Comments on: Chellie Pingree Takes the Pledge — 12 Down, 28 to Go

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:27:19 +0000

Becca: Exactly. But there are some people out there who never got over the fact that their candidate (*coughHillarycough*) didn’t get the nomination and want to pretend that their candidate would have actually got single-payer passed by now, even though Blue Dog guys like Mike Ross of Arkansas clearly rejected SP from the get-go. (Question: If the Clintons are that all-powerful that they can pass single-payer where Obama couldn’t, why haven’t they reined in Mike Ross? If you think he hates the public option, guess what? He hates single payer even more.)

By: Becca

Becca — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:10:41 +0000

These ain’t crocodile tears. They’re the frustration of someone who, if the Republicans and Blue Dogs get their way, won’t see anything resembling affordable healthcare or insurance until I’m 65. Which is 19 years off.

This coming from a woman who lost one grandfather at 55, another at 63, both grandmothers in their late 60s, and a father at the age of 62 last year.

Besides, that 2013 thing is just one proposal for the public plan. The restrictions that prevent me from getting insurance due to my pre-existing conditions of migraines and hayfever allergies are banned almost immediately.

By: owlperson

owlperson — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:26:04 +0000

Wow–That is very interesting -You don’t want them to “hear the voices of the voters”– They either hear them now or Nov of ‘10—you obviously don’t have a lot of faith in the Members–Don’t you think they hear from lobbyist while they are in DC–

By: Mithras61

Mithras61 — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:58:28 +0000

No, it would be that we don’t want them to go back to their districts to only hear from the lobbyists on this measure, and out of concern for the thousands that will die and the hundreds of thousands who will loose coverage while they dawdle.

It’s much more difficult to reach them in their districts without a massive expenditure of funds (that we don’t have that the FIRE industries DO have), so we want them to tackle it before they stop hearing the voices of the voters and get their collective earful (or is that pocketful) from the insurance industry lobbyists.

By: owlperson

owlperson — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:38:36 +0000

Quick question –

If this Health Legislation is so good in August, why would it not be just as good in October ?–Would it be that you do not want members of the House to get back to their Districts and hear more directly from their voters–

By: rhone

rhone — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:10:50 +0000

Called all the House Energy and Commerce members who are “public option only” to ask they support Weiner’s single payer amendment on single payer. See all of them at: http://www.democrats.com/singl.....ittee-whip

All staffers said they would pass the message onto their congressperson EXCEPT Stupak whose staffers hung up on me. Peace. -RF.

By: bonkers

bonkers — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:04:34 +0000

Great points once again, but how can we miss you if you never go away?

By: mboutot

mboutot — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:59:45 +0000

The latest Gallup and Rasmussen has your 78% way down…it’s not even over 50% anymore; the people are beginning to see the disaster that the spending and the loss of freedom to their own healthcare as well as the added costs to them personally. This is Hillarycare’s cousin and will have the same fate–you can’t fix it. There is nothing that replaces the capitalist system.

By: Elliott

Elliott — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:55:32 +0000

Go Jane!

That weenie was too skeerd to diss Rush.

By: booyah

booyah — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:53:33 +0000

Jane actually posted that here a few days ago, fyi.