for Senator Jon Tester &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Saturday…August 8, 2009…5:30PM&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Delicious Barbecue…Montana Brews &amp; Wine&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Live Country Music by Shodown&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TICKETS COST - $50 per person, CHILDREN under 12 are free&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sign on as a 2009 Sieben Ranch Party Sponsor &amp; receive tickets to attend the Sponsors’ Reception&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Held at 4:30PM on August 8th in Helena, MT&lt;/p&gt;
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Receive 5 Sponsors’ Reception tickets &amp; receive 10 tickets to the Hoedown &lt;/p&gt;
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Receive 2 Sponsors’ Reception tickets &amp; receive 5 tickets to the Hoedown&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reserve your tickets today!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
406.442.6035…siebenranch2009@gmail.com&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, if any of you feel like visiting Big Bucks Baucus and saying hello, <a href="http://www.actblue.com/page/ranch" rel="nofollow">he’ll be at a Jon Tester fundraiser early next month</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>U.S. Senator Max Baucus &amp; U.S. Senator Jon Tester</p>
<p>Invite you to join them for the</p>
<p>2009 Sieben Ranch Barbecue &amp; Hoedown</p>
<p>North of Helena, Montana</p>
<p>A benefit for Senator Jon Tester </p>
<p>Saturday…August 8, 2009…5:30PM</p>
<p>Delicious Barbecue…Montana Brews &amp; Wine</p>
<p>Live Country Music by Shodown</p>
<p>TICKETS COST &#8211; $50 per person, CHILDREN under 12 are free</p>
<p>Sign on as a 2009 Sieben Ranch Party Sponsor &amp; receive tickets to attend the Sponsors’ Reception</p>
<p>Held at 4:30PM on August 8th in Helena, MT</p>
<p>Platinum Level Sponsorship –$1000 contribution</p>
<p>Receive 5 Sponsors’ Reception tickets &amp; receive 10 tickets to the Hoedown </p>
<p>Gold Level Sponsorship — $500 contribution</p>
<p>Receive 2 Sponsors’ Reception tickets &amp; receive 5 tickets to the Hoedown</p>
<p>Reserve your tickets today!</p>
<p>406.442.6035…siebenranch2009@gmail.com</p>
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		<title>By: nightheat</title>
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		<dc:creator>nightheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama was a huge mistake. I should stuck with Nader.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama was a huge mistake. I should stuck with Nader.</p>
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		<title>By: tbau</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;don’t know about that, but there’s no way obama’s chief of staff makes these kinds of moves/gestures without his approval.  so don’t allow rahm to be his firewall for what increasingly seems like obama’s preferences in the first place.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this is obama’s signature project, so he’d better get out in front and lead.  that starts by getting his house in order, and by leveling with the people about his true preferences (and moreover by fighting for them).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don’t know about that, but there’s no way obama’s chief of staff makes these kinds of moves/gestures without his approval.  so don’t allow rahm to be his firewall for what increasingly seems like obama’s preferences in the first place.  </p>
<p>this is obama’s signature project, so he’d better get out in front and lead.  that starts by getting his house in order, and by leveling with the people about his true preferences (and moreover by fighting for them).</p>
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